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Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Whether it's incompetence or cheating I'm not sure, it's getting ridiculous though, and the only thing you can guarantee about our games (now that we've defended set pieces well today) is that there's going to be a clear peno denied.

Come on then, which one of the usual is going to tell me that's not a peno? Did he not mean to stamp on him or push him over?
 
Viktor

Viktor

Bee Gees Fan Club member #00001
No idea how a group of people so incompetent get paid so much.

But when they're allowed to regulate themselves it's no surprise.
 
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Hector Salamanca

Youth Team
I think it reads a lot better if Forest lodge a complaint this week. Complaining after losing looks like whining, however complaining after a win reads better.

Not that it will make a difference, but it won't look like whining.

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Listen 'ere young man

Listen 'ere young man

Jack Burkitt
When the incident was playing out today, I thought ahh finally a straightforward decision for VAR to make in our favour. Then the Co commentator starts talking about, was it clear enough, did Williams make a meal of it, was he going too fast.

They kept showing the angle from behind the goal which wasn't clear, finally the angle from the other side again and at least they will call the referee to have another look.

Failure to do so was totally incomprehensible and makes VAR a complete lottery or worse a tool to aid certain sides.

I cannot think it is due to incompetence, the more and more it happens.

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Redemption

Redemption

Agenda Benda
Hector Salamanca said:
I think it reads a lot better if Forest lodge a complaint this week. Complaining after losing looks like whining, however complaining after a win reads better.

Not that it will make a difference, but it won't look like whining.

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It will make us look like bigger cry babies.

Even when they win, they'll say, still crying about the refs. Even when they win.
 
T

Timothy Pope

I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
Redemption said:
It will make us look like bigger cry babies.

Even when they win, they'll say, still crying about the refs. Even when they win.
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If we only complain when we lose - it’s just sore losers. Can’t win!
 
Chappers85

Chappers85

Can't Play Left-Back
This is a tricky one, because Williams was definitely fouled. He also dived though. That is not a natural reaction to your foot being stamped on (you either stop immediately, or hobble on then pull up or lose your footing then fall down). However, players are taught to go down now if there's contact otherwise you don't get the penalty. Nevertheless, I bet the VAR officials used that delay between contact and Neco going down as justification to uphold the refs decision. But then if Neco doesn't go down, the ref definitely doesn't give it and then VAR probably don't even look at it, or do then say the contact wasn't enough. But if the ref gave it, then VAR doesn't overturn it either. It's a Catch-22. Trouble is with these penalty decisions, the refs are too scared to make them for lower clubs and too scared not to make them for the big 6. VAR not only does everything it can to not overrule the ref, but has also made the refs worse making them indecisive thinking they have a safety net for their shitness.
 
Any Time Now

Any Time Now

Grenville Morris
Usually don't care for the victim mentality but it's hard to deny that decisions are going disproportionately against us. Officiating in this division is a joke, you do have to ask how the most competitive league in the world is in the hands of this bunch
 
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dr_horse

Geoff Thomas
Redemption said:
It will make us look like bigger cry babies.

Even when they win, they'll say, still crying about the refs. Even when they win.
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Don't know who "they" is or why you're bothered about them.

It's only because the winners / beneficiaries don't rock the boat that we have such a high level sport / rich business governed by the lowest quality of officiating I've seen in 30 years.



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Mr. Blonde

Mr. Blonde

Jack Burkitt
Chappers85 said:
This is a tricky one, because Williams was definitely fouled. He also dived though. That is not a natural reaction to your foot being stamped on (you either stop immediately, or hobble on then pull up or lose your footing then fall down). However, players are taught to go down now if there's contact otherwise you don't get the penalty. Nevertheless, I bet the VAR officials used that delay between contact and Neco going down as justification to uphold the refs decision. But then if Neco doesn't go down, the ref definitely doesn't give it and then VAR probably don't even look at it, or do then say the contact wasn't enough. But if the ref gave it, then VAR doesn't overturn it either. It's a Catch-22. Trouble is with these penalty decisions, the refs are too scared to make them for lower clubs and too scared not to make them for the big 6. VAR not only does everything it can to not overrule the ref, but has also made the refs worse making them indecisive thinking they have a safety net for their shitness.
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I see what you're saying but for me the ankle stamp was a foul and anything Neco does or doesn't do subsequently is irrelevant and doesn't change the fact it's a foul
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Chappers85 said:
This is a tricky one, because Williams was definitely fouled. He also dived though. That is not a natural reaction to your foot being stamped on (you either stop immediately, or hobble on then pull up or lose your footing then fall down). However, players are taught to go down now if there's contact otherwise you don't get the penalty. Nevertheless, I bet the VAR officials used that delay between contact and Neco going down as justification to uphold the refs decision. But then if Neco doesn't go down, the ref definitely doesn't give it and then VAR probably don't even look at it, or do then say the contact wasn't enough. But if the ref gave it, then VAR doesn't overturn it either. It's a Catch-22. Trouble is with these penalty decisions, the refs are too scared to make them for lower clubs and too scared not to make them for the big 6. VAR not only does everything it can to not overrule the ref, but has also made the refs worse making them indecisive thinking they have a safety net for their shitness.
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I refer you to Diogo Jota (Sky6 team) falling over several strides after not being touched at all against Newcastle.

Penalty.
 
Chappers85

Chappers85

Can't Play Left-Back
Mr. Blonde said:
I see what you're saying but for me the ankle stamp was a foul and anything Neco does or doesn't do subsequently is irrelevant and doesn't change the fact it's a foul
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I agree. But VAR will use anything to justify the on-field refs decision. It might as well not be there.
 
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witneyred

Viv Anderson
I get it, I hope the Clattenburg thing is BS.

The issue has been complaining after a loss, would a complaint from a win be beneficial?.doubtful.

However look at the amount of complaints from numerous teams including West Ham today.

E was a homer
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Chappers85 said:
This is a tricky one, because Williams was definitely fouled. He also dived though.
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If he still played for the scousers, that would be called „being clever“.
 
adam09

adam09

Super Koopa
I'm interested to know how you can stop immediately when you're sprinting down a football pitch let alone when someone stands on your foot.

Maybe he could have put his left foot down? It's also possible the foul impacted his running stride looking at the replay. Either way, it was a foul and studs on your foot like that hurts.
 
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