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JonnoSnr

Youth Team
More fool Nuno then, if we're conceding goals every single week from set pieces and you have a supposed set piece specialist on the payroll and you choose not to use him then you deserve everything you get.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
More fool Nuno then, if we're conceding goals every single week from set pieces and you have a supposed set piece specialist on the payroll and you choose not to use him then you deserve everything you get.
The question is, is he Cooper's mate who was coaching kids in the England setup or is he a genuine specialist set piece coach?

If he has no expertise in that area you can see why Nuno isn't using him
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
The question is, is he Cooper's mate who was coaching kids in the England setup or is he a genuine specialist set piece coach?

If he has no expertise in that area you can see why Nuno isn't using him

if that really is the case then Marinakis is the idiot for hiring someone completely unsuited to the job because the guy he was itching to sack suggested him.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
For what it's worth I don't think we'll be able to address our set piece issues just with better coaching. The reality is we have a very small side and get dominated aerially by physical opponents.

Aina, Murillo, Williams, Dominguez, Montiel, Hudson Odoi, Elanga, Toffolo, Danilo are all under 6 foot. Even our "taller" players you perhaps wouldn't describe as physical: Niakhate, Felipe, Wood, Sangare.

We've only really got a handful of players who have a combination of height, strength, aggression and reading of the game to win aerial challenges: Boly, Kouyate, MGW and Yates.

One of them won't play for us again and the remaining three don't really stand-out as aerial threats when you compare them to what other teams have.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
For what it's worth I don't think we'll be able to address our set piece issues just with better coaching. The reality is we have a very small side and get dominated aerially by physical opponents.

Aina, Murillo, Williams, Dominguez, Montiel, Hudson Odoi, Elanga, Toffolo, Danilo are all under 6 foot. Even our "taller" players you perhaps wouldn't describe as physical: Niakhate, Felipe, Wood, Sangare.

We've only really got a handful of players who have a combination of height, strength, aggression and reading of the game to win aerial challenges: Boly, Kouyate, MGW and Yates.

One of them won't play for us again and the remaining three don't really stand-out as aerial threats when you compare them to what other teams have.
Morgan is only 171 though I guess he fits some of the other categories and wins a fair amount in the air. Like the header on Saturday.

We don't have a lot of height/strength combined in players though (aside from Boly and Yates) and that's why a lot of sides mismatch with us at corners.

One for them to look at I guess when looking for replacements if/when Boly and Murillo move on, considering Niakhate is the next one up, and as you say he isn't aerially dominant either.
 

JonnoSnr

Youth Team
For what it's worth I don't think we'll be able to address our set piece issues just with better coaching. The reality is we have a very small side and get dominated aerially by physical opponents.

Aina, Murillo, Williams, Dominguez, Montiel, Hudson Odoi, Elanga, Toffolo, Danilo are all under 6 foot. Even our "taller" players you perhaps wouldn't describe as physical: Niakhate, Felipe, Wood, Sangare.

We've only really got a handful of players who have a combination of height, strength, aggression and reading of the game to win aerial challenges: Boly, Kouyate, MGW and Yates.

One of them won't play for us again and the remaining three don't really stand-out as aerial threats when you compare them to what other teams have.
For me winning a header is as much about will and spring than pure height. Obviously being a beanpole helps but last season we had Wood who somehow jumped and got smaller and Aurier who looked like he jump up and head the crossbar if he wanted to.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
For me winning a header is as much about will and spring than pure height. Obviously being a beanpole helps but last season we had Wood who somehow jumped and got smaller and Aurier who looked like he jump up and head the crossbar if he wanted to.

That's why I included MGW in my list of players who might win a header and deliberately omitted the 6'3 Sangare.
 

Templeton

First Team Squad
Trying to fix our set pieces just show a complete lack of interest and desire from everyone at the club. We've been poor defensively all season so what do we do, try nothing different. What would be the harm if we said we are going to try man marking for a game, or try a different set up for zonal marking. It's the same with our attacking set pieces. It should have been blindingly obvious to Nuno within a couple of games that MGW is poor at this, so why did it take months before trying something different.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
It is both maddening and stupid, in equal measure, that Forest are so abysmally bad at set pieces at both ends of the pitch.

And that nothing has been done about it, is extremely frustrating.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
Trying to fix our set pieces just show a complete lack of interest and desire from everyone at the club. We've been poor defensively all season so what do we do, try nothing different. What would be the harm if we said we are going to try man marking for a game, or try a different set up for zonal marking. It's the same with our attacking set pieces. It should have been blindingly obvious to Nuno within a couple of games that MGW is poor at this, so why did it take months before trying something different.
I can't understand it either. We've all being saying on here for months if not longer that MGW should be nowhere near corners.

On defending I made a post the other day about it going back to basics with man marking, someone on each post and one protecting Sels. The setup was actually good from the one we conceeded at the weekend though but Wood inexplicably turned his back on it
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Id need to watch it back but I thought the corner on Saturday came from some 'clever' play on MGW (and possibly Aina too) who was on their big man who headed into the six yard box, but was taken out by a player diving into the two of them to free up bloke for header - could be wrong but I thought Wood was wrong sided of that player as he was originally tracking the guy who charged into MGW and Aina.
 
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results .....

Vs

Practice makes perfect.

Do we practice different things over and over?
Should we stop practicing?

Their brains must be scrambled.
 
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