Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24105809
Said this on Saturday, if it's a blatant attempt then get the twats off.
Said this on Saturday, if it's a blatant attempt then get the twats off.
Send 'em off !
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Trickie Trees
Stuart Pearce
Yep. Would soon stop them doing it.
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winnits
Guest
I'd agree. The authorities have bottled dealing with this kind of thing for long enough.
DanR
Steve Chettle
Holloway is right about this. He's wrong about it costing them a point and that might be the point which relegates them though. They will be down by Valentines Day.
BloodyHell
Jack Armstrong
Not as wrong as you thinking he was the one who said that :nowink:
As long as they get thirteen points or more, I'm not concerned!
Barbus
Steve Chettle
It's not enough to say send them off, because by the very nature of the act referees don't always spot the dive.
Retrospective video evidence should be used, and those found guilty should face meaningful suspensions.
The problem at the moment is the potential reward versus potential punishment (a penalty or a yellow card - or even no punishment at all) makes it far too tempting to dive.
If we can't trust players to have some sort of integrity and trust them not to cheat - and obviously we can't - we have to make it simply not worth it.
Retrospective video evidence should be used, and those found guilty should face meaningful suspensions.
The problem at the moment is the potential reward versus potential punishment (a penalty or a yellow card - or even no punishment at all) makes it far too tempting to dive.
If we can't trust players to have some sort of integrity and trust them not to cheat - and obviously we can't - we have to make it simply not worth it.
Trickie Trees
Stuart Pearce
Pitch side tazers for the worst offenders. Suarez in particular.
Alexandro Garibaldi
Bang Bang
And what happens when someone is sent off for 'diving' and it turns out they were genuinely fouled a la Danny Welbeck?
Retrospective punishments are the only ones that are remotely feasible and even then you'll have a hard time proving what a player was intending at the time.
Retrospective punishments are the only ones that are remotely feasible and even then you'll have a hard time proving what a player was intending at the time.
adam09
Super Koopa
Would rather see the blatant fouling at corners sorted out first
Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
When it's blatant it's blatant.
When ya loyal ya loyal.
Referees will rarely get it wrong when "it's in ya face", when they actually rarely do then the whole football industry and the press included should stand squarely behind them, even the offending club. Cloughie would.
I would ban the player for an entire season, no matter who he is. Right is right, Stamp the f***** out.
When ya loyal ya loyal.
Referees will rarely get it wrong when "it's in ya face", when they actually rarely do then the whole football industry and the press included should stand squarely behind them, even the offending club. Cloughie would.
I would ban the player for an entire season, no matter who he is. Right is right, Stamp the f***** out.
Borrow a rule from Rugby Union - allow players to be cited, and evidence reviewed, by an independent commissioner after the match.
If a player is guilty of a dive, then a one-match ban.
Simple.
Square Peg
First Team Squad
Only in England is this viewed as cheating. It must be a cultural thing.
On the continent it's viewed as clever play.... The anger is never aimed at the offending player, but at the referee for failing to spot the offence
On the continent it's viewed as clever play.... The anger is never aimed at the offending player, but at the referee for failing to spot the offence
Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
That's why we're the greatest country in the world. Values, decency, fair play, justice....
Mind ya, that's why we never win owt.
Senior Flange Technician
Andy!
Hows about if you are retrospectively called up for diving then you cannot be given a free kick in the next match, even if it's a clear waist high kung fu scissor leg breaking snap.
adam09
Super Koopa
I do remember seeing an interview with a Spanish or South American player and he basically said diving and trying to win fouls is part of the game and completely acceptable. I think it was in the aftermath of the Eduardo incident.
Senior Flange Technician
Andy!
Alexi lalas has just said the same on twitter. Should be applauded if dobe correctly. WTF!
adam09
Super Koopa
Well luckily it is against the laws so it's unacceptable whether they like it or not!
Army
Geoff Thomas
You cant send a player off as refs get it wrong and it is very hard to call. Retrospective punishment makes sense. I think it is too tempting to dive and try and earn a free kick, not sure if match bans are the way forward, although I do think it would stop players doing it and cant really think up another alternative...
Senior Flange Technician
Andy!
Will they look at the countless dives by fullback s running the ball towards their goal line too. That really annoys me.
adam09
Super Koopa
Chris Gunter would be f**ked
Tony Woodcock's LoveChild
Now what?
Retrospective punishment in the form of chemical castration. Do it again then they get full on eunuch treatment.
Senior Flange Technician
Andy!
Square Peg
First Team Squad
But what makes this "crime" anymore worthy of retrospective punishment than other incidents the referee has failed to call correctly?
Square Peg
First Team Squad
Think it was Guillam Balegue (spell check) on Sky Sports if its the one I'm thinking of.