Hmm.Both Maranakis-boot-lickers and critical thinkers are free to do as they please and should feel no animosity from the other side.
Hmm.Both Maranakis-boot-lickers and critical thinkers are free to do as they please and should feel no animosity from the other side.
Ωστόσο, σκέφτηκα ότι άξιζε έναν γρήγορο έλεγχο.Το να περιμένουν ο ιστότοπός τους να έχει λεπτομέρειες ήταν μια μάλλον φιλόδοξη προσδοκία
Το να περιμένουν ο ιστότοπός τους να έχει λεπτομέρειες ήταν μια μάλλον φιλόδοξη προσδοκία
Ωστόσο, σκέφτηκα ότι άξιζε έναν γρήγορο έλεγχο.
Surely an IT Whizz like yourself has heard of Google Translate, Bonfy? ΦΙΛΟΔΟΞΙΑ!
To be fair when I open my yap, with my ever so slight northern accent people just hearSurely an IT Whizz like yourself has heard of Google Translate, Bonfy? ΦΙΛΟΔΟΞΙΑ!
They don’t care about the average punter. No Premier League club does.I can only imagine the deluded corporate-speak that went into justifying this decision in the boardroom.
It's remarkable that they don't realise that the 'experience' they're selling won't really be there if they price out the average punter from going to games - you know, the ones who make the noise.
Might as well start a campaign to realign people's pay with House Prices for all the good that would do.I’d rather we spent our energy protesting gross player wages and start a campaign to make football less pricey for owners as well as fans.
”Fan“ is so old fashioned.They don’t care about the average punter. No Premier League club does.
They just want to pull the highest possible revenue out of every single seat, and instead of selling that seat at a pro-rata rate via a season ticket, they assume they can make more revenue from the modern-era „fan“ who is likely to spend additional money in the club shop and pony-up for the regurgitated slop they pass off as food, and the disgusting piss that passes for beer, at the City Ground.
You might have held a Season Ticket since the era of Mr. Clough, but in modern football, you’re simply classed as a „legacy fan“ and way down the list in importance when judged again those gullible recent converts to the Premier League who can be bilked for cash, every other week.
I've literally just said no other club relies on an atmosphere like this club. A "crutch" is metaphor suggesting the fans are needed to allow the team to function in this league. Apologies - I thought that was self-explanatory as this ideology has been mooted widely within the fan base.
Both Maranakis-boot-lickers and critical thinkers are free to do as they please and should feel no animosity from the other side.
No the owner is with his consumer price plan.I understand what a crutch is - and what happens if you take a crutch away? - you fall over.
Is that what you are advocating?
This needs including into your signature mateΦΙΛΟΔΟΞΙΑ!
No - the owner, rightly or wrongly, is trying to align the clubs business model and revenues with 'our' competition.No the owner is with his consumer price plan.
Nail on the head. Which is why I think talk of protesting to get rid of EM is futile. Even if it eventually worked, the chances we’d end up with anyone better are very, very slim. And there’s a good chance they might be a lot worse. 777 anyone? Venky’s? A.N. Other group of ultra-efficient group of asset strippers? Maybe an oil-rich nation state with medieval attitudes to human rights?They don’t care about the average punter. No Premier League club does.
Exactly. Any talk of protest should be directed at the root cause of commercialisation and commodification of football in England - the Premier league and the FA. Forest raising the ticket prices is a symptom of a wider problem not the root cause.I’d rather we spent our energy protesting gross player wages and start a campaign to make football less pricey for owners as well as fans.
The players were not consulted over the financial decisions made by the owner/Board of directors.
To withdraw our vocal support is slapping the faces of the wrong people.
Even if I am the only one stood, scarf aloft pre-kick-off for each half, I will be stood belting out MOK, and voicing my support for good play, sighing at bad play, giving the incompetent officials an ear bashing, and barracking the opposition players at every opportunity.
Of the 2 meaningful protests from us fans, one would be would be to cut-off our noses by not renewing season tickets en-masse.
The other is to boycott the merchandise shop and refuse to pay the rip-off prices for anything in there.
However the Club has to a certain extinct spiked our guns in regard to the first option, by having a waiting list of multiple thousands of saps who will take the place of the current ST holders.
As to the merchandise shop: Larry Lloyd 'em!!!
Edit: there is a 3rd option: no one take a "hospitality package", no-one pay to go on a museum tour, no one purchase food on the concourses or in the club's restaurants. Everyone to partake of pre-match victuals from the cob shop, the chip shop, even 'Spoons!
It is done.This needs including into your signature mate
That’s kind of my point though Cloughie, I am one of those fans but to go I have to pay the types of sums that some are talking about not singing MoK for. There was no protest for the members, I just had to make my choice of if I wanted it at the price stipulated. It’s likely next year match day tickets will increase again but it’s still then down to me to decide.Agreed-but it’s disappointing that some long term fans (who supported us in League 1 and numerous Championship relegation struggles) will probably be priced out of going to see
the team they love.
Exactly I cant stand higher ticket prices of course and I do sympathise with the situation. However these things will never get better unless we actually solve the root cause instead of complaining about the sypmtoms. Problem is for owner you have fans moaning why you arent competitive and than moan about prices. Its a no win situation and people are accusing the ownership of greed. Which in itself in laughable as football owners dont make profits. Maranakis as I have said has lost far more money on Forest than any of us. Than we have PSR... which means in order to compete we have to generate our own income. What a horrible sitiuation for an owner to be in.Nail on the head. Which is why I think talk of protesting to get rid of EM is futile. Even if it eventually worked, the chances we’d end up with anyone better are very, very slim. And there’s a good chance they might be a lot worse. 777 anyone? Venky’s? A.N. Other group of ultra-efficient group of asset strippers? Maybe an oil-rich nation state with medieval attitudes to human rights?
Before anyone pipes up with Tony Bloom at Brighton or whatever the nerd at Brentford is called, if these individuals existed for Forest they’d probably already have stepped up. You could even argue our equivalent was Nigel Doughty and it didn’t work out too well for him. Or us for that matter.
Exactly. Any talk of protest should be directed at the root cause of commercialisation and commodification of football in England - the Premier league and the FA. Forest raising the ticket prices is a symptom of a wider problem not the root cause.
None of this makes me a "simp" or a "bootlicker" for the current ownership and those labelling people as such are just giving me an excuse to ignore their point of view. When actually, you know, we might agree on a lot of things. We're all annoyed that we signed Jonjo Shelvey for a start.
The owner wastes 10s of millions of £s each season on players that don't or rarely feature and has failed FFP as a consequence. If he could tackle his player losses before squeezing fans then I assume most would be more accepting. However, he won't as it has been his Modus Operandi each season minus the Cooper promotion season under Murphy.No - the owner, rightly or wrongly, is trying to align the clubs business model and revenues with 'our' competition.
It is you that is suggesting that as a way of protest, we should stop supporting the team
Sorry, but define ‘new fans’….presumably fans that have followed Forest for years and didn’t have a ST the year we went up and were locked out don’t count?Out price a load of fans that have gone for years. Get at a load of new fans in. Get relegated.....................oh f***
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