Yossarian
Viv Anderson
Should be starting soon, if he's not better at left back than Colback then he won't be here long.
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Richmond Mamah Laryea
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congo_red_49
Ale Ape
Definitely needs to be unleashed on Peterborough. Their wing-backs have been crap all season, so nice easy start for him.
Fawazzock
Jack Burkitt
This is great
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
You would have to think so.
There certainly isn't the definite possibility we will be signing Spence or Lowe when their loans finish. In Spence's case, there's every chance he will leave Boro and go to a top PL club.
Laryea (and Panzo) is our player and unless we decide to sell he will be here next season.
The plan surely can't be to keep using Colback as FB cover, and the Bong will have blown out by then as well, so surely we would be looking at either a new signing or either of these lads to play there next season.
RB could be an issue as well as I think in the Boro match when Spence couldn't play (which I think is the only time he hasn't) we had to play Back who's still really quite young.
You'd hope Cooper is aware of this and has a plan already, he usually seems to.
Canadian_red
Grenville Morris
Drops the F bomb on live tv, then remembers he's Canadian and apologises. Good lad.
Looking forward to seeing how they do against better opposition. Amazing story and excited to see how the country gets behind them when the tournament actually happens.
Should point out that the Canadian women's team have been one of the best for a while.
Looking forward to seeing how they do against better opposition. Amazing story and excited to see how the country gets behind them when the tournament actually happens.
Should point out that the Canadian women's team have been one of the best for a while.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
I doubt spence will go from a loan spell with Forest to a "top Premiership club".
He is only 21, and this is his first decent spell playing first team football.
He has pace, and quick feet.
But has he got the real something to emmulate Alexander Arnold at Liverpool?
I think he has had a difficult few years until he came to Forest.
The player himself will have a big say as to where he wants to go.
And I reckon he easily wind up signing for Forest, and I doubt he will command the sort of transfer fee the "let's hype everything up to the heavens" media are talking about.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
It's a big step but he's a talented player. I think Warnock said he loaned him because of his attitude not because of his talent, and he's still really young so maybe he thought Spence needed to grow up a bit or was just in the wrong place.
Some of it is probably media hype but the likes of Arsenal, Spurs, etc have apparently been keeping tabs on him. You'd suggest that maybe 1. if he did go to one of those clubs it would be because of his potential 2. that he would probably be cover at first
But he is good enough, the cup games showed this, and still only 21 so it could still happen if they are interested in him.
Although as you rightly say a lot rests with the player. If he has the choice in the summer between say signing for Forest where he played last season and did well and was liked, and would be in the team again next, or signing for someone like Spurs, being a reserve and probably loaned out a few times, might get in the team eventually... not sure what he'd pick. Sure thing the draw of being somewhere where you're happy is one thing but the draw of a big move for big money is another, and that Spurs move might never happen if you sign for Forest.
Garner turned down other clubs as he apparently only wanted to come to us again but, he was already under contract to ManU and presumably knew he'd be coming back.
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
This is what Warnock said about Spence when he came to us on loan.
Because Spence had such an impact right from the start, you have to question Warnock's ability in man-management or his expertise in coaching or in his skill at spotting talent. He is the same player that Boro had, they just chose, for whatever reason, to overlook him.
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Because Spence had such an impact right from the start, you have to question Warnock's ability in man-management or his expertise in coaching or in his skill at spotting talent. He is the same player that Boro had, they just chose, for whatever reason, to overlook him.
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Statto
Free Kick Specialist
In all honesty we have no idea.
But it does look to me that Warnock, for whatever reason, knew he was talented, but couldn't work with him at all, and they couldn't resolve that issue.
It's not always repairable, and Warnock is probably one of the better man managers in the game (you have to be to work on a shoestring) so it's possible it just wasn't a clash between the two.
Maybe Djed (who's from London and was initially at Fulham) couldn't settle in the area (well, it is a shit hole) and just being away from there made the difference. Or maybe he had some questionable friends who he is now away from? I guess unless he says we won't know.
But it does look to me that Warnock, for whatever reason, knew he was talented, but couldn't work with him at all, and they couldn't resolve that issue.
It's not always repairable, and Warnock is probably one of the better man managers in the game (you have to be to work on a shoestring) so it's possible it just wasn't a clash between the two.
Maybe Djed (who's from London and was initially at Fulham) couldn't settle in the area (well, it is a shit hole) and just being away from there made the difference. Or maybe he had some questionable friends who he is now away from? I guess unless he says we won't know.
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
I've always found it a strange one where Warnock didn't fancy Spence.
It seems like he was singling out Spence for his attitude and application.
Maybe it was a good move from Warnock to get the best out of Spence, or a wrong move.
It seems like he was singling out Spence for his attitude and application.
Maybe it was a good move from Warnock to get the best out of Spence, or a wrong move.
HBB
Jack Burkitt
Or it could be that he didn't respond to Warnock's - shall we say - more old style management technique. Sometimes you're just not on the same wavelength on someone no matter how you try
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
When I was flying as cabin crew with BOAC and BA we used to do trips of varying lengths, quite often you would be thrown together with 4 or 5 others for three week trips and we were a tight happy bunch on the whole.
But as I got older I found that the youngsters were just not seeing things the same way I did, so I left.
The point made about Djed and Warnock not seeing eye to eye seems, to me, very likely, just a generational thing. I'm sure Colin would have noticed and appreciated his athleticism and ability, but his attitude possibly jarred.
But as I got older I found that the youngsters were just not seeing things the same way I did, so I left.
The point made about Djed and Warnock not seeing eye to eye seems, to me, very likely, just a generational thing. I'm sure Colin would have noticed and appreciated his athleticism and ability, but his attitude possibly jarred.
Every time you post this VP - which I absolutely love - I get this tune stuck in my head (because of the opening line):
https://youtu.be/nS5_EQgbuLc
Lee
Lurker of shadows
Lets not forget that Boro have someone just as good in Jones. I think it's just as good man-management to let a player go quite early if you know that it just won't work out, even if it is because of differing reasons. Rather than to hold onto him and end up destroying the player.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
By all accounts Mboro are suggesting their price tag on him is £20m, which is about £19.5m more than it was six months ago, so they'll be thinking this loan was a success, provided we don't go up at their expense.
cheapseats
Grenville Morris
I'm not so sure Captn. The name of the game these days is to "unearth" talent that others have overlooked and Spence would seem to fit that bill perfectly. He has fabulous attributes, in particular real pace and good close control that you can't coach now at this stage and hes done his "probation" here at Forest where hes shown he can knuckle down and get a full season at consistent levels under his belt.
I think Liverpool and City are beyond him but I could see a club like Arsenal and/or Spurs taking a punt on him. 20M is peanuts to them anyway.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
I dunno mate, you watch Spence one and you see why Warnock wouldn't have liked him.
He takes too many risks for Warnock, he plays right back and takes on 3 players with no cover behind him.
Steve Cooper's wet dream, Neil Warnock's nightmare.
I doubt Hughton would have got much from Spence either.
eugenboppboppbopp
Jack Armstrong
He’ll be snapped up for around 20m by a Spurs kinda side and, if he keeps his head screwed on, that will just be a stepping stone.
He’s an incredible talent
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Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
If Adama Traore can play for Barca, Djed Spence can play for anyone.
To be honest, for me, he is capable of making the same sort of move Jude Bellingham did, when he went from Championship Birmingham City to Borussia Dortmund.
I have seen a lot of young Bellingham and he’s blossomed into a superb player.
Djed could go a similar way, I’d not be surprised if there weren’t Bundesliga sides looking at him because his sort of buccaneering attacking play would be prized there, given the focus on attacking football and the number of sides favouring attacking wing-backs.
I have seen a lot of young Bellingham and he’s blossomed into a superb player.
Djed could go a similar way, I’d not be surprised if there weren’t Bundesliga sides looking at him because his sort of buccaneering attacking play would be prized there, given the focus on attacking football and the number of sides favouring attacking wing-backs.
Master Yates
John Robertson
If Palace have got any sense they will be all over it. Mitchell, Guehi, Andersen and Spence can continue to improve for years.
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Master Yates
John Robertson
Apparently they were looking for 6m in the summer. I can see why we were negotiating, but in hindsight we should’ve snapped their arm off for that sort of clause.
Wait, this is the Laryea thread?!
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Mcbeth99
Grenville Morris
Apparently they were looking for 6m in the summer. I can see why we were negotiating, but in hindsight we should’ve snapped their arm off for that sort of clause.
Wait, this is the Laryea thread?!
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I presume we are talking about Laryea on the Spence thread?!!
Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.
Fulchester United
Two Weeks Away
First Team Squad
nice work