And consequently, money. Lots of money that can be fitted in to envelopes and posted to Switzerland.
Qatar s̶u̶m̶m̶e̶r winter world cup 2022
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And consequently, money. Lots of money that can be fitted in to envelopes and posted to Switzerland.
Rigler
Jack Burkitt
It's time like this that the forum really needs a like button.
Danga
Formerly JLingz
I agree, that is also a bag of wank idea.
DanR
Steve Chettle
Last time I checked Ryanair don't fly from East Midlands to Qatar, so I'll be giving this one a miss.
Rigler
Jack Burkitt
They don't fly to Australia either, so you'd have been no better off in that department if Qatar hadn't got it.
rogerthecat
Jack Burkitt
Should have gone to Australia for all the reasons given above. It would have been a winter World Cup by default then anyway
Ravi
Upper Decker
The last world cup was in the winter wasn't it? It just wasn't winter in Europe.
Personally I like the idea of it being moved to April/May as has been proposed. That would mean we'd have two matches a week in a condensed season. More football yeah.
Personally I like the idea of it being moved to April/May as has been proposed. That would mean we'd have two matches a week in a condensed season. More football yeah.
I don't think the WC will take place in Qatar at all. FIFA have realised they have made a big mistake, and are now, in the publics mind, just slightly less popular than bankers. The situation where many "serious" newspapers and other media around the world are openly discussing the "corruption" involved in awarding this WC is seriously worrying FIFA. The "winter world cup" is just the first throw of the dice. I suspect there will be several more instances of "moving the goal posts" before, probably in about 2016, awarding it to somewhere else.
Ricochet
Jack Burkitt
Think we should hold the 2026 World Cup in the Antarctic.
Like A Boss
A. Trialist
More positive press for it ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24282713
Barbus
Steve Chettle
The arguments about whether to play the World Cup in the summer or winter pale into insignificance compared to the appalling treatment of the workers building the stadiums and hotels for the World Cup.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/05/fifa-qatar-migrants-world-cup?CMP=twt_gu
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/05/fifa-qatar-migrants-world-cup?CMP=twt_gu
trent end loyal
Viv Anderson
Brazil looks like a bit of a car crash at the moment,and all those flavela places being right alongside so called decent neighbourhoods spell disaster for tourist types straying off the beaten track!
Ricochet
Jack Burkitt
Heard IF England reach the finals in brazil they won't be seeded as they are not ranked In the top 16,seventeenth at present.
Sorry about being pedantic but it's gas not oil. Have worked there many times
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Francis Benali (on loan)
Guest
Forty teams at the World Cup? European Championships with no host nation. WCs played at Christmas.
Platini could be an even worse option than Blatter....
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/24701131
Platini could be an even worse option than Blatter....
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/24701131
Fallon
Jack Burkitt
I like the idea of introducing 40 teams and expanding into places other than Europe. The World Cup always seems a bit like the Euros with a select few others (Brazil, Argentina etc). With a few more Asian, African and South/North American teams it could help them develop and get more people involved.
On the Winter World Cup, I guess I support the idea of moving it to a time when people won't die when they play/watch it, but I hate the idea of it f***ing up the normal season. I hate the fact that they've given the World Cup to a country that thinks it's a sin for a man to go to bed with another man even more. So it it were up to me I'd tell the Qataris to piss off and give it to somewhere civilised.
On the Winter World Cup, I guess I support the idea of moving it to a time when people won't die when they play/watch it, but I hate the idea of it f***ing up the normal season. I hate the fact that they've given the World Cup to a country that thinks it's a sin for a man to go to bed with another man even more. So it it were up to me I'd tell the Qataris to piss off and give it to somewhere civilised.
Tutts
Ian Bowyer
Expanding the World Cup is daft. It's supposed to be the pinnacle tournament with rthe best teams. Its not a bloody school sports day where everyone goes home with a medal.
Red Duster
Who will BooBaby boo?
I remember a World Cup a few dozen years ago that had two group stages. It was crazy, I don't know if they did that coz there were more that 32 teams there or if it was just a lark.
West Auckland Town from Durham reckon they won the first World Cup.
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Francis Benali (on loan)
Guest
Saturation. Moving from 24 to 32 made sense. Previously having 4 out of 6 of the 3rd place teams making it through the group almost made the 1st round a waste of time. 32 is a better number. With 32 teams, 50% of the teams go out each round. For the same reason 16 was the right number for the Euros. But Platini couldn't resist screwing that up.
I'm not against a winter world cup screwing up the domestic calendar. Bollocks to the PL. It's more that clearly there was no real planning into how a WC in Qatar would work, and so it couldn't not have been awarded on the strength of the bid. That's digusting. I think Australia are already well set up to host a fantastic WC in June/July.
A WC happens in the middle of the domestic season half the stars will also mean many of the stars will be missing due to imaginary injuries. With that WC following a European Champs that has been turned in one long drawn out glorified qualifying stage with no host nation, international football on could be on its deathbed by the end of 2022. Clubs would already like to see the end of it.
I'm not against a winter world cup screwing up the domestic calendar. Bollocks to the PL. It's more that clearly there was no real planning into how a WC in Qatar would work, and so it couldn't not have been awarded on the strength of the bid. That's digusting. I think Australia are already well set up to host a fantastic WC in June/July.
A WC happens in the middle of the domestic season half the stars will also mean many of the stars will be missing due to imaginary injuries. With that WC following a European Champs that has been turned in one long drawn out glorified qualifying stage with no host nation, international football on could be on its deathbed by the end of 2022. Clubs would already like to see the end of it.
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Barbus
Steve Chettle
Platini has suggested 40 teams though in response to Blatter's even more bonkers idea of reducing the number of European teams to make room for more from Asia and Africa.
We've already got a situation where highly ranked European countries don't qualify but no-hopers from the middle east or pacific get in just to be guaranteed group propper-uppers. Blatter would have even more teams like that taking places of teams who can actually give someone a game. Silly old twat.
We've already got a situation where highly ranked European countries don't qualify but no-hopers from the middle east or pacific get in just to be guaranteed group propper-uppers. Blatter would have even more teams like that taking places of teams who can actually give someone a game. Silly old twat.
Le Juif Rouge
Senior Mass Debater
Blatter stays in power because he keeps the numerous minor nations sweet.
It is time a rival to FIFA was formed which is club based.
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Francis Benali (on loan)
Guest
Oh hell, no.
Alexandro Garibaldi
Bang Bang
I think having 40 teams would make for a better World Cup. Yes, you would be inviting teams of lower quality to make up the quotas from Africa and Asia, but ultimately that would reap rewards. And having 8 more teams would mean an extra group game - the more games you have at group stages, the more likely the quality gets filtered through to the knockout rounds. We all like an unset, but the 2002 competition when defending champions France went out in the group stages and the semi-finals involved Turkey and South Korea and a poor German side reached the final was pretty bad. A longer group stage means good sides (and England!) will have more time to get into their stride and result in better games as the tournament goes on.
Also more nights with football on the telly! :cheers:
Also more nights with football on the telly! :cheers:
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Francis Benali (on loan)
Guest
Groups of five would really mess with the scheduling.
You are adding another 32 games to the first round which already take up a high percentage of the of the overall comp - 80 rather than 48 1st round games before the 32 knockout games.
With an uneven number of teams in each group, there will be bye days for each team with each wave of first round fixtures. No the only problem, but the worst thing about that they couldn't schedule all teams to play their last group game at the same time. So one team will be finished just sitting around watching the other four teams play their final game to see if they make it through. See Germany v Austria in 1982 for why that can't happen.
So then you would have to have 10 groups of 4 instead. Then how do you do the second round? Do you send home four of the second placed teams, eliminating sixty per cent of the competition in the first round? Because you can't keep all but 8 of the teams and have a round of 32 because then all four in some groups would be going through, and that really wouldn't be worth turning up for.
Does anybody running international football ever think how their ideas would work before they start making them public?
You are adding another 32 games to the first round which already take up a high percentage of the of the overall comp - 80 rather than 48 1st round games before the 32 knockout games.
With an uneven number of teams in each group, there will be bye days for each team with each wave of first round fixtures. No the only problem, but the worst thing about that they couldn't schedule all teams to play their last group game at the same time. So one team will be finished just sitting around watching the other four teams play their final game to see if they make it through. See Germany v Austria in 1982 for why that can't happen.
So then you would have to have 10 groups of 4 instead. Then how do you do the second round? Do you send home four of the second placed teams, eliminating sixty per cent of the competition in the first round? Because you can't keep all but 8 of the teams and have a round of 32 because then all four in some groups would be going through, and that really wouldn't be worth turning up for.
Does anybody running international football ever think how their ideas would work before they start making them public?
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