Great film that
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Premier League wages
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Great film that
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
THIS^^^
JordanForest
Jack Burkitt
With FFP this is very possible, will highlight the ridiculous gap between PL and championship payments, and how unfair it is that a relegated club can have £60m whereas others will have to abide by their relatively miniscule income.
With the new parachute payments, a team coming down will get the equivalent of four years of our turnover, plus their own turnover of course, and we are supposed to be able to compete with that?
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
It may be unfair, and £60m for what on You Tube would be billed as "Major Fail" is totally ridiculous, but that is the way of the world.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
FFP is an horrible cynical idea made for tight American owners who hate Chelsea and City! I dont see the problem with a chairman donation to a club as long as it is a donation and not a loan! Premier league wages will go down but all FFP will do will make sure Man U and Arsenal challenge all the time and Liverpool finish in the top four so Glazier, Kroenke and Henry can rub their hands count the dosh.
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UndisclosedFee
Guest
The parachute payments will barely make a dent in their losses if their wage bill is £70m+.
It's now nearer £100m in parachute payments, unless they get promoted at the first attempt.
It seems to me that any premier league team that has any chance of relegation needs to set a wage limit of turnover+annual parachute payment (minus running costs), with contracts no longer than the period of potential parachute payments. Anything else is financial suicide. Let's hope that QPR have committed financial suicide. Judging by comments about paying off players to get them off the wage bill, they aren't going to have much of a squad to compete at the top. Reading and A N Other will have a good chance though, assuming they keep the core of their squads, and their managers.
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UndisclosedFee
Guest
Championship FFP has nothing whatsoever to do with UEFA FFP. The Premier League has no financial fair play regulations at all.
Project Zeus
Steve Chettle
Lies! It's a conspiracy, I tells ya!
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
Yeah your right,what you mean about FFP not being in the prem? Ive been listening to journalists all week on Talksport about new regulations coming in next year? I am non versed in championship FFP so how is it different from UEFA FFP?
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UndisclosedFee
Guest
Well, it only applies to the football league, of which the Premier League is not a part. Loosely speaking, the rules that the football league clubs used as a starting point were the same as the ones which UEFA had already begun implementing, but the actual rules they wrote are their own, with some loopholes closed. UEFA FFP rules only apply to teams who play in a the Europa League and Champions League.
My apologies, been busy this week, and missed any talk on Premier League FFP rules coming in next year, which I now see that you are right about. However, that only means that there are now 3 totally unconnected sets of FFP rules.
Looking at the sanctions for the Championship (http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/FLExplainedDetail/0,,10794~2748246,00.html), unless QPR slash their wage bill, they could end up with a £30m fine, unless they go up the first season.
Alpha Fail
Jack Burkitt
Two solutions - don't buy Sky and don't go to games. Now, neither are a welcome option for those who really give a shit (and can afford to give a shit) but the horrible part of the unpleasant truth is that people will probably stop going to games before they bin their Sky.
Alpha Fail
Jack Burkitt
Like Blackburn, Wolves and Bolton?
Or Hull, or Boro or Blackpool?
There's more unlike Newcastle and West Ham than there is like them. These clubs come down and burn through their money and end up fiscally a bit better off after three seasons than before they went up.
It's a question of weight. There's a rather good chance teams will come back down then they go up nowadays so try and bolster the existing squad to prevent that but keep it steady, don't go mad. Then come down a stronger, better, more solid unit, grow the squad and the club gradually, go back up, again bank most of the money, come back down, gradually increase the overall solidity and strength of the club, after each relegation closer to nailed-on favourites for promotion again the next year. It's a much longer-term, slower and smoother project to grow a club now than is has been since the Premiership ruined everything. Weight the spending to the second or third season after promotion, wherever that may find you. Being QPR doesn't work.
Promotion now has changed from being like vaginal sex to being like anal sex. Previously you'd slide on up there, moving up and down and occasionally pushing all the way to the top, then one day when you're attempting a really hard push you find you've slipped out altogether and you have to get back in. Nowadays it's harder to get allowed in at all, and when you do you have to take it slowly, probing upwards gently lest you meet with firm resistance that sees you very quickly back out of contention. Once you are in there, you still have to be very cautious and not get overexcited because you know you'll probably be back out again sooner or later and once you are, it's best to be patient about getting back in or you might find yourself with little chance of ever doing so.
If you see what I mean...
oxonred
First Team Squad
I'm just pleased that Redknapp's dog didn't get the huge bonus for keeping them up...............I just can't stand Redknapp.
michael
Banned
Teams gamble too much on not being relegated its a farce
bhastings316
Grenville Morris
Worryingly I see exactly what you mean!
RichardKeysLovesLingard
First Team Squad
This has to be the best analogy used on this forum infact on any forum I've ever been on! Haha!
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
If we go up, we have to accept we'll be competiting in a mini league against five or six teams - Villa, Southampton, Norwich, the two promoted teams alongside us and potentially Sunderland (assuming Wigan go down and Newcastle don't have as an horrendous campaign next year).
Chances of relegation are more than 50/50, so I'd hope we set our expectations as such. Rather than worry about trying to stave off relegation by the skin of our teeth and throwing silly money at it, just assume we'll go down and assemble a squad over the course of the season which will ready for a promotion push the following season. Look at young players with a bright future who are perhaps not quite ready to walk into a Premier league team and blood them - they'll come to us if no one else gives them the chance. Make it a long term approach, use the extra money to fill positions we currently lack in like wingers and a goalkeeper, again, thinking long term.
Use the money to invest in facilities, put further money into the youth academy. Build up a foundation beyond the first eleven which will give us a better footing than our immediate rivals (in stature sense rather than local) for the long run.
Teams that have done this? Swansea.
Teams that haven't? QPR.
We shouldn't worry about relegation from the Premier League if we ever get there. We've been outside that league for over a decade - if we ever make it back we have to make sure the extra revenue is spent ensuring the long term stability and progress of the club, not a one or two year blowout of cash.
If we go up this season, I hope next season our starting eleven is something along the lines of:
New GK, Halford, New CB, New CB, Cohen, Lansbury, Guedioura, Majewski, New LM, Cox, Sharp.
Chances of relegation are more than 50/50, so I'd hope we set our expectations as such. Rather than worry about trying to stave off relegation by the skin of our teeth and throwing silly money at it, just assume we'll go down and assemble a squad over the course of the season which will ready for a promotion push the following season. Look at young players with a bright future who are perhaps not quite ready to walk into a Premier league team and blood them - they'll come to us if no one else gives them the chance. Make it a long term approach, use the extra money to fill positions we currently lack in like wingers and a goalkeeper, again, thinking long term.
Use the money to invest in facilities, put further money into the youth academy. Build up a foundation beyond the first eleven which will give us a better footing than our immediate rivals (in stature sense rather than local) for the long run.
Teams that have done this? Swansea.
Teams that haven't? QPR.
We shouldn't worry about relegation from the Premier League if we ever get there. We've been outside that league for over a decade - if we ever make it back we have to make sure the extra revenue is spent ensuring the long term stability and progress of the club, not a one or two year blowout of cash.
If we go up this season, I hope next season our starting eleven is something along the lines of:
New GK, Halford, New CB, New CB, Cohen, Lansbury, Guedioura, Majewski, New LM, Cox, Sharp.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
100% Bangleroy on the money.
Lets concentrate on building a Premiership team whatever way our resources will allow. Where we are for a year or two is pretty irrelevant to that as a Prem team will see us go up, stay up or both.
rogerthecat
Jack Burkitt
Harry Rednapp managed Club ends up screwed over financially..................
Who'd of predicted that, eh?
Who'd of predicted that, eh?