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Premier League wages

OLDMANRED

Jack Burkitt
Just seen Q P R wage bill. £73.78 million for the season. If we were to go up could we survive without going down the same route.
 

GOBIAS

Ian Bowyer
Just seen Q P R wage bill. £73.78 million for the season. If we were to go up could we survive without going down the same route.

Take premier league money away and their turnover can't be more than about £12m. They are an absolute disgrace of a club now.
 

bhastings316

Grenville Morris
I would be horrified if we started paying an average centre back like Chris Samba £120K a week!

Yes you have to improve your squad and bring in better players but clubs like Swansea and Norwich seem to have done it sensibly. QPR are a disgrace but they'll probably piss all over the Championship next season, they need to anyway.
 

DapperDan

Steve Chettle
I would be horrified if we started paying an average centre back like Chris Samba £120K a week!

Yes you have to improve your squad and bring in better players but clubs like Swansea and Norwich seem to have done it sensibly. QPR are a disgrace but they'll probably piss all over the Championship next season, they need to anyway.

I think that they will implode, the next Portsmouth.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
I think that they will implode, the next Portsmouth.

It's possible. Fernandes has already had to bring in £15m of extra financing from external sources and the value of the club has plummeted with their relegation.

Another Portsmouth is a possibility although the "example" of Leeds is perhaps a more relevant one of a club financially over-reaching themselves leading to a fire-sale of players and relegation.
 

Glen's Biggest Fan

Viv Anderson
I can't see many clubs wanting queuing up to try and get some of those flops, the only player I can really see going is Remy. The next Portsmouth might not be far off depending on how deep the owners pockets are willing to go.
 

Beasty

Rice 34
It's hard to feel angry at Fernandes though, just seems like a good guy but has been incredibly naive and didn't seem to learn his lessons, window after window.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
It's hard to feel angry at Fernandes though, just seems like a good guy but has been incredibly naive and didn't seem to learn his lessons, window after window.

In Hughes and Redknapp, he does seem to have been a bit mugged by two of the worst wastrels of managers there are!
 

bhastings316

Grenville Morris
I can't see many clubs wanting queuing up to try and get some of those flops, the only player I can really see going is Remy. The next Portsmouth might not be far off depending on how deep the owners pockets are willing to go.

Remy really is outstanding. God knows how he ended up at QPR, he should've had a move to a top European club. I reckon his agent needs the boot.

Can't see players like Samba, Bosingwa, Zamora etc. wanting to play in the Championship but then takers for these no-hopers will be few and far between.
 

Ravi

Upper Decker
It will be interesting to see whether The Bankrupter sticks around as their manager next season.
 

Frank Clark’s Tash

Jack Burkitt
Players earning batshit mental money won't be going anywhere. No one is going to offer these failed donkeys anything like what they are being paid by QPR. None of them will have joined the club for footballing reasons so you can bet your bottom dollar that the vast majority will be happy to see out their contracts and rake in the cash.

It's reminiscent of that Portsmouth player that demanded his wages in full and nearly bankrupted the club.

I for one will be laughing all the way to the BPS with them though. Serves them right for cheating their way to the Premier League in the first place, with their dodgy player registrations that the FA just turned a blind eye to.
 

Art

Viv Anderson
Remy really is outstanding. God knows how he ended up at QPR, he should've had a move to a top European club. I reckon his agent needs the boot.

He's got a relegation release clause hasn't he? So the agent gets a second huge wedge inside 6 months or so. Top work :yarr!:
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
It's possible. Fernandes has already had to bring in £15m of extra financing from external sources and the value of the club has plummeted with their relegation.

Another Portsmouth is a possibility although the "example" of Leeds is perhaps a more relevant one of a club financially over-reaching themselves leading to a fire-sale of players and relegation.

No - they will really go for it next season (can't afford not to)... I expect to see them make a couple of stellar signings.
It seems to be the new world way.
A Championship club that has been there for a few seasons, or that has come up cannot afford or attract a Premiership squad.
A Premiership side coming down has such mega and first year loaded parachute payments they can add to their Premiership squad and so return to the top flight at the first attempt.
If they don't they then face either financial ruin or have to dismantle their squad and then become another Championship side that can't afford or attract Prem players...
It will become increasingly polarised I think.
 

Hoax

Grenville Morris
No sympathy here. It was obvious from the seaosn they went up that they were doomed. Its not like they have been run like shit for a year its been going on for years.
 

nffc13

Jack Burkitt
Hope they implode, it depends how they go about things in the summer.

Don't want Wigan to come down, because they'd keep their players and philosophy and storm the league.

Reading will be strong too.
 

OLDMANRED

Jack Burkitt
Now reading the news about John Thompson it really is time the obscene money about in football is shared out more. Pipe dream i know.
 

Carvel

Grenville Morris
QPR are the only exception to the rule that spending big on wages doesn't equal success. They have just had a bad approach to it. Every other team is about where they should be in the league with regards to how much they spend on wages. The wage table would read pretty much the same as the league table.

Which then opens up the question; whats more important, a good manager, or a big wage bill?
 

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
QPR will be interesting in the Championship next season. I hope that Saggy Chops stays on and does hilariously average. No doubt the pro-Redknapp media will still lap him up and blame the players though.

Saying that, a lot of their players must have had relegation release clauses. I can't see Julio Cesar or Remy gracing the second-tier next season. I'm sure that there will be other rich clubs around the world taken in by the hype surrounding a fair few of their other players and willing to take a punt on them, as well, despite their wages. Granero, Taarabt and Samba come to mind.

If not, and they fail to seriously cut down the wage bill and get rid of the mercenaries, then if they fail to bounce straight back, it will not be pretty for QPR fans.
 
This is an indication of what can happen if promotion (and then Premiership safety) is chased with money and ballooning debt in the backgorund. QPR's debt isn't so much bigger than Forests - and maybe similar debt structuring in the way that, as far as I know, there are no banks (that can just pull the plug) behind the debt, only private individuals.

We should bear this in mind, whichever division we are in next season. An expensive squad and highly rated managers (although not by me) doesn't guarantee success. We should not create an environment where we are expecting Fawaz to throw money at the situation. There are other ways to chase success. Reading, for example, come down with a reasonable squad, a reasonable financial situation, and the parachute money, with which they can go for promotion again.
 
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The Red Mill

First Team Squad
No - they will really go for it next season (can't afford not to)... I expect to see them make a couple of stellar signings.
It seems to be the new world way.
A Championship club that has been there for a few seasons, or that has come up cannot afford or attract a Premiership squad.
A Premiership side coming down has such mega and first year loaded parachute payments they can add to their Premiership squad and so return to the top flight at the first attempt.
If they don't they then face either financial ruin or have to dismantle their squad and then become another Championship side that can't afford or attract Prem players...
It will become increasingly polarised I think.
FFP?

I doubt, even with the parachute money there is any leighway for big signing, IMO Harry will walk, and QPR will implode and go strai ght down to L1.

Reading, on the other hand, might go straight back up, along with Newcastle :hey:
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
FFP?

I doubt, even with the parachute money there is any leighway for big signing, IMO Harry will walk, and QPR will implode and go strai ght down to L1.

Reading, on the other hand, might go straight back up, along with Newcastle :hey:

Has it ever happened that all 3 teams that were relegated from the Premiership were all promoted back at the first time of asking?
If not, next season could see a first...

Edit: as for FFP... you really think this will have any impact in the mad money world that is professional football? There are so many ways to get around it that a creative accountant and unscrupulous businessman might get a bit confused deciding on which to pick.
 
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