Cortez the Killer
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I feel somehow that Sean Dyche knows Forest inside and out far better than Nuno does.
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Geoff Thomas
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Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
I feel that Dyche and Everton knew the Referee and his VAR mate better than Nuno does.
Forest weren't Dyched today. They created more chances and better chances than the hoofball merchant's team did. The big difference today was one team was allowed to foul and handle the ball in the penalty area.
Thomas
AMERICAN IDIOT
This may be an excellent illustration of our week or the cover picture for our new LP "Straight out of Compton (Acres)" featuring the single "F**k the Referees".
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I think I can say we all collectively feel like him, feel bad for the guy. Shafted left right and center but also takes some blame for his style of play etc. I mean JFC the amount of sitters and mistakes his players had since he came in is outrageous.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Chances are that he probably rejected the job I reckon. It's hard to attract good managers in our position.Imagine hiring this guy instead of Glasner.
We're such a dull team with zero identity.
Normally I'd look myself, but I genuinely can't be arsed, but where were Palace when he went there? Forest were 5 points off relegation when we hired Nuno. I'd be interested to see how much better off Palace were at that time and when they signed him.
Probably more likely couldn't be arsed with our batshit owner.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I can't remember to be honest. Though I reckon most folk would have fancied Palace to pick up once Hodgson went, given that they are an established Premier League side with some decent players in their ranks.
Or he saw Turner and Count Vlachula play and thought "f*** that!".
I get your point though, Nuno wasn't a very inspiring appointment at all. I hope the club show a bit more thought and imagination when selecting his replacement in the summer.
isaacs
Viv Anderson
95% sure that it was the Big Mans choice to go with Nuno instead of Glasner as he was wary of Glasners attitude.
Glasner and his 3-4-2-1 fast attack sounds familiar. After the Palace game i made a bit of a harsh comment at the time saying that Glasner seemed like the better fit than Nunos more expansive possession based approach.
The Big Man and the boy used to be in the ear of our previous manager on the regular wanting a more attacking formation, a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3
Thats if you believe what Daniel Taylor
I believe him.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I can't remember that myself (my memory isn't the best though
), but if that is the case then it's proving to be a poor decision by the club.Colbackstreet Boys
Jim Brennan
Steve went after 1 win in 13, and even his most ardent disciples agreed that was probably fair enough (myself included)...
*I prefer not to speak, if I speak, I am in big trouble*
*I prefer not to speak, if I speak, I am in big trouble*
Green Jumper
"Nottingham Forest Are Premier League"
The Nuno Espirito Santo Rolling Scorecard 23/24 edition
Everton 2-0 Forest
A genuinely poor showing under the circumstances as the lads were comprehensively outfought by a very poor opposition. After an encouraging opening few minutes, Forest sat passively deep against opponents clearing lacking the ability to get in behind and totally failed to compete. The first goal when it came was a simple example of half efforts to close down being punished.
Forest were slightly improved after the break, but never looked capable of mounting sustained pressure to fight back, with the game irrecoverable the second time the opposition weren’t closed down from range.
For once set pieces were reasonably well defended, however in open play, very few competed to an acceptable level. Take away the understandable complaints regarding officiating and the impression grows stronger by the game that many of this squad have mentally checked out. It seems that any PL survival this year will be rely on others failing even worse than Forest, as opposed to any element of merit.
Nuno cards a bogey to slip back to +4 on The Rolling Scorecard.
Trend (last 6 games): d, D, W, l, D, l.
Everton 2-0 Forest
A genuinely poor showing under the circumstances as the lads were comprehensively outfought by a very poor opposition. After an encouraging opening few minutes, Forest sat passively deep against opponents clearing lacking the ability to get in behind and totally failed to compete. The first goal when it came was a simple example of half efforts to close down being punished.
Forest were slightly improved after the break, but never looked capable of mounting sustained pressure to fight back, with the game irrecoverable the second time the opposition weren’t closed down from range.
For once set pieces were reasonably well defended, however in open play, very few competed to an acceptable level. Take away the understandable complaints regarding officiating and the impression grows stronger by the game that many of this squad have mentally checked out. It seems that any PL survival this year will be rely on others failing even worse than Forest, as opposed to any element of merit.
Nuno cards a bogey to slip back to +4 on The Rolling Scorecard.
Trend (last 6 games): d, D, W, l, D, l.
Shearstone
Misses the champ
Out of curiosity what did Cooper end on?
rockhopper
Jack Armstrong
I would hazard a guess at +6 if only prem games, a bit worse if you include the cup
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GaribaldiontheExe
A. Trialist
Whether we stay up or go down I think EM will get rid. God knows who will replace him
Thomas
AMERICAN IDIOT
I’d love this but unfortunately he’ll probably be a candidate for half the leagues managerial positions.
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It's Baggio
John Robertson
By my Maths, Nuno's Premier League PPG has dropped (marginally) below Cooper's.
Cooper = 55 games / 52 points = 0.945
Nuno = 17 games / 16 points = 0.941
Cooper = 55 games / 52 points = 0.945
Nuno = 17 games / 16 points = 0.941
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Notcher
Stuart Pearce
The dole
Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
Nuno stays for me, irrespective of where we are next season. We'll likely lose one of Murillo or MGW (probably both if we drop down), but a proper, focused pre-season with a minor squad refresh by way of bringing in a couple of seasoned leader-types will re-set things in my opinion. He's more-than proved himself at both levels even if, for various reasons, this season has been a difficult one for him.
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Green Jumper
"Nottingham Forest Are Premier League"
Steve Cooper (Forest Legend) finished on +6 with 1 point in the previous 6 games.
Any Time Now
Grenville Morris
Moyes will be available shortly
Project Zeus
Steve Chettle
Nuno's performance this season became a sideshow the moment the PSR charges were announced. If I remember correctly, this was three results into his tenure, after the wins against Newcastle and Man United, and the defeat to Bournemouth (with the absurd Boly red card after 20 minutes).
That announcement has completely transformed our season, and from there it's only been about survival, not is x manager better than y manager or anything else.
If/when we stay up, having successfully navigated the tricky 'second season' syndrome, we can look at pushing forward with Nuno. Without the circus of points deductions and PGMOL drama surrounding the club every day, we'll get a much better opportunity to view him fairly.
I understand that people are still hurting about Cooper leaving, and are keen to highlight Nuno's record because of that, but it's extremely unfair and unhelpful in the context of the season, IMO.
That announcement has completely transformed our season, and from there it's only been about survival, not is x manager better than y manager or anything else.
If/when we stay up, having successfully navigated the tricky 'second season' syndrome, we can look at pushing forward with Nuno. Without the circus of points deductions and PGMOL drama surrounding the club every day, we'll get a much better opportunity to view him fairly.
I understand that people are still hurting about Cooper leaving, and are keen to highlight Nuno's record because of that, but it's extremely unfair and unhelpful in the context of the season, IMO.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I admire your optimism.
If we somehow avoid relegation (and lets face it, the F.A might well just dock us points for "bringing the game into disrepute" if they don't get their wish through refereeing decision against us) then we'll probably just get slapped with a points deduction next season and we'll get te same PGMOL drama as well.
We won't have an enjoyable season at this level whilst the league despises us and the owner can't put in place any long term strategy. It's all about finishing 17th, every year.
And on that basis, I don't think any manager will want to stay with us long term. The BS got to Cooper, Nuno is clearly struggling already, whoever replaces him will do as well.