There always seems to be a point where i doubt the managers judgement, with Coops i fellt he bombed out the team following Chelsea away and with Nuno playing Sangare (who looks a liability) not playing Elanga and not sticking with Omobamidele. I just can't see what he's seeing.
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Nuno Herlander Simões Espírito Santo
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
It's incredible just how much the owner and his son's short-sightedness have undone all the excellent work which the Murphs + Coops era did and set up for future seasons.
The gluttony at the club with it's designer signings has been nothing short of crazy. It all really started with Lingard.
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
Aina was a welcome return. And I reckon a partnership of Boly and Murillo and we might have won today, but we're no longer a counter-attack team and we have no backup plan.
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Oh but Jesse was a great cheerleader!! WTF.. Karma
Omobamidele hasn't really put a foot wrong yet..
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
Didn't see the game today, but my general sense is that the team are rudderless, no real conviction or direction at the moment.
At times this season, most players at one time or another have shown skill and energy, but Nuno seems unable to harness those traits on a regular basis. Constantly changing team selections have not helped.
At times this season, most players at one time or another have shown skill and energy, but Nuno seems unable to harness those traits on a regular basis. Constantly changing team selections have not helped.
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
I just think we could do with a decent header with experience, alongside a younger ball-playing CB. In hindsight I think Omobamidele would have been better, they have at least played together more often than any other. Felipe was poor today.
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BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
At the moment, set pieces at both ends are still dreadful. Defensively, the constant partnership changes must be so unsettling. Towards the end of last season, it was clear that Niakhate and Felipe were first choice centre backs. Then if we went to back 3, Boly or Worrall would come in. That helped Forest pick up some important wins to stay up.
I like Nuno for the impressive job he did at Wolves but he needs to stabilise his team selections especially in defence, stop with his Origi obsession, and for something to click into place sharpish.
I like Nuno for the impressive job he did at Wolves but he needs to stabilise his team selections especially in defence, stop with his Origi obsession, and for something to click into place sharpish.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
I thought we looked slightly more threatening today from set pieces in fairness. Beating the first man helps, though there were a couple of dangerous ones and only one awful one from memory.
Barry
Where's me hammer?
Bring Fat Sam in
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Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
He did away at Villa
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
Maybe he's somehow stumbled on having both Reyna and MGW on the pitch at the same time.
Need to play more players with enough quality to unlock the defences and hope to keep the other team out.
I'd seriously be thinking of putting Murillo at CDM and having MGW and Reyna in front of him.
Wood
CHO Reyna MGW Elanga
Murillo
Aina Niakhate Omo Williams
Sels
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Need to play more players with enough quality to unlock the defences and hope to keep the other team out.
I'd seriously be thinking of putting Murillo at CDM and having MGW and Reyna in front of him.
Wood
CHO Reyna MGW Elanga
Murillo
Aina Niakhate Omo Williams
Sels
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Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
He'll be gone at the end of the season either way; we just need him to do a job in the meantime
The problem is there's a few players in his starting eleven that also applies to!
The problem is there's a few players in his starting eleven that also applies to!
Far have we travelled
Youth Team
Shit or bust, for definite.
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
Yes comes with some risk but everything else seems to have failed recently.
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I'm starting to wonder if there hasnt been some considerable pressure on both managers to play certain players - eg Sangare
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Have you considered the possibility that Boris Johnson just might not be a very good PM too?
Its crossed my mind
Agreed
Dirk Furtull
John Robertson
I'm not advocating a change this season but I really don't want Nuno in charge next season. He's not convinced me that he's the man to take us forward in any situation.
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trentendnz
Lurking in the shadows
We have no choice but to stick with until end of season, then someone throw him in the Trent along with his anonymous back room team and watch them drift off into obscurity.
Can anyone name any of them off the top of their head?
Can anyone name any of them off the top of their head?
'mist rollin in'
First Team Squad
I feel quite apathetic towards Nuno, he comes across as a likable character, but I'm not sure if he's going to motivate these players. Cooper had an incredible ability to unite the fans and create a battling mentality of togetherness.
The club have had two weeks since that Luton game to put things right... we've had the points deduction, players have been releasing videos about the support from fans, Forza did the display and we said goodbye to a club legend... and then we were treated to that abysmal first half.
We've simply not improved since Cooper, even without the points deduction we'd be in a precarious position. We have to stick with Nuno because changing the manager at this stage would be very risky, but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes over Summer, he doesn't seem happy here.
As much as I think we have to keep backing Nuno, if we lose on Tuesday, I'm tempted to give it to Psycho till the end of the season!! I'm only part joking, I don't think it would come to that, but I'm not confident that we're staying up with Nuno.
The club have had two weeks since that Luton game to put things right... we've had the points deduction, players have been releasing videos about the support from fans, Forza did the display and we said goodbye to a club legend... and then we were treated to that abysmal first half.
We've simply not improved since Cooper, even without the points deduction we'd be in a precarious position. We have to stick with Nuno because changing the manager at this stage would be very risky, but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes over Summer, he doesn't seem happy here.
As much as I think we have to keep backing Nuno, if we lose on Tuesday, I'm tempted to give it to Psycho till the end of the season!! I'm only part joking, I don't think it would come to that, but I'm not confident that we're staying up with Nuno.
Rubics
Bin VAR!
If we don’t win Tuesday I wouldn’t be surprised if he went.
Bournmouth he went for it both in the starting line up and half time sub, Newcastle and man u were great so what the hell has happened since!
Bournmouth he went for it both in the starting line up and half time sub, Newcastle and man u were great so what the hell has happened since!
eyupmeduck
Geoff Thomas
My personal view is that genuinely feel like he's had a poor hand dealt to him with the points deduction, var, officials, injuries, afcon, injuries from afcon, January window, injuries after afcon and so on. I will start by adding that changing things now will just confirm my thoughts that we have the stench of last years Leeds so don't think he should go now and dependant on what we can do in the summer trading wise I would say that I've seen enough to keep him on as well. He might walk away then but if its after keeping us up then that will be fine too, it doesn't feel like he's gone all in with us and vice versa.
I did see the rationale for playing Felipe ahead of Omo in truth, I think the fear would be Mateta ragdolling Omo being greater than his conflict with Felipe. Felipe was not great but at the same time did practice and get away with some dark arts that kept us in the game but he is definitely showing signs of ageing.
I think he started with a gameplan in mind that didn't pay dividends and he wasn't afraid to change it, I genuinely on the whole don't get the role or purpose of Origi but at the same time you could see the move of Aina, CHO, Yates to him at the end as a way that constantly stretched the Palace back line did create chances. The think is watching motd and seeing them extolling the virtues of Brennan picking up those positions that Origi finds himself in showed me the absolute downgrade in that position he is.
Sangare has never got going for us and I don't think has ever looked fit enough. I think us having to sell Mangala to finance that signing is nowhere near good business but all of these things are pre Nuno really. There is a player there though, he won't turn it around not playing games either but he seems to suffer from the Carvalho and reverse Carvalho in that we say he's the missing peice of the jigsaw when he's not playing and then the wrong piece for the jigsaw when he is playing.
The development of Williams, Omo, Murillo, and Wood has been impressive. The introduction of Sels is also good. Everything else has been sometimes good sometimes not so good.
In truth this season has been a hard watch, whatever the outcome its the off field club decisions that have impacted us most, I think whoever was sat in the dugout would be finding it challenging. The main thing for me is that we left January with a better keeper but weaker squad overall and I'm sure no manager would be wanting to sign up for that.
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I did see the rationale for playing Felipe ahead of Omo in truth, I think the fear would be Mateta ragdolling Omo being greater than his conflict with Felipe. Felipe was not great but at the same time did practice and get away with some dark arts that kept us in the game but he is definitely showing signs of ageing.
I think he started with a gameplan in mind that didn't pay dividends and he wasn't afraid to change it, I genuinely on the whole don't get the role or purpose of Origi but at the same time you could see the move of Aina, CHO, Yates to him at the end as a way that constantly stretched the Palace back line did create chances. The think is watching motd and seeing them extolling the virtues of Brennan picking up those positions that Origi finds himself in showed me the absolute downgrade in that position he is.
Sangare has never got going for us and I don't think has ever looked fit enough. I think us having to sell Mangala to finance that signing is nowhere near good business but all of these things are pre Nuno really. There is a player there though, he won't turn it around not playing games either but he seems to suffer from the Carvalho and reverse Carvalho in that we say he's the missing peice of the jigsaw when he's not playing and then the wrong piece for the jigsaw when he is playing.
The development of Williams, Omo, Murillo, and Wood has been impressive. The introduction of Sels is also good. Everything else has been sometimes good sometimes not so good.
In truth this season has been a hard watch, whatever the outcome its the off field club decisions that have impacted us most, I think whoever was sat in the dugout would be finding it challenging. The main thing for me is that we left January with a better keeper but weaker squad overall and I'm sure no manager would be wanting to sign up for that.
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