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Nuno Da Costa

BryanRoy

BryanRoy

Stuart Pearce
Set to sign within hours or days. Supposedly 120k Euros Salary. Just need to agree to remuneration of an intermediary in the transfer.
 
Tobias

Tobias

Jack Burkitt
Ashley said:
About €5k per week if that's half year, or €2.5k per week if that's his full year salary. Peanuts in this day and age really.
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Bloody hell... Nicholas Randall isn't a half-bad negotiator to say he was only a barista before joining Forest
 
Notcher

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
Redemption said:
It's a bit of casual racism dressed-up in a neologism of black pace.
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I wouldn't go that far. It's more of a postive stereotype than anything. A lot of black players tend to be very quick due to the fast twitch fibres which they tend to carry more consistently.

I don't think anyone who uses the term on here is using in a legitimately derogatory fashion.

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TommyT

TommyT

Jack Burkitt
Notcher said:
I wouldn't go that far. It's more of a postive stereotype than anything. A lot of black players tend to be very quick due to the fast twitch fibres which they tend to carry more consistently.

I don't think anyone who uses the term on here is using in a legitimately derogatory fashion.

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Agree with you...sure no one on here is using it as a casual racial slur...but I’d take a look at the twitch fibre thing...it’s slightly dodgy pseudo science from the range of sources I’ve read and heard.
 
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McKenzie

Geoff Thomas
Notcher said:
I wouldn't go that far. It's more of a postive stereotype than anything. A lot of black players tend to be very quick due to the fast twitch fibres which they tend to carry more consistently.

I don't think anyone who uses the term on here is using in a legitimately derogatory fashion.

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The term is a bit cringe to be honest


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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
TommyT said:
Agree with you...sure no one on here is using it as a casual racial slur...but I’d take a look at the twitch fibre thing...it’s slightly dodgy pseudo science from the range of sources I’ve read and heard.
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Michael Johnson the runner did an excellent documentary on why Black are quick and strong. He concluded with researchers and scientist it was the result of the slave trade. It is like mendels peas and genetics and the slave trade was an extreme of mendels peas. Basically the horrific things they went through caused only the fittest and strongest to survive and also they were bred like dogs by horrific slave owners. That meant again the fittest and strongest were desired and those characteristics were bred. This is why in America the blacks have an issue with diabetes because of the slave owners. It’s horrible to think about but is a rational explanation.
 
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Vance_Warner

Youth Team
TommyT said:
Agree with you...sure no one on here is using it as a casual racial slur...but I’d take a look at the twitch fibre thing...it’s slightly dodgy pseudo science from the range of sources I’ve read and heard.
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Although it would be easier for everyone to just use the word pace. It is less letters and in no way highlights the individuals skin colour. Just a thought.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Notcher said:
I wouldn't go that far. It's more of a positive stereotype than anything. A lot of black players tend to be very quick due to the fast twitch fibres which they tend to carry more consistently.

I don't think anyone who uses the term on here is using in a legitimately derogatory fashion.

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you've literally just racialised your explanation of it.
 
TommyT

TommyT

Jack Burkitt
EmmersonForest4 said:
Michael Johnson the runner did an excellent documentary on why Black are quick and strong. He concluded with researchers and scientist it was the result of the slave trade. It is like mendels peas and genetics and the slave trade was an extreme of mendels peas. Basically the horrific things they went through caused only the fittest and strongest to survive and also they were bred like dogs by horrific slave owners. That meant again the fittest and strongest were desired and those characteristics were bred. This is why in America the blacks have an issue with diabetes because of the slave owners. It’s horrible to think about but is a rational explanation.
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I know the Johnson doc well, but there is much more to it than that, and there is some pretty dodgy pseudo science to back that up, also thinking and research has evolved since 2012. Much of the arguments are compelling granted, but personally having a half Ghanaian family, (a few of whom are prominent academics) I’ve been party to a lot of very enlightened discussion on this subject.

We often hear that Kenyans are ‘genetically’ more suited to long distance, but in ultra-marathons, which is a long distance footrace longer than 100 km, is also dominated by white athletes. Eight out of the nine best performances in ultra-marathons (ranging from 162km to 426 km) were posted by white runners.

Rather than seek answers to Jamaica’s sprinting dominance or the success of East African long distance runners, perhaps we should seek answers to the following: Why are no questions raised when twenty-one white men compete in a 1,000 metre Kayak heat event, yet eyebrows are raised when eight black sprinters compete in an Olympic 100 metre event? Why studies are conducted to find out whether black athletes have a “fast twitch”, yet no studies are carried out to examine whether there is a form of “twitch” that makes white ultra-marathoners run longer, faster and harder? Why is Britain’s recent Olympic success attributed to investment and excellent organisation, while Jamaica’s success is attributed to nothing more than genetics?
 
Haych

Haych

John Robertson
First we can’t talk about billy Davies and Nicky shorey and now we’re banned from demanding we sign some blace, if someone tells me squirrels are on the shit list I'm calling it a day
 
TommyT

TommyT

Jack Burkitt
Heisenberg said:
First we can’t talk about billy Davies and Nicky shorey and now we’re banned from demanding we sign some blace, if someone tells me squirrels are on the shit list I'm calling it a day
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As Mr Warner says - I think we could just demand pace...

It’s not really about banning people from saying things either, it’s more about becoming more enlightened, smarter people. The currency of comedy, satire and provocation will still be alive and well without the term ‘blace’
 
Project Zeus

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
EmmersonForest4 said:
Michael Johnson the runner did an excellent documentary on why Black are quick and strong. He concluded with researchers and scientist it was the result of the slave trade. It is like mendels peas and genetics and the slave trade was an extreme of mendels peas. Basically the horrific things they went through caused only the fittest and strongest to survive and also they were bred like dogs by horrific slave owners. That meant again the fittest and strongest were desired and those characteristics were bred. This is why in America the blacks have an issue with diabetes because of the slave owners. It’s horrible to think about but is a rational explanation.
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Huh? Are you saying slave owners selectively bred slaves with diabetes?

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TommyT

TommyT

Jack Burkitt
McKenzie said:
The term is a bit cringe to be honest


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I’d probably lean towards that too, but would like to back up Notcher by saying it’s probably not intended as a racial slur, perhaps just something that we don’t really need to say... society as a whole is fine tuning its understanding of a race and racism, so it’s inevitable that things like this come up.

All of us, regardless of background need to recognise that there is an awful lot of unconscious stereotyping and bias written into our society and that is something we should all try and be aware of.
 
TommyT

TommyT

Jack Burkitt
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Ravi

Ravi

Upper Decker
TommyT said:
I think we all might be swimming in slightly dodgy waters here... it’s a deep and complex subject and perhaps best discussed on a dedicated thread!?

I’m sure most people clicking on this thread would like to know if Da Costa is signing or not!
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An LTLF thread weaving on and off topic is the norm.
 
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Timothy Pope

I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
Timothy Pope said:
Is flat-white the opposite of blace?


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f*** me! What have I started??

I’ll amend the question:

Is flat-white the opposite of pace?

Hmmm. Not sure it works without me being a fully signed up member of the Klu Klux Klan!


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