No, Man U will likely want more that 20 as will Sheffield United. Neither are also proven in the league, and neither got as many goal contributions as MGW last season.
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Morgan Anthony Gibbs-White
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This is what I'm struggling with .If Haaland‘s fee was £51 million, it boggles the mind that MGW is ‘worth’ approaching £40 million.
I know that Wolves are trying to price us out of the deal, but jeez.
Your absolutely spot on about Haaland who will probably go on to score over 20 goals this season after already bagging a brace today.
Can we say that about Gibb's White?..no we can't because he won't.class player no question but the comparisons are huge when u think for 11 mill more you have a striker who's record is world class.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
I think we’d definitely get both for £40m. They are obviously different players so can’t be judged on goal contributions alone. Would you rather have berge and garner or just MGW? Considering our current personnel
And 400k per week salary so 20.8m a season on salary, +56 million is slightly more than MGW.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
To be fair it isn’t comparable. Borussia put a buyout too low. Also his wages will be probably £20 million a year or somet!
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Berge was pretty decent for Sheffield United in the Premier League I thought?
None of Garner, Berge or MGW are worth anything close to £40m though. That sort of money should be landing you a proven Premier League player, or a couple of highly rated players from a decent European top flight team or the Championship.
We have no idea what Man U will want for Garner, we also have no idea what we are bidding for MGW. We bid 25m plus 10m add-ons, add-ons that Wolves thought he'd never hit. So all the amateur dramatics about us spending 40m on him is ridiculous (at this time).
Players who get goals and assists cost far more than players like Garner, and whose to say we won't get both anyway. I don t think we need Garner and Berge, 1 would do, so to answer the question no I wouldn't want both for 40m as it wouldn't help with the problems we had yesterday.
*Edit* Berge signed for United for 22m they'd want that back plus more so 25-30m minimum.
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I was aware of the buyout clause I was just trying to compare the players.
I guess 23 yrs out the big time you just forget how the massive the Prem is to what it was way back then I know I have..
I just can't my head round the figure's bandied around for player's it's on a totally different level..
20m gets you an average player/unproven player these days.
Not until you start hitting 50m+ do you start to get players of proven quality. Cucurella, 1 season in the league and 60m+ the rumoured fee.
Redemption
Chief Eye Roller
Imagine signing the first £1m player, almost doubling the previous record that had set a month earlier, and then playing him out of position.
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Bob Fossil
Nottingham's dirty secret
I hope Coops knows how to get this lad playing like a £30/£40m player.
mysteryduck
First Team Squad
I really doubt that Dortmund messed up and set Haaland's release too low. He was already a rising star when he joined them, everyone expected him to be at an elite club eventually - a lower release clause was probably a good way of saying "play for us for a bit, score loads of goals, and we won't make it difficult for you to move on after that"
Morpeth
John Robertson
This is correct and also fairly common knowledge I thought. Dortmund made a profit and had a beast of a striker for a couple of years. Had they not agreed to that contact they wouldn’t have been able to sign him. It’s quite simple.
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
Im a massive fan of MGW and for me he was the one I wanted us to get(at 20m) but this feels a bit deranged now, the whole thing.
Ill be honest, Im already bored of the money involved in transfers in the Prem. Slam that f***ing transfer window shut Jim White and lets get back talking about actual football.
Ill be honest, Im already bored of the money involved in transfers in the Prem. Slam that f***ing transfer window shut Jim White and lets get back talking about actual football.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
I, like others don’t believe it at all either.
Mainly because a couple of things:
- We haven’t overpaid for other players in general
- Look at the guy from Betis, they want 25m euros apparently, we agree a fee for 9m euros - same with the Lingard wages
- It’s in Wolves’ interest to inflate the alleged price to keep people off their back for selling yet another player (they are about to sell Coady as well)
- Even if it is true, it’ll be structured so that it will only get close to that if we stay up, if we stay up it’ll likely mean he’s performed and if he’s performed he will be worth that anyway.
Mainly because a couple of things:
- We haven’t overpaid for other players in general
- Look at the guy from Betis, they want 25m euros apparently, we agree a fee for 9m euros - same with the Lingard wages
- It’s in Wolves’ interest to inflate the alleged price to keep people off their back for selling yet another player (they are about to sell Coady as well)
- Even if it is true, it’ll be structured so that it will only get close to that if we stay up, if we stay up it’ll likely mean he’s performed and if he’s performed he will be worth that anyway.
Collymore!
Grenville Morris
Got to love the Haaland hypothesis… Are we forgetting reality sometimes?
Haaland would only sign for Dortmund with the low release clause, which became active after two years.
This was because he wanted to go to Madrid, but couldn’t quite get there from leipzig.
No mistake from Dortmund, simply the deal they had to offer to sign him. They accepted two years with him, and got him for €20m and made £60m profit in two years.
He’s clearly a £150m player.
City had to pull out all the stops to sign him as he was set on Madrid… City too have had to give him a release clause in two years so that he won’t get priced out of his Madrid move.
We surely can’t genuinely believe that Haaland’s fee is anywhere comparable to MGW can we?! I’m not sure MGW has the same pull over City and Madrid… likewise I’m not sure Haaland would pick up the phone for us if we matched the £51m, even just to laugh.
We’ll pay £35m for MGW, more guaranteed but probably still a good proportion as add-one.
Let’s get it done so we can delete this thread forever.
Haaland would only sign for Dortmund with the low release clause, which became active after two years.
This was because he wanted to go to Madrid, but couldn’t quite get there from leipzig.
No mistake from Dortmund, simply the deal they had to offer to sign him. They accepted two years with him, and got him for €20m and made £60m profit in two years.
He’s clearly a £150m player.
City had to pull out all the stops to sign him as he was set on Madrid… City too have had to give him a release clause in two years so that he won’t get priced out of his Madrid move.
We surely can’t genuinely believe that Haaland’s fee is anywhere comparable to MGW can we?! I’m not sure MGW has the same pull over City and Madrid… likewise I’m not sure Haaland would pick up the phone for us if we matched the £51m, even just to laugh.
We’ll pay £35m for MGW, more guaranteed but probably still a good proportion as add-one.
Let’s get it done so we can delete this thread forever.
Finally someone speaking sense!!!
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Grenville Morris
Or even more aptly, Calvin Phillips for 42M from Leeds to Citeh. Established international, tough and strong-will play a system to the letter and just what we could do with in CM at the moment.
I know that theres no way Leeds let him go to a club like us but the fee doesn't reflect that, its a true commercial valuation for the player based on his record and achievements.
Obviously MGW is a different sort of player but surely Wolves are pulling our plonkers with regard to valuation....
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
My take on this:
1) There's no way on this earth after being so frugal and selective all summer that suddenly £40m leaves our account and goes into Wolves'. The fee will probably be £25m max paid over installments with perhaps £10/12m in add ons. Such as money if we survive this season, and next season and whether MGW himself scores 10 goals for example.
2) He is clearly the club's (Cooper's) number one priority. The noises coming from everywhere are that we've chased him virtually since the final whistle went at Wembley. I don't Cooper's new contract necessarily hinges on this one deal but I think it would go a long way to ensuring Cooper actually signs the contract he's supposedly agreed to.
3) I'm not sure where he would play but I've seen enough of him to know he has proper quality and can play in a number if positions. Yesterday's game was highlighted by Cooper in a negative way for too much needless loss of possession. The more quality we have on the field the better. Both this signing and the Moreno signing go a long way to rectify that.
1) There's no way on this earth after being so frugal and selective all summer that suddenly £40m leaves our account and goes into Wolves'. The fee will probably be £25m max paid over installments with perhaps £10/12m in add ons. Such as money if we survive this season, and next season and whether MGW himself scores 10 goals for example.
2) He is clearly the club's (Cooper's) number one priority. The noises coming from everywhere are that we've chased him virtually since the final whistle went at Wembley. I don't Cooper's new contract necessarily hinges on this one deal but I think it would go a long way to ensuring Cooper actually signs the contract he's supposedly agreed to.
3) I'm not sure where he would play but I've seen enough of him to know he has proper quality and can play in a number if positions. Yesterday's game was highlighted by Cooper in a negative way for too much needless loss of possession. The more quality we have on the field the better. Both this signing and the Moreno signing go a long way to rectify that.
I still think that Wolves are genuinely happy to keep him, so the figure is really an arbitrary value for a player they don't plan to sell. . Arguably, imo they should have him in the starting lineup every week, though I realise there's not much patience shown in Premier League.
Similarly, Man U should be playing Garner, not selling him. McFred looks terrible, especially for a football super power. But who knows what they'll do.
Similarly, Man U should be playing Garner, not selling him. McFred looks terrible, especially for a football super power. But who knows what they'll do.
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Grenville Morris
You say that but theres also no way that this has rumbled on for so long without there being some substance to it. If Wolves and the player were happy together it would be done (and he would have signed a new contract). Fact is the player wants away-there can be no other explanation and even though that doesn't mean 100% it will happen its a distinct possibility.
The only way this goes away is when he signs a new deal with them....
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Guedes mate. Put another shrimp on the barbie!
Agree 100 percent. There's certainly something bubbling along. It could still happen, I personally hope it does happen and I'm not really hung up on the money. If EM wants to fund it, what do I care? But we as fans will need to accept that it's a high figure , he's a contracted Wolves player with multiple years on the deal. It's gonna be expensive in monetary figures. But if he's viewed as the key component over the next five years, and we stay in the PL , then the "value" equation becomes about far more than the transfer fee.
And if Wolves stand their ground, I fully understand that position too.
And if Wolves stand their ground, I fully understand that position too.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
He didn't exactly do much against Leeds apparently...
A fairly timid and quiet display from Gibbs-White. He improved in the second half but throughout the game he struggled to make an impact. 5/10
Anonymous in the early stages of the game. While the other attack minded players combined to good effect, Gibbs-White struggled to make a positive impression. He brightened up a little towards the end of the half and was much more imposing in the second. 6/10
Be interesting to see how this pans out. There's still big questions on whether he's can do it at Prem level.
A fairly timid and quiet display from Gibbs-White. He improved in the second half but throughout the game he struggled to make an impact. 5/10
Anonymous in the early stages of the game. While the other attack minded players combined to good effect, Gibbs-White struggled to make a positive impression. He brightened up a little towards the end of the half and was much more imposing in the second. 6/10
Be interesting to see how this pans out. There's still big questions on whether he's can do it at Prem level.