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Midfield problems

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Guest
I think Tuesday evenings are when he meets with the rest of the Professor Yaffle look-a-like club.
 

matt1982

Jack Burkitt
He knows himself that he can no longer play Saturday and Tuesday

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but he actually did cos he played tuesday v palace and at the weekend v derby (granted it was sunday)

Perhaps he means Saturday followed by tuesday rather than the other way round, even though thats still 2 games in a week, as he would have had more rest, with the latter.
 

mouldy

Geoff Thomas
Fletcher will have been brought off because he was looking for a sending off. I assume that the injury was an excuse he is a poor poor player anyway in my eyes. Can't win the ball hardly retains it and gives it away cheaply. As for a hard man he is a very poor tackler.

A bruised ankle doesn't take 6 days to recover!
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Ray Von said:
We still have Davies & Martin available dont we?
Famous said:
Yes but they cannot play in the centre.

Since when did a fact like that stop CC doing it?!
 

matt1982

Jack Burkitt
i think we do need to sort out full back positions and central midfield positions - there is constant flux, of who's playing there and it must be bad for team harmony...of course the situation isnt helped by people constantly getting injured/suspended :( Chambers and Lynch are not good enough fullbacks for this division...whilst it is arguable Perch again has been more effective in midfield this season than rb....even though hes better at rb than chambers, it cant be easy for him constantly having to change position and adapt, as per team needs. With Moussi and Lewis out, i actually think he's a better partner for cohen in midfield than fletcher but, then of course that means Chambers would have to play rb, which of course dont want either, as per above!

I would really like CC to invest in proper fullbacks rather than players playing out of position (even both chambers and lynch are naturally centrebacks), and good enough quality for this league. We could then stop worrying about those positions and it would also help the midfield conundrum as Perch would either play there, or not play and be on the bench
 
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clusternakker

Guest
mouldy said:
A bruised ankle doesn't take 6 days to recover!

It could be longer, its not like someones twisted his nipple and caused that type of flesh bruise, he will have sprained it or done some form of muscle strain in that area.
 

beaker

First Team Squad
matt1982 said:
i think we do need to sort out full back positions and central midfield positions - there is constant flux, of who's playing there and it must be bad for team harmony...of course the situation isnt helped by people constantly getting injured/suspended  :( Chambers and Lynch are not good enough fullbacks for this division...whilst it is arguable Perch again has been more effective in midfield this season than rb....even though hes better at rb than chambers, it cant be easy for him constantly having to change position and adapt, as per team needs. With Moussi and Lewis out, i actually think he's a better partner for cohen in midfield than fletcher but, then of course that means Chambers would have to play rb, which of course dont want either, as per above!

I would really like CC to invest in proper fullbacks rather than players playing out of position (even both chambers and lynch are naturally centrebacks), and good enough quality for this league. We could then stop worrying about those positions and it would also help the midfield conundrum as Perch would either play there, or not play and be on the bench


Good post Matt totally agree CC should sign 2 proper full backs this would stabilise the defence and midfield and would stop him using round pegs in square holes. Send Lynch, Fletcher and Martin back to where they came from, the first two are not up to standard and the 3rd does not put the effort in. Sign up Camp and get the team to play from the back and through the midfield instead of the constant long ball up to the forewards who spend most of the time chasing lost causes. And please give Anderson a pass or 2 never saw him have one on Sunday.
 

matt1982

Jack Burkitt
beaker

yeah i certainly wouldnt mind if and when lynch and martin return to their clubs. Martin impressed me early on and especially v watford, but since then hes done nothing, and dropped down the pecking order. Lynch has just looked shaky every time ive seen him, admittedly only v ipswich and derby (especially his cruyff turns v derby :frantic:. ) Personally i think fletcher's got more to give, it looks like he hasnt played much football this season, which he hasnt at palace, he looks a bit off the pace, but I suppose he was just here to cover Moussi's injury anyway. I think Fletcher could be useful in the long run, if he's available to sign permanently and of course camp should be signed. And 2 decent fullbacks.
 

andover red

Geoff Thomas
I think Lynch has looked okay. The only times he's looked dodgy is when he's tried to get clever, like against Derby. No wide player has consistently gotten at him that I can think of. He's been better than Bennett this season so I'd keep him on for now.
 

ajgray15

A. Trialist
this thread should be full back problems! lynch done ok - been better than bennett this season - defo need a right back - and a better left back.

ok in mid if they all stay fit
 
ajgray15 said:
this thread should be full back problems! lynch done ok -  been better than bennett this season - defo need a right back - and a better left back.

ok in mid if they all stay fit

Well thats precisely the point, they are not!

There is an important distinction to make here. The full back position is not a problem caused by injuries, just blind faith and bad planning. However, the midfield situation is caused by injuries so is a more pressing concern in the short term with so many tough games coming up.
 

mrcunny

A. Trialist
Famous said:
Well thats precisely the point, they are not!

There is an important distinction to make here. The full back position is not a problem caused by injuries, just blind faith and bad planning. However, the midfield situation is caused by injuries so is a more pressing concern in the short term with so many tough games coming up.

i agree about the bad planning,it was obvious to everyone except luke chambers mam that he wasnt good enough in that position last season..
i think lynch is ok..
 

nickl360

Youth Team
mouldy said:
Fletcher will have been brought off because he was looking for a sending off. I assume that the injury was an excuse he is a poor poor player anyway in my eyes. Can't win the ball hardly retains it and gives it away cheaply. As for a hard man he is a very poor tackler.

A bruised ankle doesn't take 6 days to recover!

It's not a flesh bruise, it's a bruised bone (or set of bones) in his foot and ankle area.

He had to have a scan on it to see if it was broken, luckily it was only bruised.
 

Dorset Red

Viv Anderson
mouldy said:
Fletcher will have been brought off because he was looking for a sending off. I assume that the injury was an excuse he is a poor poor player anyway in my eyes. Can't win the ball hardly retains it and gives it away cheaply. As for a hard man he is a very poor tackler.

A bruised ankle doesn't take 6 days to recover!

I have seen Fletcher at close hand when he played for Bmth and at West Ham, when playing regularly he is a far better player than he has shown so far. It is obvious he is lacking games and rhythm in his game. Read what McGugan says in his NEP piece, he states that he and several others are off the pace due to lack of proper match practise. There is no substitute for it and Fletcher has not played at Palace regularly under Warnock. He can play the holding midfield position well and I am sure he will improve. Either way, he is a short term answer to a problem that will go once Mousii and McGugan are both available.

As for Sunday, Flethcher had back spasms and could not feel his leg, he may well have been courting a sending off but it was the injury that affected his removal. For now, if Perch is at right back then he is the best option alongside Cohen.
 

adam09

Super Koopa
mouldy said:
Fletcher will have been brought off because he was looking for a sending off. I assume that the injury was an excuse he is a poor poor player anyway in my eyes. Can't win the ball hardly retains it and gives it away cheaply. As for a hard man he is a very poor tackler.

A bruised ankle doesn't take 6 days to recover!

Fletcher has barely given the ball away when he's had it, his positioning is good (notice - the only silly goal we've let in from his position was v Palace when he wasn't playing?!)

I'd be interested to know who you do think is a good player "in your eyes", because you obviously miss a hell of a lot of things that people do. I guess this is down to inexperience.

And also, I play a lot of football and have had badly bruised ankles (both at the same time!) and, whilst you can still play, knock it wrongly and it's very painful and sore. It took a few months for mine to clear up. By not playing, you probably cut that time down to a couple of weeks to a month.

Normal bruises can last a week, depends how hard you're hit.
 

Dorset Red

Viv Anderson
Ironic also that in the past people have criticised the Forest medical staff over injuries yet when precautions are taken to prevent more serious injury then they get criticised again!!
 

thetfordred

Viv Anderson
fletcher will be a good player for us , by the end of the loan i suspect a lot of people would like to see us look at making him a permanent signing , let him get match sharp and we'll see the best of him , as with a lot of defensive midfielder's a lot of the good work they do goes un-noticed.
 

Jonny21_NFFC

First Team Squad
I think we have to play Cohen in the middle with Perch today to even compete with Brum's midfield. That Leaves RB free, and if Lynch is also out then LB is free aswell.
I would think Chambers will play at RB,  :wub:, Heath or possibly Wilson at LB myself id pick Wilson.
 
                    Camp
Chambers Morgan Breckin  Lynch (Wilson if needed)

Anderson Perch  Cohen  McCleary

        Earnshaw   Garner
 
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