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Meet the New-Look Recruitment Team (The same as the old team (nearly))

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Interesting and ambitious move. Syrianos was a swimmer at Olympiacos and at the national swimming squad, and his father was a rower in the national team. He studied business management in the UK, and then sports data analysis at Columbia University.

For those who wish to bother with google translate here's an interview of his back from 2018: https://www.gazzetta.gr/planetfootb...nas-poy-allazei-tis-metagrafes-sti-bundesliga
 
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Thomas

Martel Maxwell Enjoyer
Hey I’m studying business management.
Forest hire me, I’ll source some high quality coffee.

But in all seriousness it sounds like a promising move, I’ve always wanted someone who’s successful in German football to get involved in our setup.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Oikonomidis hints that this is only the first in a long line of drastic behind the scenes changes.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Another long Greek interview: https://www.gazzetta.gr/football/ar...soy-anoigei-ta-matia-otan-anaziteis-proponiti

He seems keen to use data analysis to everything from scouting to opponent analysis and even to the choice of managers. I suspect he may have more than a simple scouting job.

Incidentally, he wasn't just any swimmer: in 2007 he broke the Greek junior national record at 100m breastplate, which had held since 1990.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
This sort of appointment seems to indicate a U-turn from "I want results yesterday" to "building from the bottom up". Unless I'm being too optimistic.
 

ShakeyRed

Viv Anderson
Another long Greek interview: https://www.gazzetta.gr/football/ar...soy-anoigei-ta-matia-otan-anaziteis-proponiti

He seems keen to use data analysis to everything from scouting to opponent analysis and even to the choice of managers. I suspect he may have more than a simple scouting job.

Incidentally, he wasn't just any swimmer: in 2007 he broke the Greek junior national record at 100m breastplate, which had held since 1990.

Either something went wrong in translation or you actually make your junior swimmers wear a piece of armour whilst in competition.
 
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GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Either something went wrong in translation or you actually make your junior swimmers wear a piece of armour whist in competition.
Breaststroke is for beginners; breastplate is for real champions.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay

BryanRoy

Stuart Pearce
Interesting…

He is highly regarded, and works under Sporting Director Sven Mislintat (who is a firm favourite of mine, as anyone who’s read my ramblings in the „European and other Football…“ thread will attest to). Speaks fluent English too, apparently.

Here’s his LinkedIn page: https://de.linkedin.com/in/syrianosgeorgios

VfB uses a highly-focussed analysis-based approach to recruitment, casting a wide net throughout Europe, north and south America and Asia-Pacific in the hunt for players.

The Mislintat-way is to sign young, talented players who can make the step up and who can then increase in value, and potentially be sold on for a lucrative return.

Such a strategy since Sven Mislintat arrived has seen the club unearth some absolute gems, such as forwards Sasa Kalijdzic, Nicolas Gonzalez and Silas Wamangituka, and midfielders Wataru Endo, Orel Mangala and Borna Sosa.

The approach is methodical, and not rushed. The club have also signed players specifically to develop, with no pressure on them.

If this is the way Forest are leaning, then two things:

1. it’s about bloody time, and
2. this could be excellent

I probably don’t have to remind you that Sven Mislintat and his staff built a squad that got promoted from the 2. Bundelsiga last Season!

I know your passion for Stuttgart mate and how we've spoken about their policies in the past.

This is unbelievably positive news and it seems like Forest are finally been dragged into modern ways. Almost gives you hope again. Just needs 1 or 2 more like minded individuals around him and then it's up to can Hughton get himself and his team to match those requirements.
 

garibaldi

Jack Armstrong
The ownership for me have still done more good than harm and therefore, get the benefit of the doubt. Yes the scattergun recruitment this season was awful setting us back years, but I like that the big man has accepted this and has sort to rectify issues.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
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https://twitter.com/bylka613_/status/1390782142284763142?s=19

Notthigham? Oh, the French and their spelling.

I wouldn't read much into that. It does not mean that Mansouri works for you, he's probably just a member of Modesto's network. Scouters officially registered to watch a match have to declare affiliation with a club they're scouting for. The guy may simply be scouting players for us, for all you know, especially post-Brexit. We have been heavily linked with Lens' left back Issiaga Sylla, for example.

But now that I think of it, Sylla (a Guinean international) may be a target for you as well.
 

cheapseats

Grenville Morris
Its clearly a good move, but alongside "talented young players with upside" I hope the club is also going to listen to CH regarding "what we need in the here and now in the Championship" so he has the squad that he can work with the deliver the league position that everyone in critics corner is baying for....
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Suddenly all the defenders of Vretroz & Modesto have gone quiet.

It's a start at least. Won't get too carried away until we're showing evidence that we're actually recruiting Championship fit players. It's all very well it looking good on paper, but the Mendez & his "copy Wolves" model did to some too (not me unsurprisingy).

Anyone who hasn't got a slight concern that yet again it's another person unfamiliar with this league has just proven themselves incapable of learning. It might work this time, it might not, but the good news here for me is the fact EM has recognized the main weakness at the club.

No doubt that if any of us point out any flaws we're seeing in the new setup it'll result in several years of the white knights appearing en masse to shout any criticism down, then going silent when everyone's caught on to the truth.

I'd love to have a highlights reel of all the defending of Carvalho, Soudani, Da Costa etc. :LOL: Even if this new lad isn't great, he's gonna struggle to waste 18m as badly as that. That was Platt-esq
 
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NooForest

First Team Squad
Its clearly a good move, but alongside "talented young players with upside" I hope the club is also going to listen to CH regarding "what we need in the here and now in the Championship" so he has the squad that he can work with the deliver the league position that everyone in critics corner is baying for....

CH is obviously gonna play an active Role in putting the Recruitment Team in Place which is possibly long overdue. I think maybe those mistakes of signing over 30 year olds on long 3 year Contracts have possibly been learned from. I think he might even have brought in a Scout that he worked with at Newcastle Birmingham Norwich and Brighton. Not full time but on an advisory basis. So with this guy from Germany being announced on the analytical side of things. It looks like a lot of " du diligence " is gonna be done on the recruitment side of things which is possibly long overdue. So I am 100 % persuaded that the next couple of transfer windows are gonna be more fruitful. Getting some players out of the door is still a challenge though.
 

Green Jumper

"Nottingham Forest Are Premier League"
My dislike of Vrentzos is well known here, so I'm hopeful he's out and takes Modesto with him too.

We need to poach a new CEO with experience of running a successful Championship club and completely overhaul our scouting and recruitment set-ups. Randall recently talked about the failure of short-term thinking, so I'm pinning the success or failure of this summer's overhaul on him now.

It may well be that we need to have a couple of Hughton-driven windows while the new operations get up to speed, but I'd have money that CH has more contacts and credibility in his little finger than Vrentzos and Modesto combined.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
The ownership for me have still done more good than harm and therefore, get the benefit of the doubt. Yes the scattergun recruitment this season was awful setting us back years, but I like that the big man has accepted this and has sort to rectify issues.

My thoughts exactly mate, it is not always gonna be binary & be constantly perfect. Admitting mistakes is a huge plus, generally we have been on an upwards curve every year they have been here.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Suddenly all the defenders of Vretroz & Modesto have gone quiet.

It's a start at least. Won't get too carried away until we're showing evidence that we're actually recruiting Championship fit players. It's all very well it looking good on paper, but the Mendez & his "copy Wolves" model did to some too (not me unsurprisingy).

Anyone who hasn't got a slight concern that yet again it's another person unfamiliar with this league has just proven themselves incapable of learning. It might work this time, it might not, but the good news here for me is the fact EM has recognized the main weakness at the club.

No doubt that if any of us point out any flaws we're seeing in the new setup it'll result in several years of the white knights appearing en masse to shout any criticism down, then going silent when everyone's caught on to the truth.

I'd love to have a highlights reel of all the defending of Carvalho, Soudani, Da Costa etc. :LOL: Even if this new lad isn't great, he's gonna struggle to waste 18m as badly as that. That was Platt-esq

Nobody cares Alf
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
My dislike of Vrentzos is well known here, so I'm hopeful he's out and takes Modesto with him too.

We need to poach a new CEO with experience of running a successful Championship club and completely overhaul our scouting and recruitment set-ups. Randall recently talked about the failure of short-term thinking, so I'm pinning the success or failure of this summer's overhaul on him now.

It may well be that we need to have a couple of Hughton-driven windows while the new operations get up to speed, but I'd have money that CH has more contacts and credibility in his little finger than Vrentzos and Modesto combined.

Well said chap. Spot on.

Compare the signings what Hughton landed in Jan this season, to the god awful ones we bought in Lamouchi's. It's night and day.

Reading posters defend Modesto's signing to the hilt on here has been more entertaining than watching most those signings play :LOL:
 
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Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
It might work this time, it might not, but the good news here for me is the fact EM has recognized the main weakness at the club.

This is the only important point. We all have an idea of how we want stuff done, I suppose I come under the 'Defenders of Modesto' although it's more what I thought he represented, which was the club hiring somebody who has kicked a ball this millennium as Technical Director, still think he could play a decent role if the recruitment side of things actually get fleshed out properly this time and that includes the CEO, be it Vrentzos or whoever, sticking to the business side of things.
 
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