theloner
Viv Anderson
Holy Cow... I misread that last word as Shelvey
Thought we had finally lost the final marble until I found the old spectacles 
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Matchday 34 - Everton v Nottingham Forest - „El Fiasco!“ - Sunday, 21st April KO 1:30pm
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Holy Cow... I misread that last word as Shelvey
Thought we had finally lost the final marble until I found the old spectacles 
isaacs
Viv Anderson
We were dreadful, absolutely spineless. But if that first penalty call for the foul on Reyna is given and MGW tucks it away it becomes a completely different game. Everton would actually have attempted to get bodies forward and the atmosphere in the crowd would have being toxic. Ifs buts and maybes but that was the perfect scenario for us to set scene for the away win we needed.
But that second half. Christ.
City on Saturday.
Aussie Forest
First Team Squad
Well said Alfie. Agree totally. Our response embarrassing and childish. We are better than that
Aussie Forest
First Team Squad
Mate you’re creating a mountain out of a mole hill due to a word you’ve taken out of context. You’ve said your piece. Move on man
George cooney
Viv Anderson
The most alarming thing for me was Everton was rubbish but were man for man better than us all over the pitch.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Like those he's arguing with?
Munich and Madrid
A. Trialist
I believe like everyone else on here I am allowed to express my views( at least I thought that was the point of the forum) I am not sure since I returned. Your two likes are from members who have 180,000 posts between them and are the two who I have had dialogue with since my return. I am about 500 posts so I guess I will not have a huge influence on the forum but I would suggest I have as much right as any other member to post my views.
Munich and Madrid
A. Trialist
Thank you for your support BR.
Red Ray's Redlist
Viv Anderson
On the first one I can understand that it didn't look a penalty on first look. I thought the same because Reyna throws himself to the ground on minimal contact after a heavy touch. But on a second look you can see the touch is heavy because Young kicks the back of his foot. If Reyna touches the ball first no penalty because the touch isn't enough to send him over; he dives. But that isn't the case. Young unfairly prevents Reyna control the ball by kicking him. It's a clear foul on that basis so should have been penalty. Reyna falling over is irrelevant in all of this, and VAR should have seen this within one or 2 viewings.
Everyone is entitled to post their view. That is what the forum is for.
Our philosophy is, and always has been, make your point, defend it, and move the conversation on.
At this point, that debate is just going round in circles, and benefits nobody.
Clearly, you have a different viewpoint that some other posters - that is absolutely fine, the world would be a boring place if everyone agreed.
But, you’ve made your point. Now, move the discussion on.
We’ve got a lot more things to discuss, than one or two people’s opinion of the current trainer.
enlightened
First Team Squad
Respect is earned. They haven't earned it so we shouldn't treat them as if they have it.
I'm torn as to whether the official club tweet is a good thing or not. I have absolutely no issues with us calling out the PGMOL for consistently awful and inconsistent decisions. I've no issue with us pointing out that Atwell is a Luton fan - it's not rocket science to make sure that you don't have officials with any sort of vested interest involved in games, especially when that is drawn to your attention before the game.
On the other hand, our reaction is undoubtedly lacking in professionalism and class and paints us in a bad light.
On balance though, we have received so many bad decisions this season that have directly cost us points that at some point you really have to take a stand. Add that to the anti-competitive rules that govern this 'competition', breaches of which are only dealt with when it is easy to do so and I'm OK with what we've done.
Football is not what it used to be. Fans are seemingly irrelevant these days. Everything is done to preserve the fortunes of the big market clubs. FA cup replays are being canned because the big clubs can't cope with the fixture congestion and yet teams of amateurs are prepared to fit these commitments in around full time jobs unrelated to football.
Something has to change and if we are a catalyst for that in any way then I'm proud of us. So, in summary, I don't disagree with the tone of the club statement at all. The mention of Atwell as a Luton fan was probably unnecessary (and will probably lead to some serious problems for us). I would have preferred us to reflect for a few hours before making the statement as I think the speed with which it was released actually reduces it's effectiveness because it appears petulant.
There is definitely something wrong with football these days and it needs to be fixed.
Munich and Madrid
A. Trialist
I had stopped the discussion last night, I have nothing to move on from and like my club I reserve the right to post whenever and whatever I want. I believe the Nuno thread is still active.
Then, good, and we can all leave it there.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
Everyone is laughing at us this morning. Im telling you that statement was one of the most stupid things we have ever done. It makes me embarrassed to be honest. Its the kind of shit I take the mick out of Liverpool for.
Having slept on it I think its getting worse. This board have fecked up this season and they are trying to blame everyone else but themselves. FFP is far far far worse than all the refs. This is just very depressing at the moment.
Having slept on it I think its getting worse. This board have fecked up this season and they are trying to blame everyone else but themselves. FFP is far far far worse than all the refs. This is just very depressing at the moment.
magicwoand
It tizwas it is
When you say everyone is laughing are you including the thousands if supportive tweets. We’ve had 6 matches since December where incorrect decisions have cost us points SIX. What are the club meant to do? Nothing has worked so far.
Lefkasman
Ian Bowyer
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Fair points mate, good post.
One things for sure though, and that is that it's split the fansbase somewhat, much like the price hikes early in the week.
If you go back to the start of this thread you'll see I fully expected a defeat yesterday and would have been overjoyed with a point because I'm a big believer that when organizations invite negativity on themselves, like with the price hikes, that drags everything down with it, and...again like the Price Hikes....to me that's what this Tweet does.
For me it's the morally and practically right thing to do, but the timing and way it's been handled I think will now see us relegated bar a colossal failure from both Luton and Burnley. We've just painted a target on our back for people in positions of power to shoot at, and I actually think yesterday was a good example of that already occuring.
We "warned the PGMOL that the VAR is a Luton fan before the game...." and look how that turned out....3 penos dismissed. It not only failed to work, it had the complete opposite affect which was intended. Which will probably be the same case with the Tweet.
People will say "it can't get any worse"...like they did when they wanted Vlach in goal for Turner.... but I now expect us to not only get peno decisions given against us, but I'm expecting all the lesser stuff such as free kicks, corners etc. to all fall the oppositions way for each remaining game this season.
Genuinely hope I'm wrong, but I think a more respectful and well timed response could have still taken the PGMOL to task without inviting such kick back. Whether they'd earned that respect or not.
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Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It's only the media that are and keeping their bread well and truly buttered. The actual fan support from other clubs is overwhelming. Maybe you just haven't looked at the replies from people under social media posts but quite a few of us on here have been looking and it's the polar opposite. It's the media trying to push the narrative
MC Plantpot
First Team Squad
I really don’t know what to think of it all tbh. But I just wonder why they (PGMOL) would put themselves in a position to be questioned when they could have just changed the VAR. The potential conflict is there and could just have been avoided.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
I came into the office and everyone is taking the piss. Unanimously neutral fans (my mates) say it’s a stupid statement. I have yet encountered a neutral who believes that statement was the right thing.
Arrogance,pure arrogance.
They genuinely think their refs are world class and don't make any mistakes. So they were expecting a game with no contentious decisions and they could then turn round and say "See,you had nothing to worry about"
Let me direct you to post 1747 of this thread
Post in thread 'Matchday 34 - Everton v Nottingham Forest - „El Fiasco!“ - Sunday, 21st April KO 1:30pm' https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index...unday-21st-april-ko-1-30pm.52108/post-4054550
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Yes but can we talk about football?
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
@Apollo11 i have never mentioned referring corruption though. I don’t think the reffing is corrupt just not working effectively yet. Nor do I think all of the decisions have been black and white. For example the williams one against West Ham and the Reyna one yesterday I thought were dives.