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Matchday 33 - Nottingham Forest v Wolverhampton Wanderers. Saturday, 13th April KO 3:00pm

Forest v Wolves

  • Forest Win - MGW

    Votes: 43 75.4%
  • Wolves Win - Dorus de Vries

    Votes: 2 3.5%
  • Draw - Willy Boly

    Votes: 8 14.0%
  • Dougie Freedman

    Votes: 4 7.0%

  • Total voters
    57

sammy the snake

Jack Armstrong
Ok trying not to talk about the twat in black now....

I liked most of what I saw today, despite missing Elanga we still managed some attacking intent, there were lovely tikky takky passing, some great through passes, goalline clearance header from Murillo, great header from MGW, good goal from Danillo, great to see someone other than MGW taking corners, Rib was only on for a very short period but should be on ahead of for instance Origi. I felt everyone was energetic and really trying. We still got a point and stayed ahead of Luton.

However we had our defensive brainfarts again, Origi's end product is unchanged, a real shame after Wood bust a gut to get there, and we didn't make enough of our chances.

I do still think we are going to make it (after us Forest fans have had numerous heart attacks) but we are going to have to ensure that we score at least 3 goals (if not 4) to make up for our defensive mistakes and the refs mistake (damn I wasn't supposed to mention them anymore)...

Come on Forest, pick yourself up again, play with the same passion and attacking intent and we will stay up...
Agree with all this. Real key for me is every position has improved and looks prem quality

Mistakes are normal, just the frequency of them lol
 

beast85

A. Trialist
Those that have us getting points away to Everton, Burnley & Sheffield United are living in cloud Cuckoo land. We are abysmal away from home. The best we can expect from those games is draws. If we need a win at Burnley on the last day we are goosed.

Thought we played well today but still didn't win. Our decision making at key moments is often poor. Our composure in front of goal is more bad than good. We snatch at, scuff and generally miss hit far to many shots.

I said earlier the game was so frustrating as wolves didn't lay a glove on us yet still scored 2 goals. There 2nd was criminal. Free header and then sels weak punches it straight to them.

Surely the players and staff are aware how embarrassing they are at set pieces. I do not understand how we allow the opposition free headers every single game and do nothing to put it right
 

Thomas

AMERICAN IDIOT
I heard pulled hammy and not too bad is what I heard, hopefully back for the psr derby.

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Forest twitter said he’ll be back in training this week, we’ll most likely see him against Everton.


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Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Well fed with chips, cod and mushy peas, here is my report on today's latest underwhelming game:

Saturday 13th April 2024: Nottingham Forest v Fulham (Premier League; Kick Off 15:00):

Well, after that stunning first half against Fulham, we had a less than stunning run-out against Spurs. So today we welcome Wolves and they and the Forest faithful filled the ground to season-best crowd of 29,609. With April sunshine to warm the players and fans, the game got off to a bisk start, with Forest pressing hard and high, with Wolves playing deep with a 4-5-1 formation, set to contain Forest and to try and catch us on the break.

Initial chances fell to Forest, with Wolves’ defenders on more than one occasion gifting the ball to Forest attackers, only for shots to be hit wide of the target or over the cross bar. Yates got onto one from 25 yards, but like his effort just before half-time at Spurs last week he got no power onto the shot.

It was against the run of play that Wolves’ Brazilian striker, Cunha, opened the scoring on 40 minutes with a well taken solo goal. He collected the ball midway in his own half as Wolves defence cleared a Forest attack. He raced through, with Omobamidele and Yates in hot pursuit, but somehow the striker managed to slip between the 2 defenders from the left, to unleash a fulminating drive that was top corner bound, and unstoppable from Sels’ perspective. Whether Omobamadeli should have committed a professional foul, and whether he and Yates should have dealt with the attacker when he attempted to cut inside are moot points: it was still a powerful run and a class finish. Moments later Yates almost gifted Wolves a second goal, passing straight to a wolves striker who delightedly strode through, smashing the ball past Sels, but to everyone’s amazement Murillo racing back to cover made an amazing goal-line clearance, and the Wolves attacker tapped the ball harmlessly out for a forest goal-kick.

Wolves lead lasted only 5 minutes, and Forest’s equaliser came from a set-piece. A corner was won out on the Forest left, and full-debut-making Reyna placed a delightful ball which MGW, relieved of his corner taking duties, got to, heading down and past the sprawling Jose Sa (who will probably be a bit disappointed not to have done better.

Half time was called, and Forest should have been going in ahead, but having seen several shots miss the target or easily saved by Sa, had to go in with the scores level.

The 2nd half was licked off and was played at a much higher tempo. Forest probed hard, but despite the energy of Williams on the right, and Aina/Hudson-Odoi on the left forest found breaking the lines of a resolute Wolves defence was not easy. It was Gibbs-White powering though the centre who finally was able to burst into the box, but was cleaned out by a foul tackle. Before the ref could award the penalty Danilo, to whom the ball broke kindly, who shot past Sa into the near-post bottom corner.

Forest continued to play the better football, but 5 minutes after taking the lead, we had to defend our first Wolves’ corner. Defending set pieces has been one of our Achilles’ Heels all season, and this one was no better defended. Sels appeared to spill the header from the cross, but that might be a harsh appraisal and it could have been a reaction parry that fell kindly for Cunha, who stabbed home.

Both managers rang the changes, and Forest continued to look the better side, but always looked a bit vulnerable at the back. Substitute Origi, on for Reyna who had a decent full debut, had 2 chances late on. The first saw him juggle the ball inside his marker, but he either lost his footing or was tripped before being able to get his shot away. In the dying seconds of time added on for stoppages, Ribeiro, another late sub, put Origi through on the left. The former Liverpool man cut in and whether it was lack of self-belief, or whether it was a genius pass no one else could read, he prodded the ball along the ground to the far post rather than putting his laces through it to smash it into the net. Either way, there was no shot on goal and the ball drifted out for a goal kick, the ref blowing for time.

Williams and Dominguez had volleyed efforts, with Neco getting his effort on target, but straight at Sa, and Dominguez found the Upper Trent end with his.

Player Ratings:

Sels: 7- couldn’t stop Cunha’s first, but from where I was sat he appeared to be less than on point for Cunha’s second;

Williams: 7- attacked well, and defended when needed, and with a bit of luck, and a cooler head, he might have got himself on the score sheet. His crossing was less accurate than usual;

Omobamidele: 7- I will need to take a look at the highlights on the telly to decide whether he should have done better when tracking back Cunha who went on to score the opening goal, but other than that, Omo acquitted himself well ;

Murillo: 9 – my MOTM! Covered every inch of the pitch, and was unbeatable in the tackle. His goal line clearance is a must-watch for every Forest fan;

Aina: 7- like Williams, but this time on the Forest left, Aina played a solid wing-back role, and linked up well with CHO;

Yates: 6 – a poor shot, a part in allowing Cunha to score the first goal, and nearly gifting them a second goal detracted from Ryan’s overall performance;

Danilo: 8 – crowned a fine midfield performance with a gutsy, well taken goal to put forest ahead;

Hudson-Odoi: 7 – lots of excellent trickery, but he couldn’t get behind his full back, and he found wolves defenders were ready to double team him when he cut inside;

Gibbs-White: 8 – a slowish start, but the goal spurred him on, and his second half performance was sparkling;

Reyna: 7 – some nice passing, and some decent corners made for a decent full debut for the Yank with the Italian name, but he did get caught in possession a few times, and was guilty o pushing a shot wide of the post after Wolves had conceded possession to him on the edge of the box;

Wood: 7 – a very hard working performance, but he didn’t get any clear-cut chances to add to his impressive goal scoring form over the last few weeks.

Substitutions:

Dominguez (on for Yates): 6 – didn’t seem able to really get into the game;

Origi (on for Reyna): 4 – his confidence seems to be at an all-time low. If he had any self-belief, he would have at least got a last seconds shot away, but he didn’t;

Ribeiro (on for Danilo): 6 – only had about 10 minutes but in that time he battled well, and put Origi through on the right with a nicely placed header;

Tavares (on for Aina): 4 – had the same 10 minutes at the end as Ribeiro, and in that time he conceded a needless throw-in deep in our half, gave the ball away twice, and played a long ball down and out on the left side. OK, he’s been out for a while, but it was a less-than auspicious return.

Conclusion: Luton got their expected tonking at Maine Road, and Burnley could only scrape a draw, while the Blunts lost at Brentford. Those results mean Forest are a point clear of Luton, and have a better goal difference of 8. However, we travel to Everton next week who have scored more goals from set pieces than any other team in the Premier League. Our set-piece defending is abject, and Sean Dyche knows that only too well.

Survival remains in our own hands, but our run-in games are tough, unless we can finally put relegation rivals to the sword on their own muck-heaps. And like fine wine, Forest do not seem to travel well.
 

Steve Chettles Brylcream

First Team Squad
An unpopular opinion, but I would argue that some of our defensive frailties and set-piece woes are down to having two very young and inexperienced centre backs. Bombing Niakate was a bad move by NES.
Not quite fair we've been sht at this all season regardless of who we started. Thats a systems failure imo and our inability (refusal) to address it is inexcusable
 

Bonfy177

LTLF MORON
Well fed with chips, cod and mushy peas, here is my report on today's latest underwhelming game:

Saturday 13th April 2024: Nottingham Forest v Fulham (Premier League; Kick Off 15:00):

Well, after that stunning first half against Fulham, we had a less than stunning run-out against Spurs. So today we welcome Wolves and they and the Forest faithful filled the ground to season-best crowd of 29,609. With April sunshine to warm the players and fans, the game got off to a bisk start, with Forest pressing hard and high, with Wolves playing deep with a 4-5-1 formation, set to contain Forest and to try and catch us on the break.

Initial chances fell to Forest, with Wolves’ defenders on more than one occasion gifting the ball to Forest attackers, only for shots to be hit wide of the target or over the cross bar. Yates got onto one from 25 yards, but like his effort just before half-time at Spurs last week he got no power onto the shot.

It was against the run of play that Wolves’ Brazilian striker, Cunha, opened the scoring on 40 minutes with a well taken solo goal. He collected the ball midway in his own half as Wolves defence cleared a Forest attack. He raced through, with Omobamidele and Yates in hot pursuit, but somehow the striker managed to slip between the 2 defenders from the left, to unleash a fulminating drive that was top corner bound, and unstoppable from Sels’ perspective. Whether Omobamadeli should have committed a professional foul, and whether he and Yates should have dealt with the attacker when he attempted to cut inside are moot points: it was still a powerful run and a class finish. Moments later Yates almost gifted Wolves a second goal, passing straight to a wolves striker who delightedly strode through, smashing the ball past Sels, but to everyone’s amazement Murillo racing back to cover made an amazing goal-line clearance, and the Wolves attacker tapped the ball harmlessly out for a forest goal-kick.

Wolves lead lasted only 5 minutes, and Forest’s equaliser came from a set-piece. A corner was won out on the Forest left, and full-debut-making Reyna placed a delightful ball which MGW, relieved of his corner taking duties, got to, heading down and past the sprawling Jose Sa (who will probably be a bit disappointed not to have done better.

Half time was called, and Forest should have been going in ahead, but having seen several shots miss the target or easily saved by Sa, had to go in with the scores level.

The 2nd half was licked off and was played at a much higher tempo. Forest probed hard, but despite the energy of Williams on the right, and Aina/Hudson-Odoi on the left forest found breaking the lines of a resolute Wolves defence was not easy. It was Gibbs-White powering though the centre who finally was able to burst into the box, but was cleaned out by a foul tackle. Before the ref could award the penalty Danilo, to whom the ball broke kindly, who shot past Sa into the near-post bottom corner.

Forest continued to play the better football, but 5 minutes after taking the lead, we had to defend our first Wolves’ corner. Defending set pieces has been one of our Achilles’ Heels all season, and this one was no better defended. Sels appeared to spill the header from the cross, but that might be a harsh appraisal and it could have been a reaction parry that fell kindly for Cunha, who stabbed home.

Both managers rang the changes, and Forest continued to look the better side, but always looked a bit vulnerable at the back. Substitute Origi, on for Reyna who had a decent full debut, had 2 chances late on. The first saw him juggle the ball inside his marker, but he either lost his footing or was tripped before being able to get his shot away. In the dying seconds of time added on for stoppages, Ribeiro, another late sub, put Origi through on the left. The former Liverpool man cut in and whether it was lack of self-belief, or whether it was a genius pass no one else could read, he prodded the ball along the ground to the far post rather than putting his laces through it to smash it into the net. Either way, there was no shot on goal and the ball drifted out for a goal kick, the ref blowing for time.

Williams and Dominguez had volleyed efforts, with Neco getting his effort on target, but straight at Sa, and Dominguez found the Upper Trent end with his.

Player Ratings:

Sels: 7- couldn’t stop Cunha’s first, but from where I was sat he appeared to be less than on point for Cunha’s second;

Williams: 7- attacked well, and defended when needed, and with a bit of luck, and a cooler head, he might have got himself on the score sheet. His crossing was less accurate than usual;

Omobamidele: 7- I will need to take a look at the highlights on the telly to decide whether he should have done better when tracking back Cunha who went on to score the opening goal, but other than that, Omo acquitted himself well ;

Murillo: 9 – my MOTM! Covered every inch of the pitch, and was unbeatable in the tackle. His goal line clearance is a must-watch for every Forest fan;

Aina: 7- like Williams, but this time on the Forest left, Aina played a solid wing-back role, and linked up well with CHO;

Yates: 6 – a poor shot, a part in allowing Cunha to score the first goal, and nearly gifting them a second goal detracted from Ryan’s overall performance;

Danilo: 8 – crowned a fine midfield performance with a gutsy, well taken goal to put forest ahead;

Hudson-Odoi: 7 – lots of excellent trickery, but he couldn’t get behind his full back, and he found wolves defenders were ready to double team him when he cut inside;

Gibbs-White: 8 – a slowish start, but the goal spurred him on, and his second half performance was sparkling;

Reyna: 7 – some nice passing, and some decent corners made for a decent full debut for the Yank with the Italian name, but he did get caught in possession a few times, and was guilty o pushing a shot wide of the post after Wolves had conceded possession to him on the edge of the box;

Wood: 7 – a very hard working performance, but he didn’t get any clear-cut chances to add to his impressive goal scoring form over the last few weeks.

Substitutions:

Dominguez (on for Yates): 6 – didn’t seem able to really get into the game;

Origi (on for Reyna): 4 – his confidence seems to be at an all-time low. If he had any self-belief, he would have at least got a last seconds shot away, but he didn’t;

Ribeiro (on for Danilo): 6 – only had about 10 minutes but in that time he battled well, and put Origi through on the right with a nicely placed header;

Tavares (on for Aina): 4 – had the same 10 minutes at the end as Ribeiro, and in that time he conceded a needless throw-in deep in our half, gave the ball away twice, and played a long ball down and out on the left side. OK, he’s been out for a while, but it was a less-than auspicious return.

Conclusion: Luton got their expected tonking at Maine Road, and Burnley could only scrape a draw, while the Blunts lost at Brentford. Those results mean Forest are a point clear of Luton, and have a better goal difference of 8. However, we travel to Everton next week who have scored more goals from set pieces than any other team in the Premier League. Our set-piece defending is abject, and Sean Dyche knows that only too well.

Survival remains in our own hands, but our run-in games are tough, unless we can finally put relegation rivals to the sword on their own muck-heaps. And like fine wine, Forest do not seem to travel well.
I like the re-jigged format Captain starting with ya bait then the football 👏👏.

Good solid log 👍.
 
We played well, and if we can repeat that without the defensive mistakes against Everton Burnley and Sheff U it should be 7/9 points and almost to safety. Big if, obviously.
This is the fundamental problem - we have been making the same mistakes without redress for over 6 months, if not longer. It has made successfully executing a game plan and winning games nigh-impossible.

It is nothing short of disgraceful that there has been zero improvement in managing set piece situations and balls into the box in the time we have known it was a problem. It's a pretty simple problem to solve, especially at this level. It's a collective failure that everyone needs to take responsibility for, and in my view belies a real lack of professionalism and application from players and staff.

Forgive me if I'm sceptical that it will change in the next five games. I think we will score in every game remaining, but don't think we will win a single one.
 

adam09

Super Koopa
We're a broken record aren't we. So much good play, yet concede from a f***ing corner again and naive for the first goal. Felipe would have pulled Cunha's pants down on halfway and took a yellow.

Origi and CHO with poor mistakes in on goal that are just as bad as any defensive ones in my opinion.

Deflating and another 2 points dropped in a game we should have won. If we go down it's because of these games more than anything else.
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
We're a broken record aren't we. So much good play, yet concede from a f***ing corner again and naive for the first goal. Felipe would have pulled Cunha's pants down on halfway and took a yellow.

Origi and CHO with poor mistakes in on goal that are just as bad as any defensive ones in my opinion.

Deflating and another 2 points dropped in a game we should have won. If we go down it's because of these games more than anything else.
We're not going down.
 

Bonfy177

LTLF MORON
I thought CHO was incredibly ponderous in the first half, and wasteful.

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The lad seems to need a little more belief in himself, there’s a player in there somewhere 🙏.
 

DB1702

Viv Anderson
Those that have us getting points away to Everton, Burnley & Sheffield United are living in cloud Cuckoo land. We are abysmal away from home. The best we can expect from those games is draws. If we need a win at Burnley on the last day we are goosed.

Towards the end of the season games are historically very difficult to predict. I certainly don’t think it’s living in cloud Cuckoo land to suggest we will get some points from those games.

We are more than capable of doing it now will we actually do it - no idea certainly would not be putting money on it.

Last 5 games realistic points total
Everton - 1
City - 0
Sheff Utd - 3
Chelsea - 3
Burnley - 0

I don’t think that’s being too ambitious by the time we play Chelsea half their squad will be thinking about the Euros and others will be in the beach.

That gives us 33 points.


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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
I’m afraid a home draw against an ordinary Wolves side doesn’t cut the mustard in
a desperate relegation battle.
I felt Forest were the better side overall but lacked the conviction to claim 3 vital points.
I feel it’s now 50/50 between us and Luton for the final place in the Championship next year.
Really disappointed tonight.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
What this game has shown me is that the midfield 2 definitely needs to be Danilo and Dominguez. Danilo simply because he's fought his way in and is there on Merit. Probably my MOTM today and as soon as Dominguez came on he showed how much more forward thinking he is. The ball moved quicker and it was more fluid.
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
What this game has shown me is that the midfield 3 definitely needs to be Danilo and Dominguez.

Novel approach to our shit team in not picking eleven players.
 
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