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Ian Bowyer
If we can play like we have second half in our away games we will win games
Matchday 26 - Aston Villa Vs Nottingham Forest. Saturday 24th February. Kick off 3pm.
- Thread starter Alf-engelos Mindminackers
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Statto
Free Kick Specialist
They are another side who has tried to break the big 6 monopoly and will see that there's only so far they can go.
Newcastle and Villa are seeing the same because FFP won't allow the Saudis to put what they can into Newcastle if the club losses can't afford it overall and Brighton will only be able to sell the likes of Mac Allister and also presumably in the future the likes of Ferguson and that other kid they have for big money. Southampton did that for a while and eventually the pot dried up and they couldn't sustain the challenge.
When Leicester did it, it happened at the same time as enough of the top sides not having good seasons and it was a bit of a fluke overall.
I think it's been pretty established that Spurs and City can get into the initial big group (Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea) and even then Arsenal were poor before Wenger and Chelsea used to be a lower half team in the mid 90s before Hoddle managed to get in Gullit and Hughes and then Gullit's spell as manager started them improving before Abramovich bought them. Utd have of course done nothing since Ferguson left.
No-one will break the monopoly because too much has been set against doing it.
It's not too dissimilar from in tennis where the same 5 players cleaned up pretty much all the slams (and getting to the end of them) for a while, which only ended up with them largely getting injured and not being able to compete. Plenty tried to crack the top 10 but couldn't get close but occasionally one did manage a slam semi final or something instead, but it was rare that all of Nadal, Federer, Murray and Djokovic wasn't at it enough at a slam for one to win it (and then there was Stan Wawrinka). This is what we have with Liverpool and City, who cleaned up most of the titles, Spurs and Arsenal have come close but not won anything for a while, Chelsea in 16-7 were the last team not City or Liverpool to win the PL, and only Blackburn and Leicester have won it outside Man U, City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool.
Believe it or not it was 1962-3 the last time the top 3 did not include one of Man U, Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool or Chelsea (Everton 1st, Spurs 2nd, Burnley 3rd). If we exclude Spurs:
Sir John Borlase Warren
First Team Squad
Brighton equalise
Rubics
Bin VAR!
No shame in loosing away to 4th. Brighton equaliser helps - not a disaster today.
rockhopper
Jack Burkitt
A lot of shame in that 1st half performance, it was horrible
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TrickyTree101
First Team Squad
Being beaten 4 -2 still don't think we are that much worse - just bad starting team selection and stupid mistake from defence - but then last season Leeds had similar thoughts where they should have won / drawn lots more games but just did not happen
Malwood
Grenville Morris
Brighton have let everyone down today
BryanRoy22
Bob McKinlay
Villa should be playing in the Champions League next season.
A shame Forest gave away that silly goal at 3-2 because it could have been a more competitive end to the match, but that goal took the steam out of us and Villa controlled the game quite comfortably after that.
A shame Forest gave away that silly goal at 3-2 because it could have been a more competitive end to the match, but that goal took the steam out of us and Villa controlled the game quite comfortably after that.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
No shame, but incredibly frustrating that the manager made such a basic error setting up the defense to flush any real chance we had away of getting points.
oxonred
Viv Anderson
We just seem bent on helping our opponents that lets us down to consistently.
Mcbeth99
Jack Armstrong
?!? So pulling our player down in their box just as he will get the ball is not a foul??!!
chaospunx
Geoff Thomas
Agreed the stupid mistakes are the frustrating part though been the same all year would love to know how many points we have lost to unforced errors
Grass
Jack Burkitt
The fault lies with Nuno for not playing Toff from the start.
He, IMHO, is till a good manager but never ever make that basic mistake again!
He, IMHO, is till a good manager but never ever make that basic mistake again!
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Don't mind us losing to a good team like Villa it's just the manner of the defeat that hurts. First half was so passive and we've just been littered with mistakes all game. Can't expect to win any game of football in the PL when you notch it up like that. Felipe, Murillo, Dominguez and Danilo have all had proper stinkers of a game. Spine of the team had zero spine.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Totted them up a couple weeks ago: we'd be sixth without the big mistakes.
9 minutes added on at Old Trafford with United trailing. Remember when they were losing at ours this season and we had 10 minutes added on.
Malwood
Grenville Morris
Picking Niakhate to play left back was not a basic error. He's played there before lots of times. He just didn't play very well today.
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I'm still here Crewton
My biggest concern today is the manager making such a bad decision at left back.
A really, really strange choice.
A really, really strange choice.
apondaway
Geoff Thomas
I expect Nuno to fall on this one - not sure he managed to his best ability
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
Regretful. If Nuno had played Toffs from the start, we may well have won this.
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Brian Fantana
Geoff Thomas
We’ve managed to net twice again and come out losers.
We shouldn’t have to score 3 or 4 goals to be rescuing a point so often.
Nuno got it wrong today alongside too many players not showing up.
We shouldn’t have to score 3 or 4 goals to be rescuing a point so often.
Nuno got it wrong today alongside too many players not showing up.
chaospunx
Geoff Thomas
Wow I mean all goals are a mistake somewhere but ours this year have been ridiculous
eyupmeduck
Grenville Morris
If there is one thing you can always rely on, its Brighton failing to help us.
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
It really, really was. Just see the score.
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Stuart Pearce
Not too disappointed with that, Villa are a good side
Game was lost in the first half, but second half we showed some fight and looked much better. On another day we get a draw, alas it wasn't to be
Don't want to see Niakhate at LB in a back four again though, he's just not suited there
Either start with the defence we ended with today or start Toffolo there in a back four
Game was lost in the first half, but second half we showed some fight and looked much better. On another day we get a draw, alas it wasn't to be
Don't want to see Niakhate at LB in a back four again though, he's just not suited there
Either start with the defence we ended with today or start Toffolo there in a back four