Lyle James Alfred Taylor

[Listen 'ere young man]

Decent option for the championship, for the premier League I would be looking at someone with better pedigree and experience of the league itself.

 

[Steve Stone's Mullet]

Decent option for the championship, for the premier League I would be looking at someone with better pedigree and experience of the league itself.

I think pedigree and experience is over-rated, personally.

But if we were to go up and had Grabban and Taylor. I think we'd absolutely need someone else.

They'd need to either be a behemoth of a specimen, or a speed merchant imo.

 

[Heffing Psycho!]

Decent option for the championship, for the premier League I would be looking at someone with better pedigree and experience of the league itself.

McGoldrick scored twice against Chelsea yesterday. I think there's an element with goalscorers that it doesn't matter massively which league they're in it's their own personal form and the quality of service they get which is more important, as long as they work hard at the other stuff which Grabban does and Taylor seems to do.

Most of our goals come from crosses under Sab, I'd still like to see us sign a top quality winger who can really whip a cross and contribute with close to 10 goals a season to play on the opposite side to Lolley with Ameobi, Da Costa and Mighten as the competition/backup.

 

[Steve Stone's Mullet]

McGoldrick scored twice against Chelsea yesterday. I think there's an element with goalscorers that it doesn't matter massively which league they're in it's their own personal form and the quality of service they get which is more important, as long as they work hard at the other stuff which Grabban does and Taylor seems to do.

Most of our goals come from crosses under Sab, I'd still like to see us sign a top quality winger who can really whip a cross and contribute with close to 10 goals a season to play on the opposite side to Lolley with Ameobi, Da Costa and Mighten as the competition/backup.

I've noticed in the past few games, Cash and Yuri have both pulled a lot of balls back when wide, which I think is absolutely the best way to go. Sheff Utd score a lot of goals from their wing-backs doing the same.

We just need to get better at someone arriving for them late. as opposed to Grabban having to step backwards for them.

If we were to go up, or even if we don't... someone with raw pace and power is exactly what we need IMO. Who can drive beyond his full-back, and smash it in hard and low/cut back.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

They were McGoldrick's first goals this season in his 26th match, 20 of which he started in.

That's a luxury not many teams will have. Forest's defence might get by in the premier League, but the midfield and forward line definitely needs to be more prolific. We struggle to score 2 goals in the championship, over 52% of the goals being scored by just 2 players. Some proven experience of the premier League will be required and not 30 plus players who are looking for a last paycheck.

 

[Matt]

Not really worried about him bailing on Charlton for the restart in the season. Grabban f**ked Sunderland off in their hour of need but players have to do what is best for them; I’d rather they were up front and honest about it rather than ‘doing it for the fans’ all the time. At least you know where you stand.

 

[Heffing Psycho!]

They were McGoldrick's first goals this season in his 26th match, 20 of which he started in.

That's a luxury not many teams will have. Forest's defence might get by in the premier League, but the midfield and forward line definitely needs to be more prolific. We struggle to score 2 goals in the championship, over 52% of the goals being scored by just 2 players. Some proven experience of the premier League will be required and not 30 plus players who are looking for a last paycheck.

Agree we need to be more creative, like I said I think the service to the striker is perhaps the more important thing.

Problem with looking for a striker with Premier League experience is you're probably paying £15-20m just for that and then it doesn't necessarily mean they're any good. Niasse, Benteke, Tosun etc. all have Prem experience but I'd rather take a punt on someone like Taylor on a free than sign any of them.

 

[Ian Storey Moore]

Smart move on a free

 

[Ashley]

Not really worried about him bailing on Charlton for the restart in the season. Grabban f**ked Sunderland off in their hour of need but players have to do what is best for them; I’d rather they were up front and honest about it rather than ‘doing it for the fans’ all the time. At least you know where you stand.

Grabban wasn't a Sunderland player to be fair, and got the chance to move on loan to a team fighting for promotion.

Taylor refused to play for the club that he was contracted to, the club that helped make him the player he is today. Big difference IMO.

After years of watching some players down tools and steal a living at this club, signing someone like Taylor would be a bitter pill to swallow for me. I actually quite like the current Forest side and it would be a real shame to tarnish that by adding someone who is clearly a bad egg to the squad.

Personally I hope no decent club comes in for him and he ends up dropping down the leagues. Sadly he'll probably get paid £30k or more per week to sit on some parachute payment clubs bench.

 

[Otis Redding]

He certainly has all of the assets required from a striker for this league, and quite possibly as an option for the PL.

He's reportedly a bit of a devisive character, therefore my only question would be his influence in the Forest dressing-room, given the clearly positive spirit that has been fostered in the squad this season.

 

[RichNFFC]

Outstanding performance from him at the CG this season, felt at the time we was trying to impress as we'd already been linked with him. What he did to Charlton was a dick move though and he's always spouting Torie propaganda on Twitter, hope that kind of shit wouldn't disrupt dressing room harmony. Saying that, if another club signed him it would annoy me. If Grabban is injured he'd be a perfect replacement.

 

[Steve Stone's Mullet]

He certainly has all of the assets required from a striker for this league, and quite possibly as an option for the PL.

He's reportedly a bit of a devisive character, therefore my only question would be his influence in the Forest dressing-room, given the clearly positive spirit that has been fostered in the squad this season.

Article online where Neal Ardley talks about him, and says he is someone who needs a lot of love.

 

[Strummer]

He certainly has all of the assets required from a striker for this league, and quite possibly as an option for the PL.

He's reportedly a bit of a devisive character, therefore my only question would be his influence in the Forest dressing-room, given the clearly positive spirit that has been fostered in the squad this season.

Was not Lewis Grabban also spoken of as a divisive character also?

Sabri seems like an excellent man-Manager; Taylor maybe is the kind of player who needs a bit of psychology to deliver results?

 

[Haych]

On a free transfer it would be a great signing, offers us something different as a back up for Grabban or as a partner if we went 2 up top.

Along with Nuno who is looking a good player it would put us in a good place for next season.

 

[Ashley]

He's reportedly a bit of a devisive character, therefore my only question would be his influence in the Forest dressing-room, given the clearly positive spirit that has been fostered in the squad this season.

It's a huge concern for me. The last thing we need is to bring in someone who is going to disrupt the team harmony we have built under Sabri. He could even influence some to follow his example of not being arsed when he doesn't fancy it or doesn't suit him. His attitude is the exact opposite of the kind of character that we should be looking to bring to this club IMO.

 

[Steve Stone's Mullet]

It's a huge concern for me. The last thing we need is to bring in someone who is going to disrupt the team harmony we have built under Sabri. He could even influence some to follow his example of not being arsed when he doesn't fancy it or doesn't suit him. His attitude is the exact opposite of the kind of character that we should be looking to bring to this club IMO.

I've made my feelings clear on what he did at Charlton, but I think it's a bit much to label him as someone who's influence others to act poorly.

I think we do our work on characters, the squad all speak of how unified they are, including the new lads. But also, if he was a rotten egg, I think Sabri would put paid to it.

Bowyer and Ardley both speak well of him.

 

[Otis Redding]

Was not Lewis Grabban also spoken of as a divisive character also?

Sabri seems like an excellent man-Manager; Taylor maybe is the kind of player who needs a bit of psychology to deliver results?

I'd hope he has the built-in, natural desire Chris, but you make a fair point nonetheless.

If it was a choice between him and Diagne, who we've long been linked with, I think I'd prefer Taylor.

 

[MASE]

It's a huge concern for me. The last thing we need is to bring in someone who is going to disrupt the team harmony we have built under Sabri. He could even influence some to follow his example of not being arsed when he doesn't fancy it or doesn't suit him. His attitude is the exact opposite of the kind of character that we should be looking to bring to this club IMO.

Take your point on Taylor, but I think you've got to back the managers obvious talent for bringing a group together.

Theres a ton of knobheads playing pro football, we can't shy away from all of them.

 

[Heffing Psycho!]

I've made my feelings clear on what he did at Charlton, but I think it's a bit much to label him as someone who's influence others to act poorly.

I think we do our work on characters, the squad all speak of how unified they are, including the new lads. But also, if he was a rotten egg, I think Sabri would put paid to it.

Bowyer and Ardley both speak well of him.

Yeah I've never heard of him being trouble before the fact he didn't want to play after the restart. It's basically what Antonio did to us and he was never deemed a bad influence or anything like that.

 

[Ashley]

I've made my feelings clear on what he did at Charlton, but I think it's a bit much to label him as someone who's influence others to act poorly.

I think we do our work on characters, the squad all speak of how unified they are, including the new lads. But also, if he was a rotten egg, I think Sabri would put paid to it.

Bowyer and Ardley both speak well of him.

I think refusing to play for the club that you are contracted to in their hour of need puts any player into 'bad egg' territory for me. I'm pretty sure my colleagues at work would view me as a bad egg too if I turned up for work, refused to do my job and left them in the shit.

He's clearly a good player, but I think signing someone like him is just asking for trouble personally.

 

[Steve Stone's Mullet]

I think refusing to play for the club that you are contracted to in their hour of need puts any player into 'bad egg' territory for me. I'm pretty sure my colleagues at work would view me as a bad egg too if I turned up for work, refused to do my job and left them in the shit.

He's clearly a good player, but I think signing someone like him is just asking for trouble personally.

I don't disagree that it's a shit thing to do. I would lose respect for him as a person off the back of it.

The flip side is, he's at the height of his career, he's probably made a good living, but definitely not seen the mega-riches that a lot of Championship players have done, for being less than average. So this is his opportunity to set him for life. Getting injured in one of the remaining games, when he's had a knee injury already, would completely scupper that.

Would the Charlton owner give him a new contract if he got unlucky and did he ACL this weekend? Not convinced they would.

It's a moral dilemma on both sides I guess.

I'm not aware of any issues around him through his career other than that though, and Bowyer and Ardley both speak well of him. So i'd probably back Sabri's judgement on him if we did go for him.

 

[Ashley]

I'd back him as I would any player who put on a Forest shirt if he did come here (I don't think he will), but I am extremely weary about signing someone who has done what Taylor has to Charlton. Actions speak louder than words, Taylor's actions say a lot more about the kind of person he is than a few kind words from a couple of his former managers IMO.

 

[BryanRoy]

Really had an odd career before he started smacking them in for Wimbledon.

Sheff Utd backed him before that and it didn't work.

 

[BryanRoy22]

Whenever I've watched him, he's looked a real handful.

Knows how to score and is a presence.

I'd definitely be behind this signing. Different type of forward where we could go longer with the ball when the midfield is getting congested, win free kicks, etc.

 

[Danga]

What's Taylor done wrong here exactly?

His contract ran out, he didn't want to sign an extension, what's the issue? He is 30 years old, played mostly in the lower leagues likely on a modest wage, this is likely going to be his last big move where he can cash in a bit.

Players should always look after number one. If he would have done his ACL in these last few games, I doubt the same ones labeling him as a bad egg would be wanting us to take a punt on him on a free this summer...

For what it is worth, I rate Taylor, contrasting skill set to Grabben which we sometimes need. Thumbs up from me if we pull it off.