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Keilor Antonio Navas Gamboa
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Monkman
Grenville Morris
This is a bit harsh, but I do agree there are some rose tinted glasses about both our keepers last year.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Or is it a case of people just having ridiculous expectations of goalkeepers that none are ever good enough?
Look around the Prem every week & there is mistakes left right and centre even from the very best. The World GK of the year came to Forest a few weeks ago and palmed it in his net twice.
Look around the Prem every week & there is mistakes left right and centre even from the very best. The World GK of the year came to Forest a few weeks ago and palmed it in his net twice.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
You could tell Navas was class the first time he saved a shot against Leeds and was back on his feet about 0.0000001 of and second later! At 56 as well. Guy must have been immense in his prime when not rusty.
adam09
Super Koopa
Or perhaps people think our keepers are going to be flawless when even Ederson and Allison have made plenty of mistakes yet they don't have to face half of what our keepers do.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
This was the thing people forgot with Navas, he was a top keeper in his prime, probably the best in the world, so he spent years at Real and then PSV.
Felipe is a good defender, but we needed players like that, in a side which basically went out, defended for their lives, and tried to get the goals on the break away.
But generally in front of him what he did have for us was not a patch on what has happened at most of his club career, though he's Costa Rica's keeper so presumably gets a fair amount of dickings at international level, yet they still qualify for tournaments.
Most of the basics he did extremely well and as a calm head with major experience he was useful last season and we are missing this now.
So there was the odd error like palming saves to opponents but maybe in his other clubs the defenders were more alert to the danger and the 2nd ball than ours were.
If we can't get a better, younger keeper on a permanent in Jan or even on loan I'd seriously be bringing Keylor back at this point
Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.
Fulchester United
Yeah, like Turner's odd error against Liverpool.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Navas was either great or shite, no middle ground. He made plenty of mistakes himself.
Don't think he's the answer to our problems anyway given our problems aren't really in net. Only central midfield needs less fixing in the transfer window than in net. Priority has to be striker, 2x winger, left back as a right sided centre half if Felipe gets injured again.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
The issue is that both the keepers we have aren't really good enough. Vlachodimos won't come for crosses and that he doesn't puts the defence under pressure and ultimately leads to us conceding goals as our mentality is to defend anyway and we aren't yet good enough to sustained attack teams unless they just camp the box and let us. That was easily seen on Saturday when Everton pumped balls in all day and eventually one was sufficiently high to evade all the defenders and fall to someone to get a shot in. Turner's kicking in itself isn't that bad when he gets the time to process it, so really it's something which is erratic under pressure, probably because he has less time to make the decision of what to do. That's potentially something which will get better as he plays more in the PL but potentially also not. Aside from the mistake for Liverpool's 3rd and a couple of occasions where it could have led to pens this hasn't cost us though. But it's clear neither of them are the long term answer.
I agree the striker position is the top priority but in reality how easy is this to fill? Our last attempts have ended up with Taiwo, who is good but has spent a lot of time injured, Wood, and Origi, who enough has been said about, it's also a position you need to spend a lot of money on because most teams won't let their strikers go for smaller fees, and one where a reserve striker from another team won't hit the ground running or potentially be good enough anyway. At the price point we probably have we probably aren't likely to be able to find someone especially considering the first choice striker we brought in probably was worth a lot more. Also Jan market is a lot harder for this.
We probably need 1 winger so we can play with 2 and accounting for the fact one we have is a young lad and the other is talented but often injured. LB we need to send Nuno back but we have Aina who can play there, Toffolo is doing OK even though he's probably not quite good enough, and Neco can play there as well, ideally we need another Aina who can play both sides but we do have plenty of full back options. We are probably fine for CHs but Felipe being injured all season is a concern, if we move on it should be an improvement on McKenna and Worrall really.
Tobias
Jack Burkitt
We've gone from a drink-driving teetotal to a complete car crash in goal.
Please come back, Keylor.
Please come back, Keylor.
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
He has a Hairline Fracture in his Lumbar, he won't be back fit any time soon I don't think.
Henderson is trying to get back fit.
Samba is out in France, killing it still.
Right that leaves.. Costel Pantilimon!? No, wait, he don't like the owners.
Henderson is trying to get back fit.
Samba is out in France, killing it still.
Right that leaves.. Costel Pantilimon!? No, wait, he don't like the owners.
Trents
John Robertson
So, not really linked then?
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
He is back in training this week after coming back from his injury.
Would take him back in a heartbeat & he’s out of contract at the end of the season too.
Would take him back in a heartbeat & he’s out of contract at the end of the season too.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Well he's bound to be linked as he'sSo, not really linked then?
- been here before
- available (not in PSG's side and not injured any more)
and we need a keeper because the ones we have are shite
FBS
Steve Chettle
I'd have him back again.
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Wickio
Robbie Findley
I'd take him as long as we're committed to splashing out in the Summer on a younger, top quality keeper.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Same - it would help us find someone whilst we dont have at least a total liability in goal.
Arguably not, it was "football insider" who posted it. Either way is at least a talking point and something we could look into again.So, not really linked then?
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
There is an element of that and I know you accuse me of being to harsh but Navas is infinitely better than Turner. Every keeper makes mistakes but Turner is rubbish or average at nearly every aspect of goalkeeping. His throwing out is the only thing he excels at. Navas has made mistakes but he has also won points on his own for us where Turner has not.
So it’s not just about mistakes as you make a good point emi Martinez had a shocker against us it’s overall general play.
Des Walker Texas Ranger
First Team Squad
Gets my vote if we need to wait until the Summer to find a long term number one
Yeah, he made a couple of parries that cost goals last season but he’s a very calming presence overall - the polar opposite to Skitty McMisskick and the chaos he is creating at the minute
Maybe six months as an understudy to Navas would do Turner a world of good
Yeah, he made a couple of parries that cost goals last season but he’s a very calming presence overall - the polar opposite to Skitty McMisskick and the chaos he is creating at the minute
Maybe six months as an understudy to Navas would do Turner a world of good
TrickyTree101
Youth Team
The main thing is that he gives the defenders more confidence - can see us losing games as defenders are too scared to pass back to Turner so make mistakes in clearing the ball. He is good enough to see out the rest of the season when we can get a decent replacement and not get ripped off.
oxonred
First Team Squad
Nottingham Forest have opened talks to re-sign Paris Saint-Germain goalkeeper Keylor Navas, sources have told Football Insider.
Would be great if it comes off.
Would be great if it comes off.
Redemption
Chief Eye Roller
Come on guys, there is a transfer thread and a Keylor Navas thread
Let's not litter the site with endless new threads for every 2 bit rumor.