Gaetan Bong

[Rockabilly]

I share your reservations of him Gary, but I can't get my head around the absence of basic rational thought these people display.

It's has though they would accept losing the game rather than not enjoy an opportunity to boo and jeer Bong. I really can't imagine what Steve Cooper thought of it, especially considering his previous positive acknowledgement of the support.

Indeed, and it's embarrassing too.

 

[congo_red_49]

"You see that lad coming on to play left-back mate?"
"That one with the pineapple haircut?"
"Yeah, that one. He puts in a shift but he's not technically very good"
"How can we help him to increase his level of skill?"
"I reckon we should boo him until he becomes a better player."
"Sounds good to me."

"BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

 

[Otis Redding]

Repeat post.

 

[Cloughie1975]

Obviously,all supporters have their favourites,but I'd suggest all the players are supported to the maximum in
a highly competitive league(it's 'all hands on deck' as far as I'm concerned).

 

[Otis Redding]

Obviously,all supporters have their favourites,but I'd suggest all the players are supported to the maximum in
a highly competitive league(it's 'all hands on deck' as far as I'm concerned).

Agreed, but in a situation that couldn't have been more "all hands on deck" required as you rightly put it Cloughie, a very-noticeably vocal section of the crowd decided that it was an appropriate opportunity to boo the introduction of one of their own players. They deserve to be f***ing called-out in the harshest terms.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Personally I don't understand why anyone would boo any of their own players while the result is still to be decided

 

[Cloughie1975]

Personally I don't understand why anyone would boo any of their own players while the result is still to be decided

Even if we're losing 6-0,I don't think booing the players achieves much anyway(it would probably wreck their
already fragile confidence).

 

[Rockabilly]

I only boo the players that prefer to be on the golf course, than pull on the Garibaldi shirt.

 

[Danga]

The f***ing mindless booing during his introduction said more about the cretins who did it than the player - particularly at a time during the game when the team needed the fans' wholehearted support.

A certain, shameless element of our support never fails to disappoint.

I remember the pelters and boo'ing Dan Harding used to get. I am sure I read an article he ended up with mental health issues as he struggled to cope.

Bong isn't good, we all know that, but it also isn't his fault the club gave him a decent contract when he was well past his best. We are going to need him over the next month till January, the fans need to get behind him no matter what.

 

[Otis Redding]

I remember the pelters and boo'ing Dan Harding used to get. I am sure I read an article he ended up with mental health issues as he struggled to cope.

Bong isn't good, we all know that, but it also isn't his fault the club gave him a decent contract when he was well past his best. We are going to need him over the next month till January, the fans need to get behind him no matter what.

I remember that too Kyle. In all likelihood, it was largely many of those who were at it last night.

 

[adam09]

Not sure pointing out some of his poor qualities is making him a scapegoat.

Are people blaming him for us not winning a couple of games? I’ve not seen it.

 

[Otis Redding]

Not sure pointing out some of his poor qualities is making him a scapegoat.

Are you suggesting that those who chose to boo him last night were simply being constructive?

In that case, god help any player who they decide should become a "scapegoat".

 

[adam09]

Are you suggesting that those who chose to boo him last night were simply being constructive?

In that case, god help any player who they decide should become a "scapegoat".

I didn't actually hear any booing. If there was, I think it's disgraceful.

But I think I must have a different definition of the word scapegoat because I don't see people blaming Bong for anything, just pointing out certain weaknesses.

 

[Thomas]

I haven’t blamed him for a game in a long time, I haven’t seen anyone blame him recently either, especially for this game or last game.

He isn’t good enough tho, especially for the wage he’s probably getting. He’s just league 1 level, like Taylor. Both get on my nerves.

Shouldn’t be booed tho, idiots whoever did.

 

[gamble]

His place went to a defensive midfielder - who got sent off, but got around of applause as he left pitch. Bong comes on and gets booed!

Which is ridiculous in both respects, clapping off a player who has needlessly given away a penalty, got sent off and has likely cost you the game is unbelievably stupid.

He didn't have a particularly good game before that either, Im not going to criticise him too much as it's not his position and he doesnt fit the style of wb we use.

The booing of Bong just sums up the intelligence of a minority of our fan base.

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[gamble]

I didn't actually hear any booing. If there was, I think it's disgraceful.

But I think I must have a different definition of the word scapegoat because I don't see people blaming Bong for anything, just pointing out certain weaknesses.

There were a good amount of boos from the TEU sounded like mainly T3 and T4

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[Statto]

I actually think it's a disgrace booing him.

We know he isn't very good but by all accounts he's a good influence in the dressing room and presumably keen to play, also he has presumably been told 2-3 times now he's not needed yet he's been professional, kept himself fit and available in a crisis, it's not like we've heard much of Jenkinson.

I don't actually think he's as bad as people make out either. He has a decent cross, doesn't mind getting forward and has set up a few, his positioning is a bit cack but presumably they can work on that and stop him going too centrally.

Colback being an idiot cost us last night not Bong coming on, though I don't understand why Cooper subbed Taylor for Figs and then brought Bong on.

He's our player and the only fit specialist left back we have so why not support him whilst he's on the pitch?

 

[Dirk Furtull]

There were a good amount of boos from the TEU sounded like mainly T3 and T4

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I'm in the lower TE and didn't really hear much, certainly no one near me booed. I agree it's totally uncalled for, the guy tries his best I've no doubt.
There are a couple who boo the knee thing near me which is equally stupid.

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[redodare]

Gaeten Bong has made 50 odd appearances in the Premier League

Having met him (albeit briefly travelling on a train by himeself to a Forest away game) he's also a modest , gentle character

He's respected by his teammates, and for now the best option we have as a left sided, experienced left back/wing half as we prepare to play a team not that long out of the Premier League.

Surely he deserves support like every one of our team.

What can possibly be gained by booing him?

Hope he proves the haters wrong.

 

[DizzyBala]

I can see both sides to be honest, I don't like Bong as a player, I think he's gash but because he's a forest player, I'm obligated to the team and by proxy him as a player.
I don't want to see him have a bad game so I can further my negative opinion of him, i'd quite like to be proved very wrong by him.

I think Bong at this point is quite similar to Joao Carvalho, in the sense that his contribution or lack thereof is more a symbol of something.
All things considered, both have cost us a f***-ton of money over the past couple years with honestly very little return on that spending.

The Carvalhooooooo chants were used quite a lot in O'Neill and especially in Hughton's time as an act of fans looking for something different. Under Hughton, it seemed like it was geniunely more a case of "this is shit, try something different" than a desire to see the man himself.
Let's face it, if Joao did come on, he'd run around, make a couple passes and the whistle would go.

Now, in Bong's case, is he the worst player ever to play in a Forest Shirt? No. Is he the worst left back we've ever had? No. Hell, is he the worst player we have at the club? No.
But what he is, is a constant reminder that of when we've played badly and really underperformed in the transfer market, spending a lot on players that offer very little.

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

Well said Dizz.

 

[Red Ray's Redlist]

I think some on here underestimate how bad he is based on a few decent crosses.

His positioning isn't something that can be corrected because the reason he tucks in is so he isn't one on one with his winger because when that happens he invariably gets beaten on the outside. It's a safety mechanism for him so he doesn't get embarrassed. But it means we give up our left flank. No team is going to turn down easy balls into the box or a free run to the byline.
When he gets forward he doesn't have the energy to cover, so he meanders back, normally back into the middle oddly and often confusing the whole defensive set up. He's an absolute liability.

I don't agree with booing a player, but maybe some folk feel they need to get a message across to the management that this guy hurts his own team. How else can they do that, write a stern email to the club?

Personally I'd rather see Richardson get a run there in a 5. He played there for Exeter and he's got recovery pace. He might not be good enough but we'd learn something and he can't be as damaging to his own cause as Bong is.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I can see both sides to be honest, I don't like Bong as a player, I think he's gash but because he's a forest player, I'm obligated to the team and by proxy him as a player.
I don't want to see him have a bad game so I can further my negative opinion of him, i'd quite like to be proved very wrong by him.

I think Bong at this point is quite similar to Joao Carvalho, in the sense that his contribution or lack thereof is more a symbol of something.
All things considered, both have cost us a f***-ton of money over the past couple years with honestly very little return on that spending.

The Carvalhooooooo chants were used quite a lot in O'Neill and especially in Hughton's time as an act of fans looking for something different. Under Hughton, it seemed like it was geniunely more a case of "this is shit, try something different" than a desire to see the man himself.
Let's face it, if Joao did come on, he'd run around, make a couple passes and the whistle would go.

Now, in Bong's case, is he the worst player ever to play in a Forest Shirt? No. Is he the worst left back we've ever had? No. Hell, is he the worst player we have at the club? No.
But what he is, is a constant reminder that of when we've played badly and really underperformed in the transfer market, spending a lot on players that offer very little.

Nailed it mate.

Sub-par players who shouldn't have really made it to the club, never mind be costing the club what they have.

And yes, booing them is as self-harming as signing them now they are here.

Hopefully given a few more windows Murphs can erase the memory of some of the worst transfer dealings we've ever made, and the fans can feel more optimistic about more young hungry talent like Ojeda, Spence and Lowe instead.

 

[alabamared]

Are you suggesting that those who chose to boo him last night were simply being constructive?

In that case, god help any player who they decide should become a "scapegoat".

I remember the destruction of Paul Smith.

 

[Master Yates]

I think some on here underestimate how bad he is based on a few decent crosses.

His positioning isn't something that can be corrected because the reason he tucks in is so he isn't one on one with his winger because when that happens he invariably gets beaten on the outside. It's a safety mechanism for him so he doesn't get embarrassed. But it means we give up our left flank. No team is going to turn down easy balls into the box or a free run to the byline.
When he gets forward he doesn't have the energy to cover, so he meanders back, normally back into the middle oddly and often confusing the whole defensive set up. He's an absolute liability.

I don't agree with booing a player, but maybe some folk feel they need to get a message across to the management that this guy hurts his own team. How else can they do that, write a stern email to the club?

Personally I'd rather see Richardson get a run there in a 5. He played there for Exeter and he's got recovery pace. He might not be good enough but we'd learn something and he can't be as damaging to his own cause as Bong is.

This is spot on and really nails down the damage he does when he plays. The misplaced passes and kicking it straight out of play are annoying, but it’s this absolute terror of straying too wide and getting beaten that harms us defensively.

On Tuesday, there were a couple of occasions where instead of facing up Onyedinma, he actually tucked inside McKenna, leaving SMc to leave his position in the centre and act as the full-back. Mental.

Richardson should play there til Colback and Lowe are back, absolutely. I’d even have Jenkinson in there above Bong. He is so bad. Judging by his actions above, he knows he is shot too. Guaranteed he will retire next summer once we release him. We are his pension.

Don’t agree with booing him, mind. He is far and away our worst player though, despite what someone above said. He’s the only one who makes me groan when I see he is playing.


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