Bonfy177
LTLF MORON
Just worked out I could have listened to that crazy duck song back to back 18 times ………instead i wasted my time watching Derby v Exeter
Football was actually shit in the 50s, 60s,70s, 80s
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Rockabilly
GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Quack! f***ing quack!
Bonfy177
LTLF MORON
Aye that’s the one Rocka 
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
Got this World Cup 1970 doc on BBC and it's unbelievable just how bad the standard of play is at times to say it's the pinnacle of the sport, especially the goalkeeping.
JohhnyM
Viv Anderson
Ffs can you find no joy in life?
I’m willing to bet you think Pele was shite, Bobby Moore wasn’t fit to wear the shirt and that you wish England hadn’t qualified in the first place.
Brazil 1970 were possibly the best team in World Cup history; that incredible front-five, a back four with a sweeper, and the lovely interplay, made them fantastic to watch.
And Pelé, pulling the strings wherever he damn well wanted.
And Pelé, pulling the strings wherever he damn well wanted.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
Also,none of the boring continual passing across the back four that many teams (including England) displayed in the recent World Cup with any flair coached out of them.
The players may be super fit athletes in the modern game but that doesn’t make it more entertaining
for me.
Give me the 1970 Brazilians any day of the week.
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valspoodle
Steve Chettle
I live for the day. I watch football for that moment of excitement which happens in the game I'm watching, been watching now for 70 odd years and every season is the best I've seen because it's in front of me now. I've no real interest in saying who was or is the best ever, but I do know that the 1970 World Cup held my interest and had me off my seat so many times.
The Brazilians were extraordinary that year. That's not viewing the TV replays or comparing the players and the pitches today, that's how I felt at the time.
The Brazilians were extraordinary that year. That's not viewing the TV replays or comparing the players and the pitches today, that's how I felt at the time.
Rockabilly
GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
I was privileged to have watched two weeks of the 1970 World Cup in various bars in Cattolica, Italy with my Mum and Dad.
The following year we went to Rimini where stayed at the same hotel as Notts County team, they were on a pre season tour.
The following year we went to Rimini where stayed at the same hotel as Notts County team, they were on a pre season tour.
Your Dad's Ashamed Of You
Viv Anderson
I remember watching 78 on a black and white portable in my Gran's caravan in Skeg!
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Rockabilly
GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Well that's put me in me place.
Funnily enough I watched the 78 World Cup in a caravan in Kessingland, Suffolk...
...in colour.
That Carlos Alberto goal from the 1970 Final is still - IMHO - the best goal scored in any world cup.
The buildup through the entire Brazil team, culminating in an outrageous no-look pass from Pelé to Carlos Alberto, who was steaming into the Italian penalty area like a locomotive; give me that, any day of the week.
The buildup through the entire Brazil team, culminating in an outrageous no-look pass from Pelé to Carlos Alberto, who was steaming into the Italian penalty area like a locomotive; give me that, any day of the week.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
Nah, it's more just as a spectacle the game just looks poorer. Players are unfit and play the game at a walking pace half the time which is partly due to the conditions in Mexico but also due to lack of fitness compared with now.
Keepers let every other shot go through them, players having very little tactical awareness...I mean there are some goals scored where there are literally no defenders about
and then to top it off the best players just get kicked off the pitch half the time.Nobody old enough to have watched it will admit it but when you watch modern football and stuff from that era it's like night and day. Might as well be comparing a different sport.
JohhnyM
Viv Anderson
So what’s your f***ing point? Should we consign all footage pre-2020 to the dustbin? Are old men not allowed to reminisce about fond memories? Was Pele not the footballing genius that millions the world over think he was? Are you so much better because you watch a game played with very different rules than were in force 50 years ago?Nah, it's more just as a spectacle the game just looks poorer. Players are unfit and play the game at a walking pace half the time which is partly due to the conditions in Mexico but also due to lack of fitness compared with now.
Keepers let every other shot go through them, players having very little tactical awareness...I mean there are some goals scored where there are literally no defenders about
Nobody old enough to have watched it will admit it but when you watch modern football and stuff from that era it's like night and day. Might as well be comparing a different sport.
Of course it was f***ing different; it was 50 years ago and everything has moved on! Pitches are better; players are bigger, stronger, faster; the balls, boots, and kits are better; the nutrition and recovery is better; the tv production is better; yadda, yadda, yadda. That doesn’t just apply to football either - it applies to everything in life, and I’m astonished that you hadn’t realised that.
But the point is it was magic at the time: and in anyone’s money the skills on show were brilliant and the entertainment was the very best in its day, despite every negative you can desperately pull out of your endlessly negative bag of needless negativity. In fact considering all your criticism it makes what they did even more noteworthy.
I expect there was somebody in 1970 who sneered at old black and white footage and said that was shite compared to 1970, because he didn’t realise that everything moves on.
And I expect there will be somebody in 2070 who looks back and sneers at today’s football and says that was shite because everything is so much better in 2070, and says Messi was a bag of shite in the same way you suggest Pele and his generation were shite.
In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if you think Messi is shite even now because that’s just how you roll.
We now all know that you think that everything that has happened was shite, everything that might happen will be shite, and everything that will happen will be shite, so there’s no need to keep sharing your shite with the rest of us.
Hungry Horace
First Team Squad
Nah, it's more just as a spectacle the game just looks poorer. Players are unfit and play the game at a walking pace half the time which is partly due to the conditions in Mexico but also due to lack of fitness compared with now.
Keepers let every other shot go through them, players having very little tactical awareness...I mean there are some goals scored where there are literally no defenders aboutand then to top it off the best players just get kicked off the pitch half the time.
Nobody old enough to have watched it will admit it but when you watch modern football and stuff from that era it's like night and day. Might as well be comparing a different sport.
and then to top it off the best players just get kicked off the pitch half the time.Check out Pele’s “Greatest World Cup Goals” video on BBC Sport, featuring a tap in and one which goes through the keeper’s hands for evidence! As great as he obviously was, when you look at the old footage it does look bad at times.
Pele: Brazil legend's best World Cup goals https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/63848047
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valspoodle
Steve Chettle
Watched the Blackburn game the other day and the commentators were going on about the Ewood Park pitch as if it was ankle deep in mud and covered in snow! They were going on alarming about how difficult it was to control the ball etc. Whilst to me it looked a very tidy pitch on which to play.
The players these days have pitches that a billiard table smooth and hard and balls that are, apparently, aerodynamically tested, so they should be better at control and passing etc. Plus the oldies invented the things that we now take for granted, eg the Cruyff turn. Those heavy pitches were stamina sapping, also try heading one of those heavy leather balls when wet, and there were no subs for many years, then when the authorities relented after a run of injuries during the Cup Finals in the 50s (including the Roy Dwight broken leg in '59) you only had one sub allowed on proof of injury to a player already on the pitch. It wasn't all strawberries and cream in those far off days, just waltzing around at the speed of an OAP whilst collecting a million pounds a month.
The players these days have pitches that a billiard table smooth and hard and balls that are, apparently, aerodynamically tested, so they should be better at control and passing etc. Plus the oldies invented the things that we now take for granted, eg the Cruyff turn. Those heavy pitches were stamina sapping, also try heading one of those heavy leather balls when wet, and there were no subs for many years, then when the authorities relented after a run of injuries during the Cup Finals in the 50s (including the Roy Dwight broken leg in '59) you only had one sub allowed on proof of injury to a player already on the pitch. It wasn't all strawberries and cream in those far off days, just waltzing around at the speed of an OAP whilst collecting a million pounds a month.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
Calm down duck, it's only my viewpoint. No need to get so angry about it.
Morpeth
John Robertson
Yeezy, your viewpoint is known and is obviously tedious to the vast majority. At some point in life you’re going to have to change tactic and understand that how you go on is just a bit annoying.
Half the time I think you’re someone like Crewton but playing a better wind up game.
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
Not half as tedious as every other thread becoming a nostalgia circle-jerk for calloused old men.
Morpeth
John Robertson
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
Hungry Horace
First Team Squad
Would be fascinating to see a muddy pitch of the seventies or before and heavy leather balls soaked with water and see how the modern stars get on.
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Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
Exactly my point...
The standard is just lower and when you look back through modern eyes it looks pants at times. Obviously if you were brought up with rationing and getting caned by a teacher for daring to speak though I'm sure Mexico 70 on a colour portable was amazing.
Battered Sausage
Matchday Squad
The thought of a calloused circle jerk has my winkle shrinking inside like a cold day.
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Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
Modern day players have it easy as the ball and boots do all the work. You just know Messi would not have stood a bloody chance playing with a Telstar or Tango in a pair 'Kings' or 'Copa Mundials'.
Same in my trade. I was a brilliant standout carpenter before the introduction of the chopsaw. Now, every man and his dog can fit a roof.
Same in my trade. I was a brilliant standout carpenter before the introduction of the chopsaw. Now, every man and his dog can fit a roof.