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Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion

Lady Penelope

First Team Squad
I have just three things to say.

1 Bugger (re the result of the appeal, although I am not surprised)
2 The EPL again demonstrate that they are a shambles by the way this has been handled / timing of announcements, and more
3 The most important thing is a question for the football club: how the actual f**k did we end up in this situation? This makes me very cross.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
I have just three things to say.

1 Bugger (re the result of the appeal, although I am not surprised)
2 The EPL again demonstrate that they are a shambles by the way this has been handled / timing of announcements, and more
3 The most important thing is a question for the football club: how the actual f**k did we end up in this situation? This makes me very cross.
Hopefully we'll get some answers to that from the Forest statement. Now the appeal is over I don't think we'll see as much diplomacy and more details revealed.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Hopefully we'll get some answers to that from the Forest statement.
The Forest Statement:

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PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
Hopefully we'll get some answers to that from the Forest statement. Now the appeal is over I don't think we'll see as much diplomacy and more details revealed.
I don't see EM taking this lying down.
We should just concentrate on beating Chelsea - difficult but doable & it might not even be necessary.
 

IvorThirst

Youth Team
Leicester will be watching this carefully, once they have their points deduction next season they know that an appeal is a long shot. They have also employed our Nick as their silk
 

bearwood red

A. Trialist
My final comments on all this PSR stuff, because I’m bored of reading all the misinformed nonsense by people who haven’t got a clue what they’re talking about.

1. This is a pseudo-legal process, conducted by experienced KCs, independent of the PL.
2. Their only concern (rightly) is whether the PL’s rules, that all 20 teams signed up to, have been followed. Whether those rules are fair or not is not their concern.
3. We breached the rules and did not have a compelling enough case to convince the original commission that we were not culpable for that breach.
4. We also, not that surprisingly, were unable to demonstrate to the panel that the original commission were flawed in any of their judgements (compare with Everton appeal where they pointed out that their sanction was higher than you get for administration)
4. Given the lack of structured rules on penalties, precedent from previous cases is key. Therefore, they will have wanted to make sure the wording of the written reasons is completely watertight before publishing.
5. Point 4 is probably why it has taken so long - it has nothing to do with corruption, the PL hating us, or Sky wanting an exciting end to the season. It just takes time to draft and review the written reasons. Spouting these conspiracy theories just makes us sound stupid and pathetic.
6. The Manchester City case is way, way bigger and more complicated. It threatens to re-write the last 15 years of the Premier League, came to light because of illegally obtained information (wiki leaks) and probably has geopolitical implications as well. It is no wonder it is taking a long time, but I’m confident the truth will come out eventually, they will be punished, and it is likely to be big.
7. The whole PSR regime is unfair and biased in favour of the big clubs. And the enforcement regime is a complete mess. Both need a complete rethink to provide a better balance between protecting supporters from reckless owners and ensuring fair competition. Protecting the status of the big clubs should not be the objective or the consequence of the regulations.

That’s it. I’m done.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
Fair one.

Fcuk the lot of them now. I hope the club are very verbal and aggressive towards the PL and PGMOL. Call them all out.
Well EM isn't allowed to spend his own money putting capital into the club for players anymore and he's probably the sort to think f**k it I'll spend a few quid on fines telling everyone how it is publicly instead.
 

YouReds43

First Team Squad
Leicester will be watching this carefully, once they have their points deduction next season they know that an appeal is a long shot. They have also employed our Nick as their silk
I think Leicester are screwed. 50/60m breach, legal action against the PL won't help.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
My final comments on all this PSR stuff, because I’m bored of reading all the misinformed nonsense by people who haven’t got a clue what they’re talking about.

1. This is a pseudo-legal process, conducted by experienced KCs, independent of the PL.
2. Their only concern (rightly) is whether the PL’s rules, that all 20 teams signed up to, have been followed. Whether those rules are fair or not is not their concern.
3. We breached the rules and did not have a compelling enough case to convince the original commission that we were not culpable for that breach.
4. We also, not that surprisingly, were unable to demonstrate to the panel that the original commission were flawed in any of their judgements (compare with Everton appeal where they pointed out that their sanction was higher than you get for administration)
4. Given the lack of structured rules on penalties, precedent from previous cases is key. Therefore, they will have wanted to make sure the wording of the written reasons is completely watertight before publishing.
5. Point 4 is probably why it has taken so long - it has nothing to do with corruption, the PL hating us, or Sky wanting an exciting end to the season. It just takes time to draft and review the written reasons. Spouting these conspiracy theories just makes us sound stupid and pathetic.
6. The Manchester City case is way, way bigger and more complicated. It threatens to re-write the last 15 years of the Premier League, came to light because of illegally obtained information (wiki leaks) and probably has geopolitical implications as well. It is no wonder it is taking a long time, but I’m confident the truth will come out eventually, they will be punished, and it is likely to be big.
7. The whole PSR regime is unfair and biased in favour of the big clubs. And the enforcement regime is a complete mess. Both need a complete rethink to provide a better balance between protecting supporters from reckless owners and ensuring fair competition. Protecting the status of the big clubs should not be the objective or the consequence of the regulations.

That’s it. I’m done.

You contradict yourself somewhat in saying that any conspiracy is nonsense and that there is no corruption by also stating that you believe there is bias towards the big clubs with the PSR structure. So you believe there can only be bias in one area but think it's nonsense to believe there is any bias in another?
 

YouReds43

First Team Squad
Sadly Ipswich will probably find that they will be too when PSR hits for the year of allowable losses hits for their league 1 season. Either that or they spend nothing and potentially go back down, probably being worse than Sheff Utd.
McKenna said as soon as the game finished, enjoy the moment but a lot of work is needed in the Summer.
 

youreds1986

Geoff Thomas
My final comments on all this PSR stuff, because I’m bored of reading all the misinformed nonsense by people who haven’t got a clue what they’re talking about.

1. This is a pseudo-legal process, conducted by experienced KCs, independent of the PL.
2. Their only concern (rightly) is whether the PL’s rules, that all 20 teams signed up to, have been followed. Whether those rules are fair or not is not their concern.
3. We breached the rules and did not have a compelling enough case to convince the original commission that we were not culpable for that breach.
4. We also, not that surprisingly, were unable to demonstrate to the panel that the original commission were flawed in any of their judgements (compare with Everton appeal where they pointed out that their sanction was higher than you get for administration)
4. Given the lack of structured rules on penalties, precedent from previous cases is key. Therefore, they will have wanted to make sure the wording of the written reasons is completely watertight before publishing.
5. Point 4 is probably why it has taken so long - it has nothing to do with corruption, the PL hating us, or Sky wanting an exciting end to the season. It just takes time to draft and review the written reasons. Spouting these conspiracy theories just makes us sound stupid and pathetic.
6. The Manchester City case is way, way bigger and more complicated. It threatens to re-write the last 15 years of the Premier League, came to light because of illegally obtained information (wiki leaks) and probably has geopolitical implications as well. It is no wonder it is taking a long time, but I’m confident the truth will come out eventually, they will be punished, and it is likely to be big.
7. The whole PSR regime is unfair and biased in favour of the big clubs. And the enforcement regime is a complete mess. Both need a complete rethink to provide a better balance between protecting supporters from reckless owners and ensuring fair competition. Protecting the status of the big clubs should not be the objective or the consequence of the regulations.

That’s it. I’m done.
Don't be coming in here with your logic, facts and reasoning.

THE PL HATE US!!!!
 

bearwood red

A. Trialist
You contradict yourself somewhat in saying that any conspiracy is nonsense and that there is no corruption by also stating that you believe there is bias towards the big clubs with the PSR structure. So you believe there can only be bias in one area but think it's nonsense to believe there is any bias in another?
No contradiction. Look up the meaning of conspiracy and bias.
 
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