Steve B
Jack Armstrong
if we somehow survive this season I’m taking a massive inflatable Marinakis to the last game.
Best start inflating it now.if we somehow survive this season I’m taking a massive inflatable Marinakis to the last game.
So all of these losses that he has covered for the last 7 years - has the magic fairy covered all of this?
Oh aye...…And project this onto the side of EPL and PGMOL HQ’s
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Depends on the exact conflict. If the EPL had given us an indication, at some point that the bonuses wouldn't count, but then told us they would at some later point, after we'd planned for them not counting, then we'd have been mislead and have every right to put out the sort of statement that we did.
Just one possible scenario - but none of us know what actually happened.
You are playing with words
Buying / investing
I don't think we'll ever really know what happened, there's probably Non-Disclosure agreements and what-not in place, that would limit what could be explicitly mentioned.Given the strength of the club statement, and that the above wasn't explicitly mentioned, I'm not sure it was the case.
So EM didn't pay for Grabban, Samba or Surridge? And he didn't cover the wages of Colback and the likes?but then I go back to my point that barely any of those players acquired under that spending spree actually formed part of the squad that got us promoted.
This.Roll on Palace at home so folk can whinge about the actual football instead of the off the pitch stuff.
Life size or bigger in proportion?if we somehow survive this season I’m taking a massive inflatable Marinakis to the last game.
I fully understand - but do you?And no, I'm not playing with words.
You are trying to paint a picture that £100m of Marinakis' money invested directly into the running of the club has got us promotion.
That is demonstrably not true.
£50m was to buy the asset of which £0 of that money went into improving the playing squad. An additional £50m of capital injection into the operational running of the club. You can claim £50m max, but then I go back to my point that barely any of those players acquired under that spending spree actually formed part of the squad that got us promoted.
Same logic buying a house. Your initial purchase might go up in value but you're not responsible for market changes, only any home improvements you make.
As a self-described ex-director the phrasing I'm using shouldn't be hard to understand.
Bloody Nora!bigger in proportion?
I covered that on the last page.So EM didn't pay for Grabban, Samba or Surridge? And he didn't cover the wages of Colback and the likes?
You win some, you lose some.
Who is going to cough up £350m for Forest?I fully understand - but do you?
Your words not mine -
He spent £50m to buy the asset = £50m spend
He spent £50m on a capital injection for operational running
He spent £50 max on the players - irrespective of if the players were part of the promotion squad - he spent it
He has continued to fund the club by writing off debts/transferring to shares etc.
This is all money that he has invested in the club.
I would argue that the initial £50m purchase and the subsequent investments have paid off.
Newcastle were sold for circa £250m 2 years ago - Forest are currently valued at around £350m.
A sound investment by a highly successful and highly respected business man - except for people like you of course.
and.. if you are going to do your research on me - please do it correctly.
I am not a self-described ex director.
I am am a self described ex company owner - I am an still a non executive Director.
I invested my time and money in a company and sold on the investment - it's called business
I fully understand
Hopefully no-one because EM will continue to be our owner for many years.Who is going to cough up £350m for Forest?
Remember, we are not allowed to buy any decent players, we have a salary cap at 85% of turnover, and parachute payments are being phased out.
The market has shifted.
In the cliched words of someone wiser than me: "how do I make a small fortune owning a football team that is not "big 6"? The answer is... start with a big fortune.
your prerogativeI don't think you do, or if you do your deliberately ignoring the point as it doesn't suit your side of the argument.
"This is all money that he has invested in the club" = False.
"This is all money that he has invested." = True
Nuance is important.
The problem here is, for their approach to change, they have to absolutely accept that their approach was wrong, and that there is some liability there for the current issues surrounding the team, and the underlying business.The question for me is, what will it take for this approach to change? Because it absolutely has to