Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Some workings out from Maguire
true point and if it's any of Leics, Southampton and Leeds of their PSR 3 year rolling period they will have a EFL year too.They're just nobbling the likely promoted teams before they get promoted..
So am I but as i said the other day on that one, if the EPL did it, we'd see more of the likes of Kane and Bellingham going off to play in other European leagues, because if the likes of Newcastle, City, Arsenal can't pay a player what he wants because of a salary cap, he will go to a club who can.I tend to agree-but the level of debt in football is ridiculous.
If handing out points deductions brings about a reduction in players and agent payments then
that is something positive to emerge from this fiasco.
I’m all for a salary cap though.
Hadn’t realised actually that Ipswich have been out of the PL nearly as long as we were.true point and if it's any of Leics, Southampton and Leeds of their PSR 3 year rolling period they will have a EFL year too.
Ipswich, of course, will be similar to us and Luton.
Ipswich would actually be completely different as one of their years would be under League One's salary cost rules. God knows how that affects their overall PSR if they were in different leagues each year!true point and if it's any of Leics, Southampton and Leeds of their PSR 3 year rolling period they will have a EFL year too.
Ipswich, of course, will be similar to us and Luton.
Nick De Marco gets around the clubs. Sheffield United now.
Well it'd be less wouldn't it, they'd have 1 year at each of L1, CH and PL and the L1 limit would be even less than the CH one.Ipswich would actually be completely different as one of their years would be under League One's salary cost rules. God knows how that affects their overall PSR if they were in different leagues each year!
Erm-Manchester City want a word.Highest paid man in the Premier League.
He’d probably jump at it if it made Forest more competitive (and reduced the amount heDoes Marinakis want to own a club that has salary caps, etc?
The problem there is, a Global Salary Cap stands no chance of really working, because of the financial disparity of various countries, especially those outside of Europe.So am I but as i said the other day on that one, if the EPL did it, we'd see more of the likes of Kane and Bellingham going off to play in other European leagues, because if the likes of Newcastle, City, Arsenal can't pay a player what he wants because of a salary cap, he will go to a club who can.
Likewise, if it was a UEFA salary cap, then that wouldn't stop players swanning off to tinpot rich leagues like Saudi, UAE, Qatar...
It'd need to be global to stand any chance of working.
We already see this kind of talent drain with the MLS, which is a closed shop anyway, and from whence any player with some talent to make it as a reserve in a UEFA league (See also: Matt Turner) can rack up a load of appearances in the MLS then leave and do basically nothing for more money whilst piggy backing on the new club's achievements.
We can't know, but I suspect it's the other way around. A salary cap limits his ability to throw money at the problem to gain a competitive edge.He’d probably jump at it if it made Forest more competitive (and reduced the amount he
pumps in to keep the club afloat).
Yes but League One is a salary cap so doesn't fit in with looking at three years rolling PSR loses.Well it'd be less wouldn't it, they'd have 1 year at each of L1, CH and PL and the L1 limit would be even less than the CH one.
But only 1 year of PL limits still
Possibly,but ask yourself the question-was English football any the poorer with the 1st DivisionWe can't know, but I suspect it's the other way around. A salary cap limits his ability to throw money at the problem to gain a competitive edge.
Additionally, a salary Cap in the EPL but no where else in Europe means one of the other leagues would quickly displace the EPL.as 'the best league in the world' because players will go where the $ is. Marinakis would want a team that excels in that league.
I'm not discussing what I want but what I think Marinakis wants.Possibly,but ask yourself the question-was English football any the poorer with the 1st Division
before the Premier League/Sky takeover allowed the game to be flooded with overpaid foreign
mercenaries and (in some cases) dubious owners?
But then for Ipswich, how would that even work? Because the rules for L1 are different to the Championship, and if a team goes L1->Champ->Premier League within that three-year period, then it just isn’t going to work at all, is it?Yes but League One is a salary cap so doesn't fit in with looking at three years rolling PSR loses.
Apart from players wages-the disparity in finances between the Premier League and the EFLBut then for Ipswich, how would that even work? Because the rules for L1 are different to the Championship, and if a team goes L1->Champ->Premier League within that three-year period, then it just isn’t going to work at all, is it?
It is almost like the Premier League rules are a complete and utter load of bollocks, that don‘t take into account reality, or anything?
(or the prospect of a club „doing an Ipswich“ and going from League One to the top flight within three seasons).
Will start to reflect what the egg chasers are experiencing. Salary caps in the Premiership have resulted in a mass exodus of English players to France - with the effect ( due to a ridiculous restriction enforced by the RFU ) that the England team are shorn of half their first choice XV.So am I but as i said the other day on that one, if the EPL did it, we'd see more of the likes of Kane and Bellingham going off to play in other European leagues, because if the likes of Newcastle, City, Arsenal can't pay a player what he wants because of a salary cap, he will go to a club who can.
Likewise, if it was a UEFA salary cap, then that wouldn't stop players swanning off to tinpot rich leagues like Saudi, UAE, Qatar...
It'd need to be global to stand any chance of working.
We already see this kind of talent drain with the MLS, which is a closed shop anyway, and from whence any player with some talent to make it as a reserve in a UEFA league (See also: Matt Turner) can rack up a load of appearances in the MLS then leave and do basically nothing for more money whilst piggy backing on the new club's achievements.
Apart from players wages-the disparity in finances between the Premier League and the EFL
is one of the main problems in English football.
That's our FFP for next year screwed then.Highest paid man in the Premier League.
Well League One you can lose what you like provided wages are an allowable percentage of turnover so you couldn't really include that in PSRBut then for Ipswich, how would that even work? Because the rules for L1 are different to the Championship, and if a team goes L1->Champ->Premier League within that three-year period, then it just isn’t going to work at all, is it?
It is almost like the Premier League rules are a complete and utter load of bollocks, that don‘t take into account reality, or anything?
(or the prospect of a club „doing an Ipswich“ and going from League One to the top flight within three seasons).
With senior clubs going bust in Rugby Union (3 at the last count I think) and others deep inWill start to reflect what the egg chasers are experiencing. Salary caps in the Premiership have resulted in a mass exodus of English players to France - with the effect ( due to a ridiculous restriction enforced by the RFU ) that the England team are shorn of half their first choice XV.
Tell me about it Cloughie.With senior clubs going bust in Rugby Union (3 at the last count I think) and others deep in
trouble then I’d argue a salary cap is just what they need (a Leicester Tigers friend of mine
is giving up his season ticket due to the excessive price rise next season-presumably because
the club are paying the players too much).
The same with football-if we’re not the ‘best/contrived league in the world’ who f***ing cares?
Apart from the TV companies and plastic fans of course.
It’s quite simple they don’t want a regulator telling them how to conduct their business. I think what you are saying is far too conspiratorial.The question I have is why are the Premier League so desperate not to have the new independent commission? Surely they would be ecstatic at having the opportunity for these sorts of issues resolved externally and being able to have the accusations of bias taken away?
That takes me back to the original question, why don't they want them. Is there something that the Premier League are afraid of being uncovered? Something to hide? It really does make me wonder?