Mr. Clough, as it is well known, was himself a prominent socialist.Seems like the club is not taking the subtle route with its expressions of how it feels about the EPL.
How does it end though?
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Financial Fair Play (FFP)
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
You clearly don't know me very well.
That would be but a warm up for me. In reality, it will be far, far worse
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Is that a chapel hatpeg I espy?
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
I always have good things to say about Forest - it's why I've been accused of being a happy clapper in the past. However, none of them would be relevant in this thread.No problem mate, just putting it out there
Anyway, has anyone got anything good to say about anything to do with Forest?
Project Zeus
Steve Chettle
We've become such a crybaby victim club. We have been for a few years now, IMO.
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Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Scousers of the East midlands, that's us.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
We all laughed at Everton fans' reaction when they got their points deduction but ours have been just as bad over the last few days IMO
The club have said their piece, and I know it would've been Old Big 'Ed's birthday today, but posting stuff like that just makes us look like sore whingers
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
I know probably everyone did but I had a massive thing for Wilma when I were a lad
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
With a fanbase to match
"Oh look at us in the top flight with a terrible bad owner, I wish we were Accrington Stanley"
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Wait a sec....that explains it all now!!
Marinakis has achieved his goal brilliantly, we just misunderstood it due to it being lost in translation. It's obvious now that when he said he was going to make us "Winners", he was misquoted and meant "Whingers".
Well played Evangelos, well played.
YellowBelly Red
Viv Anderson
"Who are they"?With a fanbase to match
"Oh look at us in the top flight with a terrible bad owner, I wish we Accrington Stanley"
One for the older readers!
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
EEEEEXXXXXXXXXAAAAAKKKKLEEEEEEEEE
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
Non of them are relevant in the match day threads at the minute either!
Given that the panel is supposedly independent of the Premier League (but set up BY the premier League), the PL ought not to be allowed to appeal, as doing so says "you're independent of us but we want you to do what we say".
Since NFFC had nothing to do with the setup of said panel, the right of appeal should rest with NFFC alone.
Lady Penelope
First Team Squad
I have to assume that they bought players on the basis that they would appreciate in value, or in the case of Hwang, because they were cheap as Bordeaux were having a fire sale (so they didn't fall foul of French FFP). Unfortunately, Hwang, Bowler and Panzo have not pulled in buyers and so, aside from loan fees, we are stuck. Simply put, a nice idea but some bad choices were made, as is the case with every club and their transfer activity.
We've made some splendidly good decisions though. Murillo, Danilo, MGW, Elanga, Dominguez, perhaps even CHO. We've also taken a lot of loans which have been duff!
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
I thought Derby had already claimed that title.
enlightened
First Team Squad
It may be incompetence (it wouldn't be a massive surprise), it may be the opacity of the EPL rules, it may be a genuine misunderstanding. It may also be a calculated gamble and that wouldn't be a massive surprise to me either. Who knows what went on behind closed doors? Anything that comes out from the club at this point is looking to reduce, or at the very least show our displeasure at, the penalty we received and the ridiculous unfairness of the rules. We're never going to admit that we tried to play the system - even if we did.
If that IS what we did them I don't blame them and I'm fine with it. There was a fair degree of optimism amongst the fans, here and elsewhere, that if we survived the first season it would be more plain sailing after that and we would push on towards mid-table. That wasn't such a stretch.
My anger (and I'm angry) is levelled entirely at an organisation which essentially exists to administer a 'competition' but whose rules are blatantly anti-competitive. This HAS to change. The bottom 10 clubs in the EPL need to all grow a pair and make a stand.
My anger is also levelled at an organisation that has made some spectacular errors in officiating on the pitch this season but has no accountability or method to rectify them. When the monetary value of a Premiership point is as high as it is now they have to do better.
Our club isn't perfect - I'll guarantee that - but football at this level is so fundamentally flawed that I'll cut the management some slack. I'm grateful we have someone like EM who is prepared to back this club and I don't think he gets enough credit for that. Especially when the odds of success are so heavily stacked against him.
I still have a massive thing for Wilma, even now.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Fired as chairman, but retained as a director so that EM doesn't lose control over what NR comes out with.I'm not sure fired is the correct term, as he remains a Director. He was definitely demoted, removed from role or whatever other term fits though.
That's how I dress it up
Problem is, the „bottom ten clubs of the Premier League“ are almost an irrelevance, as they are entirely replaceable, and they know it, and so does the Premier League, because there are 20-odd teams in the Championship and probably another half dozen in League One who would bend over and do exactly what the Premier League wants, just for the chance of a season or two of Premier League money.
This is why when most PL decisions require a 14-club majority, the „rump“ clubs almost never act together in their own interests, to reign-in the „big six“.
What sells the Premier League is the (artificial) appeal of this supposed „big six“ and whoever they are playing this week, not the „small clubs“ as Richard Masters would have it.
We did, but unfortunately the imaginary shirts we made were all of the wrong size so we had to give a refund.
enlightened
First Team Squad
That's why I said they had to 'grow a pair'. It's a similar situation in the political arena. People need to start to vote for the long-term rather than for what selfishly benefits them.
The sooner the 'Big-6' sod-off to a 'Super League' the better.
I am sorry but I don't agree with some of these comments, We are not victims, If anything it has brought most of our divided fanbase to unite once again, Most Forest fans accept the punishment, it may have been too light or too heavy, If Forest appeal after legal advice I back it if not I back the players to do the job on the field and stay up. Yes Marinakis deserves criticism but he also has gained a lot of credit, He may be unorthodox in some of his ways but everyone can be. We are lucky too have him and I hope he is here for long term, We have never seen Forest being backed like this before.
Everton, Luton, Wolves fans seem more annoyed about our punishment then we do.
Can't wait for 3PM on the 30th March, to support the Players and Nuno, Nuno who has been getting a lot of criticism that has been over the top recently, can you imagine coming into a job win 2 in a row and then a couple weeks later we have been charged for breaching PSR, No, imagine how much pressure he may feel he is under. With Clarity I hope to see improved results and too be safe.
Everton, Luton, Wolves fans seem more annoyed about our punishment then we do.
Can't wait for 3PM on the 30th March, to support the Players and Nuno, Nuno who has been getting a lot of criticism that has been over the top recently, can you imagine coming into a job win 2 in a row and then a couple weeks later we have been charged for breaching PSR, No, imagine how much pressure he may feel he is under. With Clarity I hope to see improved results and too be safe.
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
Amen, enlightened brother.