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Redemption

One less gobshite...

Green Jumper

"Nottingham Forest Are Premier League"
I'll very grudgingly accept 3 points or fewer.

Anything more would certainly be appealed first thing Monday morning.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Champions League draw is done…just a few more hours for the press to salivate over that and we should get the news.
You have the Europa League draw to wait for yet!
 

beast85

A. Trialist
I suspect this comes down to stuff written in the first Everton Commission then expanded on in the Appeal finding about the nature of the breach - and the unfair sporting advantage gained - and the commensurate punishment of a points deduction to nullify the advtange.
Historically clubs have only had fines (Leicester, Bournemouth & QPR spring to mind) for breaking PSR rules. Find it strange, since the Newcastle take over / threat of an independent regulator any breach is now a certain points deduction.

My opinion for what it's worth is punishment to fit the crime and as we have breached we do deserve to be punished. What I don't like is the impending automatic points deduction when I honestly think in our situation we did not gain a sporting advantage. Our team on promotion was worth about 50p and decimated when the loaned players went back. Yes we brought in a lot of players (i said at the time was to many) but we did offload a lot as well including the record sale of BJ which has apparently put us immediately back in the black. The issue is purely a timing one.

Compare this to Everton who took the piss for years, somehow managed to sweep 200+ million under the COVID rug. Sure I read the PL give them warnings & support/advice prior to charging them and they still breached 2 years running. I don't agree with point deductions full stop however the 2 cases are significantly different.

I'll stop now as I could moan forever haha
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Historically clubs have only had fines (Leicester, Bournemouth & QPR spring to mind) for breaking PSR rules. Find it strange, since the Newcastle take over / threat of an independent regulator any breach is now a certain points deduction.

My opinion for what it's worth is punishment to fit the crime and as we have breached we do deserve to be punished. What I don't like is the impending automatic points deduction when I honestly think in our situation we did not gain a sporting advantage. Our team on promotion was worth about 50p and decimated when the loaned players went back. Yes we brought in a lot of players (i said at the time was to many) but we did offload a lot as well including the record sale of BJ which has apparently put us immediately back in the black. The issue is purely a timing one.

Compare this to Everton who took the piss for years, somehow managed to sweep 200+ million under the COVID rug. Sure I read the PL give them warnings & support/advice prior to charging them and they still breached 2 years running. I don't agree with point deductions full stop however the 2 cases are significantly different.

I'll stop now as I could moan forever haha
Don't you come on here talking sense!

(Completely agree though expect the PL will take a 'tough' stance due to the impending regulator thing)
 

Redemption

One less gobshite...
Historically clubs have only had fines (Leicester, Bournemouth & QPR spring to mind) for breaking PSR rules
Derby, Reading, Bury, Leeds, etc are all outside wanting a word about points deductions.

But I acknowledge your general point.
 

beast85

A. Trialist
Derby, Reading, Bury, Leeds, etc are all outside wanting a word about points deductions.

But I acknowledge your general point.
I was purely going by PL punishments.

I accept the EFL have taken a hard stance in recent times. Most of those mentioned where administration where they not? Apologies if I'm wrong
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Portsmouth are the poster-boys for points dedications, are they not?
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion

Redemption

One less gobshite...
I was purely going by PL punishments.

I accept the EFL have taken a hard stance in recent times. Most of those mentioned where administration where they not? Apologies if I'm wrong
I was distracted by your inclusion of QPR as their fine was with the EFL.
 

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
It'll be pretty poor form to announce this at the end of Friday before a crucial game at the bottom tomorrow. I reckon it'll be Monday now.

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Irish Wolf

First Team Squad
The more I think about it, I'm torn on whether to appeal or not if we get a deduction.

If what is suggested is true - take a lesser deduction if you drop any appeal - is essentially a threat. They're more or less saying take this punishment but if you make it complicated for us by appealing, we'll make it worse for you. The decision they come to is either deserved or it isn't.

Then again I can see the attraction of accepting that if it meant, say, two points deducted. I'd be more inclined to appeal if it was six reduced to four, for example.

Head hurts.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Derby still the bridesmaids.

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Derby would be the booby-prize, surely?

Like throwing your car-keys in the bowl at a swingers‘ party, and ending up with an AA Box.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
The more I think about it, I'm torn on whether to appeal or not if we get a deduction.

If what is suggested is true - take a lesser deduction if you drop any appeal - is essentially a threat. They're more or less saying take this punishment but if you make it complicated for us by appealing, we'll make it worse for you. The decision they come to is either deserved or it isn't.

Then again I can see the attraction of accepting that if it meant, say, two points deducted. I'd be more inclined to appeal if it was six reduced to four, for example.

Head hurts.
I doubt a plea-bargain offer would have been on the table anyway, so, as has been mentioned, any subsequent appeal won't come with a penalty-increase caveat.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
It'll be pretty poor form to announce this at the end of Friday before a crucial game at the bottom tomorrow. I reckon it'll be Monday now.

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Wouldn't be surprised if we still don't know this time next week - regardless of my feelings about their clubs financial wizardry, Everton fans did warn us this lot make it up as they go along.
 
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