Fawaz's 3 Biggest Successes...

[Tobias]

1. Communicating ith fans. He is good at this, comparitively speaking.

I'd say that this has been his biggest mistake by a huge distance. He has taken on board the council of people that really shouldn't have their opinions heard (but that's pretty much Twitter in a nutshell).

 

[glosterred]

Backed to the hilt by two different owners, two abject failures. The sum of all his efforts and money spent, limping into two play offs, where two abject surrenders followed, oh sorry, I forgot the magnificent display against ten men Swansea, played at the City Ground where Swansea down to ten men for 89 minutes were held to a draw.

I think that your opinion is sadly a good representation 95% of our fan base. It's also the reason this club will struggle to ever return to the premier league.

The best thing fawaz did was bring billy back (there didn't appear to be many who disagreed with this at the time). I think his biggest mistake was failing to talk a way forward with billy with regards to his relationship with the media and use of clichés in press conferences, particularly when it became apparent that these were far more important issues to the fans than results on the pitch.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I love a good joke as much as the next man, but this is sooooo corny.

Challenging for what ?

Ignore the manager you are refering to and answer me this Sedge, in 7th place, was SOD challenging for the playoffs and in turn promotion?

 

[Barry]

I think that your opinion is sadly a good representation 95% of our fan base. It's also the reason this club will struggle to ever return to the premier league.

The best thing fawaz did was bring billy back (there didn't appear to be many who disagreed with this at the time). I think his biggest mistake was failing to talk a way forward with billy with regards to his relationship with the media and use of clichés in press conferences, particularly when it became apparent that these were far more important issues to the fans than results on the pitch.

Maybe he attempted to talk a way forward with him and was unable to, have you thought of that?

There are more respected posters than me and sedgred on here that are confirmed as #itk that would be able to confirm some of the internal stuff and it wasn't very good.

 

[El_Macca]

I genuinely like Fawaz, i think he's boought to the club a sense of optimism every summer since he's been here.
And in terms of his sackings, taking O'Driscoll out of it I agree with every single one of them.

 

[Captain Sinister]

1 Saving us from liquidation by buying the Club in the first place;
2 Actually looking excited and/or downhearted when watching games - the agony and the ecstasy of being a fan;
3 Waving to me from his car when we both leaving St Andrews at the same time.

 

[glosterred]

Maybe he attempted to talk a way forward with him and was unable to, have you thought of that?

There are more respected posters than me and sedgred on here that are confirmed as #itk that would be able to confirm some of the internal stuff and it wasn't very good.

Fair enough and I would be very interested to know how those talks went. There are of course two sides to every story and I suspect the 'itk' posters have not heard Billy's side. Certainly on the whole the players seemed to hold billy in high regard?

 

[Trickie Trees]

I genuinely like Fawaz. He seems a very decent and likeable owner.
He seems genuinely keen on Forest though I think the last three years has perhaps ground him down a bit like us as fans.
He's backed every manager with money for signings and he wants the club to do well.
If he could spend this summer I am pretty sure he would have done. We can blame his handling of finances for FFP but it was all about getting us promoted and backing his managers. Hopefully the challenges to FFP may allow some more spending but hopefully more modestly and sensibly in the future.

Unlike some I want Fawaz to be around for years to come and hopefully learn his lessons and develop the right off field and on field formula. Oh and he saved the club from potential doom after Doughty left us high and dry. People have short memories.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Maybe he attempted to talk a way forward with him and was unable to, have you thought of that?

There are more respected posters than me and sedgred on here that are confirmed as #itk that would be able to confirm some of the internal stuff and it wasn't very good.

That's Fawaz's failing for me mate. It's the same with Pearce, Fawaz is the gaffer, how we didn't try a setup of Pearce + a SOD type before sacking him is beyond me.

Fawaz needs to realize that if his staff don't like something he pays their wages and ultimately has the final say.

Hammer to mend, hammer to murder. Managers are just tools for Fawaz to use to create his vision. He needs to learn how, or put a good setup in place which knows how. Doughty had the right idea, he just entrusted it to a total football retard in Marthur.

 

[glosterred]

I genuinely like Fawaz, i think he's boought to the club a sense of optimism every summer since he's been here.
And in terms of his sackings, taking O'Driscoll out of it I agree with every single one of them.

Bar SC he appointed every single one of them as well!

 

[hannahd]

1. Making the fans feel appreciated. I like how open and hands-on he is. I was desperate for Nigel Doughty to be like that.
2. Turning up for games at both home and away and getting worked up as the fans about the result.
3. Respecting our history and making sure ex-players are made to feel welcome, as they were not under the previous regime.

 

[Trickie Trees]

Doughty had the right idea, he just entrusted it to a total football retard in Marthur.

No he had the wrong idea letting the club be controlled by Arthur and he was too hands off.
Fawaz needs to find a happier medium between what he currently does and what Doughty did or didn't do.

 

[Barry]

Fair enough and I would be very interested to know how those talks went.

Only two people will really know

There are of course two sides to every story and I suspect the 'itk' posters have not heard Billy's side.

True, but from what i understand the sources did see the behaviour so although not his side it was witnessed

Certainly on the whole the players seemed to hold billy in high regard?

Again i wouldnt be to sure of that, its not really my place to say as im genuinely not #itk but i know others that post on here that are.

I wanted him to get the season to dispel the myth either way..... On the other hand better managers than him have lost their jobs having been smashed by their biggest rivals.

I always said at the time with all this falling out with anyone and everyone would be ok whilst results were good but as soon as we started to stumble, (which all teams do over a long season) the knives were gonna be out. The blame for that falls at BDs door and nobody elses.

 

[Castus]

1. Managing to make the name Fawaz look ok on a shirt.

2. Hiring SP

3. Sacking Mcleish

He might've refreshed the CG but the wreck created in the TE by removing the old screen leaving just greyness ruins it. Looks like a building site.

 

[sedgred]

Fair enough and I would be very interested to know how those talks went. There are of course two sides to every story and I suspect the 'itk' posters have not heard Billy's side. Certainly on the whole the players seemed to hold billy in high regard?

Not the players I have talked to, high regard, your now taking the pee. In the dislike stakes amongst the players opinions I have heard is that he ranks above Cotterill, now that's a long recent list to be near the bottom of.

 

[Dirk Furtull]

You don't have to like a manager to work for them though. I don't think BC was liked by all but he earned respect which is completely different.

 

[Barry]

Youd have to like them to sign for them and players in football talk. See secret footballer for confirmation of that.

 

[Castus]

 

[Wes' Organ]

The mind f***ing boggles.

 

[Barry]

Hes spelt twat wrong

 

[tropix]

That can't be real

 

[sedgred]

You don't have to like a manager to work for them though. I don't think BC was liked by all but he earned respect which is completely different.

What was there to respect about him, by either playing staff, owners or fans. He fouled up big time, the players knew it, before anyone else, his tactics, directions and team selections were increasingly bizarre when the slightest pressure was exerted on him, his own behaviour spoke volumes of his lack of self belief and confidence in his own ability, the results of this were witnessed by the fans, who could see for themselves, the absolute boring shambles the team produced.

 

[Trickie Trees]

What was there to respect about him, by either playing staff, owners or fans. He fouled up big time, the players knew it, before anyone else, his tactics, directions and team selections were increasingly bizarre when the slightest pressure was exerted on him, his own behaviour spoke volumes of his lack of self belief and confidence in his own ability, the results of this were witnessed by the fans, who could see for themselves, the absolute boring shambles the team produced.

I actually think he is mentally unstable. That's the root of his problems.

 

[glosterred]

Not the players I have talked to, high regard, your now taking the pee. In the dislike stakes amongst the players opinions I have heard is that he ranks above Cotterill, now that's a long recent list to be near the bottom of.

The players in question, who ever they are, probably just slagged him off to you for an easy life!!!

 

[sedgred]

The players in question, who ever they are, probably just slagged him off to you for an easy life!!!

Err yes of course.