Everybody loves Gareth

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EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
Haych said:
Rashford usually takes good penalties, he’s scored a few high pressure ones as well.

It’s the saka choice which was madness, he’s so inexperienced and a player who’s a few years from his prime so I’m surprised he got so much game time over Sancho, Grealish who are a few years ahead of the lad in terms of development. Hopefully it doesn’t knacker his career before it’s started.
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I know he got the assist for the goal against Denmark but otherwise he was poor. Sancho should have played instead of him and he should have come on instead of Saka yesterday but hey ho.

Rashford usually just twats pennos as well its so frustrating to watch him change technique because he is such a good penno taker. I cant blame Southgate for bringing Rashord and Sancho on especially take Henderson who is garbage at penalties. I actually thought it was good management however the Saka one I agree was a bad choice and was really odd. Thats why I dont think you can say its all Southgates fault.
 
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Fuzzy Dunlop

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EmmersonForest4 said:
I know he got the assist for the goal against Denmark but otherwise he was poor. Sancho should have played instead of him and he should have come on instead of Saka yesterday but hey ho.

Rashford usually just twats pennos as well its so frustrating to watch him change technique because he is such a good penno taker. I cant blame Southgate for bringing Rashord and Sancho on especially take Henderson who is garbage at penalties. I actually thought it was good management however the Saka one I agree was a bad choice and was really odd. Thats why I dont think you can say its all Southgates fault.
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Southgate has said it's based on number in training so it's not just a case of picking whichever 5 raise their hand like in the 90s. A lot of analysis will have gone into it and it just didn't work out on the night, that's life. Penalties are not an exact science and the best players in the world have missed.

If we had left players on the pitch and not made penalty-specific subs then GS would've been crucified so he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't at this stage.

My issue is could we have done more in the 90 minutes to force the issue...and I believe the answer to that is yes.
 
Huxley

Huxley

John Robertson
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
Southgate has said it's based on number in training so it's not just a case of picking whichever 5 raise their hand like in the 90s. A lot of analysis will have gone into it and it just didn't work out on the night, that's life. Penalties are not an exact science and the best players in the world have missed.

If we had left players on the pitch and not made penalty-specific subs then GS would've been crucified so he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't at this stage.

My issue is could we have done more in the 90 minutes to force the issue...and I believe the answer to that is yes.
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One shot on target in 120 minutes. 0 touches in the box for the centre forward....I think it's pretty clear England could've done more.

Still gutted for the lad who missed everytime I see it, and I've seen it a lot today.

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Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
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Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
Southgate has said it's based on number in training so it's not just a case of picking whichever 5 raise their hand like in the 90s.
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For me this is where you can't justify decisions with stats. I think you should always base your penalty takers in a shootout on who wants it. Almost all players are good penalty takers nowadays (you look at some of the penalties CBs have scored during this Euros). If you are not right in the head at that moment, it doesn't matter whether you scored 100/100 in training.

I think generally you are just putting too much pressure on players that have hardly played this Euros, and basically putting the whole thing in their hands whether they fancied it or not.

Haych said:
Rashford usually takes good penalties, he’s scored a few high pressure ones as well.

It’s the saka choice which was madness, he’s so inexperienced and a player who’s a few years from his prime so I’m surprised he got so much game time over Sancho, Grealish who are a few years ahead of the lad in terms of development. Hopefully it doesn’t knacker his career before it’s started.
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Yes, maybe the Rashford/Sancho ones are forgivable. The Saka one was insane, he hasn't even taken a penalty before.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Lame.

For me we should replace him henceforth with a proper manager who has a proven track record of winning the Race for Fourth by employing the gegenpress and playing between the lines from the comfort of his bucket, and is canny enough never to get our hopes up by taking us to semi-finals and finals.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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The answer is staring the FA in the face. Brendan Rodgers would run a successful England project.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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That's fine by me, I was being a knob. No doubt he'd be an underwhelming England manager who'd take us nowhere, like most are.

Either way, he'd get constant criticism for not being up to the job we need him to do like he does regularly on the Leicester forum.
 
Raymondo Ponte'

Raymondo Ponte'

It's all about mid-table...
Doesn't matter who the England manager is they're destined to fail.

They had a massive chance in 1977 and failed to take it thank f***.
 
Ravi

Ravi

Upper Decker
Francis Benali (on loan) said:
That's fine by me, I was being a knob. No doubt he'd be an underwhelming England manager who'd take us nowhere, like most are.

Either way, he'd get constant criticism for not being up to the job we need him to do like he does regularly on the Leicester forum.
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I'm more than happy with the job Gareth has done, and I do think he made mistakes in the final. The truth is reaching a semi final followed by a final is unknown territory for England managers under the age of 90, and no one can reasonably claim that he should have done any better than he did.

Other than winning everything in a one team backwater league Brendan Rodgers is best known for grasping defeat from the jaws of victory - both at Liverpool and Leicester. He'd be ideal.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Raymondo Ponte' said:
Doesn't matter who the England manager is they're destined to fail.

They had a massive chance in 1977 and failed to take it thank f***.
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Must have had a 'golden generation', Ray because English clubs made up almost exclusively of British players had set off on a run of winning six consecutive European Cup finals. And yet we didn't even qualify.

Now manager loses on penalties in the final but anyone else could have won it because he had Jack Grealish.
 
congo_red_49

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
Francis Benali (on loan) said:
Must have had a 'golden generation', Ray because English clubs made up almost exclusively of British players had set off on a run of winning six consecutive European Cup finals. And yet we didn't even qualify.

Now manager loses on penalties in the final but anyone else could have won it because he had Jack Grealish.
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I'm really not getting the Grealish love-in. Has looked more ineffective than not whenever I've seen him turn out for England. Still he wins a lot of free-kicks that we then fail to do anything with.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Hope he wins England the World Cup next year, but it was definitely a thing that gathered momentum and was overblown. Sure there were even people who were watching their first football match since the last World Cup screaming "he HAS to get Grealish on" in the early games.

It's one of things I'll remember the tournament for - watching Jack Grealish warm up.
 
Ravi

Ravi

Upper Decker
Francis Benali (on loan) said:
Hope he wins England the World Cup next year, but it was definitely a thing that gathered momentum and was overblown. Sure there were even people who were watching their first football match since the last World Cup screaming "he HAS to get Grealish on" in the early games.

It's one of things I'll remember the tournament for - watching Jack Grealish warm up.
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If we'd won it Grealish would be Gareth's Jimmy Greaves. Maybe we will win the WC to make the comparison fully valid.
 
valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
For me, it wasn't only Grealish.

So few of the squad were seriously considered for the side. Even those subs who got on were just used for a few minutes to see out the game. I keep banging on about favourites, but, to me, it was glaringly obvious that he only trusted about 12 to 15 players to deliver for him so it will be interesting to see who plays in the qualifying games coming soon.
 
eugenboppboppbopp

eugenboppboppbopp

Jack Armstrong
Must've broke the record for subbing subs at a tourney. Super Gaz will be on the front cover of this years Guinness book of World records

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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Did it to the fans favourite too.

Got some king kong balls, has Super Gaz
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Ravi said:
I'm more than happy with the job Gareth has done, and I do think he made mistakes in the final. The truth is reaching a semi final followed by a final is unknown territory for England managers under the age of 90, and no one can reasonably claim that he should have done any better than he did.

Other than winning everything in a one team backwater league Brendan Rodgers is best known for grasping defeat from the jaws of victory - both at Liverpool and Leicester. He'd be ideal.
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Yes I am the same, I haven't been a fan of Southgate in the past and I am still not particularly now but I am happy for him to have the WC because he has got us far in tournements.

However I would like to see him get more out of the attacking players we have, the match selections & subsitutions were puzzling throughout the Euros.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
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Talking of England Managers; Lee Carsley is the strong favourite to be appointed England under-21 manager, replacing Aidy Boothroyd.
 
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