Demise of Everton

I'm Red Till Dead

Stuart Pearce
To be honest the whole Man City & Chelsea thing is cringe to me. It just shows how rigged FFP is & how rigged they are trying to make it. Any club that is an established elite club is fine to spend billions, but anybody else then they have to bend every rule they possibly can. You can throw Everton in the mix too as they did have ambitions to become a top club.

It's elitist tosh, we can laugh at others and demand charges but if Forest get into the position to challenging those clubs when they have a constant financial advantage I wouldn't give a toss if my club bent the rules either. Man United, Arsenal & Liverpool would never break any rules of course, because they don't need too even though Man United in particular outspend everybody in the division in both wages & fees...
...And they appeared to benefit for years from 'Fergie time.' which seemed to rescue them so many times over the years.
 

Flaggers

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It's a radical theory, that because they've been a bunch of cheating bastards in one season, they may have also been a bunch of cheating bastards in other seasons.
Surely not?!😮
Bit surprised by this, I thought the Premier League would back off after seeing all those pink cards.
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DanR

Steve Chettle

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Didn't they spend a load of cash the summer we got promoted when everyone was saying they were already in the shit? This could be the gift that keeps on giving...
 
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Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Let's hope this thread ages well. I think Saturday will be a tough game.
I agree with you

We are vulnerable on crosses with Vlachodimos in goal, a Dyche side will get plenty in - I would play Turner even if Vlachodimos is intended to be the first choice. And we will need to be similarly direct and clinical at the other end.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
It's a radical theory, that because they've been a bunch of cheating bastards in one season, they may have also been a bunch of cheating bastards in other seasons.
There might be something in this!
 

Flaggers

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DanR

Steve Chettle
I hope the appeal board tell them to go and f*** themselves. And then dock them another 10 points for wasting everyone's time.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
They are likely to win their appeal in my opinion.

Suspect their points deduction will get halved.
 

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
I bet they win the appeal and the resulting change in the points deduction relegates another club.

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Haych

John Robertson
I reckon the deduction to go down to 5 or 6 points on appeal making a mockery of the whole thing.
 

Templeton

First Team Squad
It basically reads as Everton admitting that they cheated, but not happy they got punished for cheating. As others say it will probably be reduced to 5 or 6 points, but if so then it just shows how pathetic the Premier League, FFP, and an Independent Panel are in reality. Still, at least Derby have someone to play with in victimised corner now.
 

lavelleuk

First Team Squad
Boring comment that I am sure has been covered, but I love how fans of other clubs (the "football family" as people like to push) have been backing Everton. I wonder if those same fans would be backing them if their spending had actually worked?

If Everton were in Newcastle's position right now would those same fans be outraged and calling the PL corrupt? Or would those exact same people be outraged at Everton for buying their way to success?
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Boring comment that I am sure has been covered, but I love how fans of other clubs (the "football family" as people like to push) have been backing Everton. I wonder if those same fans would be backing them if their spending had actually worked?

If Everton were in Newcastle's position right now would those same fans be outraged and calling the PL corrupt? Or would those exact same people be outraged at Everton for buying their way to success?
I'd imagine most of those people haven't been paying attention to what has been happening and are falling for the media's sob story, in the same way some people did with Derby.

Like with Derby, fans of other clubs who are aware of what they have done most likely feel very differently.

Everton deserve their punishment, and are very lucky that they didn't get it last season (when they should have) and are probably going to get their points deduction reduced (or maybe even scrapped altogether) because no one running the show has a spine.
 

lavelleuk

First Team Squad
I'd imagine most of those people haven't been paying attention to what has been happening and are falling for the media's sob story, in the same way some people did with Derby.

Like with Derby, fans of other clubs who are aware of what they have done most likely feel very differently.

Everton deserve their punishment, and are very lucky that they didn't get it last season (when they should have) and are probably going to get their points deduction reduced (or maybe even scrapped altogether) because no one running the show has a spine.
Yeah I know it's just one idiot's uninformed opinion but I'm pretty sure they got given the 10 point deduction because they knew on appeal it would (hopefully) still be around 5 points. That was Everton can "win" the appeal, but they will have still been punished, Everton will likely still stay up, nothing will change, life will go on.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Yeah I know it's just one idiot's uninformed opinion but I'm pretty sure they got given the 10 point deduction because they knew on appeal it would (hopefully) still be around 5 points. That was Everton can "win" the appeal, but they will have still been punished, Everton will likely still stay up, nothing will change, life will go on.
Sadly that is probably what will happen; they'll stay up (I think they would even with the 10 points deducted), get new owners and will be throwing money around like confetti in the summer again.

Then there will no doubt be another club that breaks the rules in the Premier League or Championship and we'll go through this whole song and dance again. Can't be threatening "big clubs" now, can we?

Any "smaller" clubs in Leagues One and Two that get in trouble will of course be told to get f**ked though.

TL;DR - Business as usual.
 

trentside69

Viv Anderson
I'd imagine most of those people haven't been paying attention to what has been happening and are falling for the media's sob story, in the same way some people did with Derby.

Like with Derby, fans of other clubs who are aware of what they have done most likely feel very differently.

Everton deserve their punishment, and are very lucky that they didn't get it last season (when they should have) and are probably going to get their points deduction reduced (or maybe even scrapped altogether) because no one running the show has a spine.
There will be further punishment for everton so by the time this is sorted out they will be lucky to even be in the championship.
They might end up with the biggest ground in league 1 and they deserve it for cheating and getting caught.
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
I am sure that whatever happens to Everton is done with more than half an eye on what is looming on the horizon in the shape of Chelsea and Manchester City's lawyers and almost limitless funds.
 

IdiotTricky

First Team Squad
Sorry for bumping this, but with or without the points reduction, Everton look like they'll be fine this season.

Part of me is annoyed as they've been bumping along the bottom for a while, but part of me is pleased 'cos they're a scouse club who aren't Liverpool and (don't hate me) I quite like scousers.
 

Mr. Blonde

Jack Burkitt
They have a very good manager.
Forgive me for liking your post Erik if it was sarcasm (and I only say that because of the Steve Bruce posts!) but Dyche is a great manager for the position they are in and they'll be more than fine with him in charge

Wouldn't swap him for Cooper though, before anyone starts!
 
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