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[Otis Redding]

Tight budgets or otherwise, it doesn't cost much to pick up a bloody telephone.

They just seem content to spend half an hour browsing the web (and LTLF in particular) to then rehash whatever rumours they come across and can turn into a click-bait headline.

Lazy doesn't even begin to describe it.

That's right. In terms of football, the online NP is now essentially nothing more than a hub for 'news' lifted from other outlets including, it now seems, content from the Forest matchday programme, but presenting it as though they've sourced it.

 

[It's Baggio]

I don't think it's exclusive to the NP, though. Even the nationals do it. Seems to be a consequence of ad revenue driving turnover.

That said, I don't think it's difficult to differentiate between a 'clickbait' article with news lifted from elsewhere and an actual 'sourced' bit of news that a Journalist puts their name to. Although since Taylor left, I'm not sure the NP have anyone capable of the latter.

 

[Cortez the Killer]

I don't subscribe to The Athletic but I have read a couple of articles on there and the difference in the quality of writing and journalistic insight between that and the NEP is akin to Ernest Hemingway and the graffiti scrawled on the back of a toilet door.

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[Strummer]

I don't subscribe to The Athletic but I have read a couple of articles on there and the difference in the quality of writing and journalistic insight between that and the NEP is akin to Ernest Hemingway and the graffiti scrawled on the back of a toilet door.

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I do subscribe, and can thoroughly recommend it.

The articles are not constrained by length, and aren’t splattered with advertisements, and as you say, the quality of writing is superb.

 

[Green Jumper]

I don't read the Post as it's garbage, but based purely on the quality of the articles linked on here, it appears I may have been harsh on Taylor.

He seems to actually be able to write and it could easily be that he simply got f**ked off with having to produce the sort of bilge that the Post publish and voted with his feet.

 

[Ravi]

I do subscribe, and can thoroughly recommend it.

The articles are not constrained by length, and aren’t splattered with advertisements, and as you say, the quality of writing is superb.

I concur.

I've just read a fascinating article about the success of Brentford's B team since they dropped out of the English academy system.

 

[Strummer]

I concur.

I've just read a fascinating article about the success of Brentford's B team since they dropped out of the English academy system.

Also when do read an article, it suggests similar topics you can also go off and read; it’s proper going down the proverbial rabbit-hole at times, I ended up with a fascinating story about the commercialisation of the game in the Chinese Super League.

 

[Ravi]

"...what was once a trickle of players progressing from academy to senior set-up has become a stream since Brentford risked upsetting the established order, who tend to operate rigidly within English football’s Elite Player Performance Plan, and abandoned their conventional youth set-up for the B team model back in 2016.
Plenty had grumbled dissatisfaction at that decision. Now, though, this club is reaping the benefits of being bold".

 

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

Also when do read an article, it suggests similar topics you can also go off and read; it’s proper going down the proverbial rabbit-hole at times, I ended up with a fascinating story about the commercialisation of the game in the Chinese Super League.

Ah, that old chestnut.

 

[valspoodle]

Whilst the Athletic seems to be a superior source, is it simply because their writing style is better? After all, how can they get local news from every football club when they are not local to them all? From the same sources the Post do, I would guess, but the Athletic wrap it up better.

 

[Strummer]

Whilst the Athletic seems to be a superior source, is it simply because their writing style is better? After all, how can they get local news from every football club when they are not local to them all? From the same sources the Post do, I would guess, but the Athletic wrap it up better.

No, the point is, that the Athletic have signed up local reporters who already have the relationship with their local clubs, but whose articles were constrained by the editorial policies of their previous media outlets.

Paul Taylor (formerly of the NEP) has provided insights and interviews that he would never have been able to publish in the bland NEP.

Phil Hay, who is a longtime Leeds United correspondent, is also on there, as of course is Daniel Taylor and other heavyweights like Rafa Honigstein.

It’s that the purely-online Athletic gives them a much better platform to write their stories, without restrictions associated with advertising demands and space constraints?

Yes, it’s €60 a year, but for me, it’s the most enjoyable €60 I’ve spent for ages.

 

[Heffing Psycho!]

I also got a years subscription when they were doing the offer in the summer and I agree it's brilliant. Some fantastic articles, the one the other day where they had the three insiders talking about the January transfer window was great.

 

[valspoodle]

No, the point is, that the Athletic have signed up local reporters who already have the relationship with their local clubs, but whose articles were constrained by the editorial policies of their previous media outlets.

Paul Taylor (formerly of the NEP) has provided insights and interviews that he would never have been able to publish in the bland NEP.

Phil Hay, who is a longtime Leeds United correspondent, is also on there, as of course is Daniel Taylor and other heavyweights like Rafa Honigstein.

It’s that the purely-online Athletic gives them a much better platform to write their stories, without restrictions associated with advertising demands and space constraints?

Yes, it’s €60 a year, but for me, it’s the most enjoyable €60 I’ve spent for ages.

I bow to your knowledge, but still fail to see why the Post would not let him post his superior articles. After all, wouldn't that spike the guns of those complaining about the quality of Post articles?

 

[Ravi]

No, the point is, that the Athletic have signed up local reporters who already have the relationship with their local clubs, but whose articles were constrained by the editorial policies of their previous media outlets.

Paul Taylor (formerly of the NEP) has provided insights and interviews that he would never have been able to publish in the bland NEP.

Phil Hay, who is a longtime Leeds United correspondent, is also on there, as of course is Daniel Taylor and other heavyweights like Rafa Honigstein.

It’s that the purely-online Athletic gives them a much better platform to write their stories, without restrictions associated with advertising demands and space constraints?

Yes, it’s €60 a year, but for me, it’s the most enjoyable €60 I’ve spent for ages.

Aye, a fiver a month isn't a lot for a good quality football 'newspaper'.

 

[Viktor]

It's incredible if you're into American Sports like myself

 

[Captain Sinister]

I also got a years subscription when they were doing the offer in the summer and I agree it's brilliant. Some fantastic articles, the one the other day where they had the three insiders talking about the January transfer window was great.

As it is so good, and the writers are on the inside track with their clubs, can you let us know who they are saying is coming in at Forest before the January window closes?
I don't want to diss something I haven't read, so I look forward to seeing how accurate the Athletic is compared to the wider media, which has the accuracy of a man with an enlarged prostate trying to aim a urine stream at a small target.

 

[Heffing Psycho!]

As it is so good, and the writers are on the inside track with their clubs, can you let us know who they are saying is coming in at Forest before the January window closes?
I don't want to diss something I haven't read, so I look forward to seeing how accurate the Athletic is compared to the wider media, which has the accuracy of a man with an enlarged prostate trying to aim a urine stream at a small target.

The last transfer update Tails did was last Sunday's article (he doesn't do a daily piece, usually 3 or 4 a week) said the club weren't close to anything yet but weren't worried about that fact either and always expected business to be done towards the end of the window.

 

[Matt]

Really, really good boxing coverage too for those that are interested

 

[Strummer]

It's incredible if you're into American Sports like myself

Yeah - their NFL and college football stuff is brilliant (as it should be, as they started as a US-centric site).

The Bundesliga coverage is fantastic as well, far better in fact than the Bundesliga‘s own site!

 

[Ravi]

It's incredible if you're into American Sports like myself

I've discovered all the MLB content on there after your post Freddie. :cheers:

 

[Jimmy Gonad]

Taylor wrote somewhere that the editorial meetings at the NEP placed emphasis on articles generating clicks rather than content for people to read.

They just do not want readers spending time reading an article when they could be generating money

 

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

Taylor wrote somewhere that the editorial meetings at the NEP placed emphasis on articles generating clicks rather than content for people to read.

They just do not want readers spending time reading an article when they could be generating money

Baiting people into clicking you say..?

 

[Viktor]

I've discovered all the MLB content on there after your post Freddie. :cheers:

It's very good isn't it? I was umm-ing and ahh-ing because the journalism around MLB is good anyway but the Athletic is a lot better. Very pleased.

 

[cms186]

No, the point is, that the Athletic have signed up local reporters who already have the relationship with their local clubs, but whose articles were constrained by the editorial policies of their previous media outlets.

Paul Taylor (formerly of the NEP) has provided insights and interviews that he would never have been able to publish in the bland NEP.

Phil Hay, who is a longtime Leeds United correspondent, is also on there, as of course is Daniel Taylor and other heavyweights like Rafa Honigstein.

It’s that the purely-online Athletic gives them a much better platform to write their stories, without restrictions associated with advertising demands and space constraints?

Yes, it’s €60 a year, but for me, it’s the most enjoyable €60 I’ve spent for ages.

if you know someone with a subscription, its not even 60 bucks, I can give anyone wanting a sub a 40% discount with a referral code

 

[Eddie Yates]

Sounds quite good, I might subscribe although I don’t give a toss for those silly American sports