Brennan Price Johnson

[Bonalair]

Nobody actually knows his dad is interfering, but he’s suddenly at fault and should butt out?

Last few posts have gone from “his dad might not be happy he was benched last few games” to “his dads a nob” . Even for a forum that’s a rapid jump from a maybe to a definite

 

[gamble]

Does Brennan assume he'd start for Brentford? If missing a few games against the top 6 upset him that much that he wants to leave then good luck to the lad. Players often get dropped to play a different way and Brentford are no different, the only thing he won't have a manager like Copper or a fanbase that will give him more time than others.

BJ isn't irreplaceable, MGW and Awoniyi would be harde to replace.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Nobody actually knows his dad is interfering, but he’s suddenly at fault and should butt out?

Last few posts have gone from “his dad might not be happy he was benched last few games” to “his dads a nob” . Even for a forum that’s a rapid jump from a maybe to a definite

Someone told Brentford he maybe interested.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

It certainly happened at Forest under Mark Arthur's reign. A lot of clubs refused to do business with us because we were deemed piss takers at the time. Describing the actions of people you might do business with as "derisory and insulting" isn't something that is done lightly, nor is it something that usually happens when a bid gets rejected.

At the end of the day, antagonising people you want to do business with is not a great negotiating strategy in any line of business and only really works if you are the only option on the table and the other party is desperate to do business. Forest aren't desperate to do business, and if they do decide that they want to sell then they will have plenty of options other than Brentford.

Clubs didn't do business with us because we didn't meet their asking prices. There's no room for sentiment when £ signs are in the room.

We eventually put £10m on the table for Darren Pratley and offer him £30k a week he'd have been a Forest player.

 

[Timothy Pope]

Clubs didn't do business with us because we didn't meet their asking prices. There's no room for sentiment when £ signs are in the room.

We eventually put £10m on the table for Darren Pratley and offer him £30k a week he'd have been a Forest player.

A certain Mr Arthur was renowned for agreeing a deal with a player and then the written contract being for less than agreed.

 

[Redemption]

Someone told Brentford he maybe interested.

But did someone?

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

A certain Mr Arthur was renowned for agreeing a deal with a player and then the written contract being for less than agreed.

So other clubs would do business with us if it met their asking price in other words, even despite the director having a reputation for being a shitlord. Glad we cleared that up.

 

[Redemption]

If missing a few games against the top 6 upset him that much that he wants to leave then good luck to the lad.

Some speculated this might upset his Dad.

Now, you're speculating on his own psychodrama...

Bonkers. Truly bonkers.

 

[It's Baggio]

Nobody actually knows his dad is interfering, but he’s suddenly at fault and should butt out?

Last few posts have gone from “his dad might not be happy he was benched last few games” to “his dads a nob” . Even for a forum that’s a rapid jump from a maybe to a definite

It was the same on here last summer prior to signing his contract.

Besides, If DJ wants a new house then I doubt he'd be hawking him to Brentford, a club with one of the lowest wage bills in the league.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

But did someone?

Absolutely. No bids get made without some contact. No one complains about tapping up because everyone does it.

 

[Ashley]

Clubs didn't do business with us because we didn't meet their asking prices. There's no room for sentiment when £ signs are in the room.

We eventually put £10m on the table for Darren Pratley and offer him £30k a week he'd have been a Forest player.

If we desperately wanted to sell and they were the only game in town, you'd be right.

However we are talking about a highly sought after player with plenty of other potential buyers here. Let's say for example Brentford do bid £55m-£60m for him and say Aston Villa or West Ham come in with a similar bid; Brentford are right at the back of the queue in this scenario as a result of their actions.

Even under Mark Arthur when he eventually did cough up asking prices after initially taking the piss, clubs were known for telling us to get f**ked and then sold their asset to someone else. Some clubs even stopped engaging with Forest completely for many years because of this.

In any line of business, insulting or taking the piss out of the other party is not a tactic that will get you very far unless that party is in a position of weakness and has no other options.

 

[gamble]

Some speculated this might upset his Dad.

Now, you're speculating on his own psychodrama...

Bonkers. Truly bonkers.

I'm not speculating on anything, hence I put IF.

If anything it makes the point less valid, he isn't guaranteed to play anywhere, so leaving as he missed a few games would be pointless..

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

If we desperately wanted to sell and they were the only game in town, you'd be right.

However we are talking about a highly sought after player with plenty of other potential buyers here. Let's say for example Brentford do bid £55m-£60m for him and say Aston Villa or West Ham come in with a similar bid; Brentford are right at the back of the queue in this scenario as a result of their actions.

Even under Mark Arthur when he eventually did cough up asking prices, clubs were known for telling us to get f**ked and then sold their asset to someone else. Some clubs even stopped engaging with Forest completely for many years because of this.

In any line of business, insulting or taking the piss out of the other party is not a tactic that will get you very far unless that party is in a position of weakness and has no other options.

My business doesn't pay suppliers for months on end in order to conserve cash for quarterly statements. Our customers chance not paying for services consumed too probably for the same reason and they also try and get out of paying for work if there's any ambiguity in the contracts.

Business is absolutely rife with either side being twats. The idea of not doing business with another party because they play hard ball is fanciful.

If you have any hard evidence of clubs not selling players to us ONLY because of Mark Arthur's antics then feel free to post it.

 

[Redemption]

Absolutely. No bids get made without some contact. No one complains about tapping up because everyone does it.

In more recent accounts of Tapping Up, its usually the player's agent goes to the contracted club and asks what it would take to release the player. Then the agent talks to interested parties.

If it was this case, then some
One didn't do their homework.

 

[Redemption]

I'm not speculating on anything, hence I put IF

That you prefaced it with an IF means you're speculating...

the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

The buying club will find a way of asking if he's interested. Whether that's through a footballer, agent or whatever. They speak to the player (in some way) before they they make a bid.

 

[Ashley]

My business doesn't pay suppliers for months on end in order to conserve cash for quarterly statements. Our customers chance not paying for services consumed too probably for the same reason and they also try and get out of paying for work if there's any ambiguity in the contracts.

Business is absolutely rife with either side being twats. The idea of not doing business with another party because they play hard ball is fanciful.

Big difference in this scenario is that Forest will have plenty of other options on the table that don't involve selling to Brentford. Forest are also the ones with the asset at the middle of all this and are not desperate to sell, so should be the ones in the position of strength that can play "hard ball" in this scenario. I also don't think what Brentford are doing with their derisory bid can merely be described as playing 'hard ball'; it can easily be construed as a deliberate and public attempt to unsettle a player (and the club clearly has interpreted it as such).

Selling him to Brentford after all this could also have other ramifications, such as people seeing Forest as push overs (having buckled and sold to a club who publicly tried to unsettle a player with a piss take bid that they knew full well would be rejected) which will make retaining and signing players more difficult. Like with our piss taking under Mark Arthur and Burnley's piss taking over many years, there are very good reasons why clubs choose not to buckle in the face of other clubs taking the mickey.

 

[siforest65]

Taking the obnoxious nature of Brentford’s online fans out of the equation, I think they are a very well run club and are very frugal in transfer dealings. They seem to look at potential and how players fit into their system. For some reason Brennan has attracted Thomas Franks attention and I bet he’s kicking himself we got promoted and stayed up because I think it’s taken him outside their budget.

 

[thereds66]

Brennan signed a 4 year contract after we got promoted, so whatever happens, if he wants to go, it his dad wants him to go, thats all fine, but Forest are going to get what they think he is worth, and not a penny less. No matter how many small bids Brentford put in.

Honestly though, I think Brennan would very happily stay at Forest for at least another season, and all the talk is from everyone else.

 

[Ashley]

Taking the obnoxious nature of Brentford’s online fans out of the equation, I think they are a very well run club and are very frugal in transfer dealings. They seem to look at potential and how players fit into their system. For some reason Brennan has attracted Thomas Franks attention and I bet he’s kicking himself we got promoted and stayed up because I think it’s taken him outside their budget.

Yes, £30m might not have been far off what we'd have sold him for it we got relegated to be fair. But as we stayed up, its a very different conversation now. Especially considering they are going to have to also spend on Toney and (most likely) Raya replacements this summer too.

 

[Chappers85]

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This may come back to haunt me but Brennan will never play for Brentford. A) They won't pay the money. B) There is no significant benefit for the player: Brentford won't be able to offer any more than we could; they've been in the Prem a whopping 1 year more than us and will have to cope without their star striker for half of next season; there is no prestige, history or platform to Brentford as a club.

My hope, and what I suspect, is Brentford are just a bit delusionaland the media (well social media) are just giving more emphasis because it's silly season. Possibly, Brennan or his representatives are humouring Brentford behind the scenes to get a better deal at Forest. My fear is that Brennan is doing it not to get a move to Brentfica, but to signal to bigger clubs to come get him.

However, I don’t doubt Brennan loves the club. His dad gets some stick on here at times which I've never really got. There doesn't seem to be any real evidence that he's been trying to engineer a move away. From everything I've ever heard him say, it seems he didn't like or rate Hughton and thought he was bad for the club and his son. That's about it and he was bang on. Like any dad he'll want what's best for his son so if a bigger team come calling then he may advise him to leave. I have a hard time believing he thinks Brentford is where his son's future lies because Brennan was tactically left out of a few games towards the end of the season when we were backs-to-the-wall scrapping for our lives.

 

[theloner]

Rangers (as in the Glasgae ones) now lol give my head peace

 

[siforest65]

Rangers (as in the Glasgae ones) now lol give my head peace

Are they the club who always finish second in a 2 horse race?

 

[RedKez]

Absolutely. No bids get made without some contact. No one complains about tapping up because everyone does it.

The current rules are a bid has to be made to allow contact. You could make a one penny bid. Forest did it with so many last season- small offers so they could officially approach someone without breaking rules.

 

[Jimmy]

DJ has played the game at a high enough level to know that players get dropped for all sorts of reasons and tactics is just one of them.

Brentford have played this game before with us, submitting derisory bids then, when they get knocked back, submit another derisory bid a few pence higher. Same shit different day as far as they are concerned. Forest obviously have Brennan's value to the club in mind but Brentford won't reach it.

Brennan has spent his life involved with Forest right up to this point. What can Brentford offer him that Forest can't? There's no doubt that he's already on a decent wedge so can they offer him a higher salary than the one that he's already on? Are they able to improve him as a player more than we can? Do they have a greater chance than we do of playing in European competitions the season after next because if he goes to them he won't be doing it this coming season? He's already become an international footballer under Forest. Going to Brentford would be a bloody big gamble for him and I don't think he'd gain anything from it.

There are another three years on BJ's contract. We have avoided relegation which gives us £100m+ plus to play with. Financially we don't need to sell him so why would we when his value is only going to increase.

The only way he goes IMO is if a top 4 side comes in for him, offering him Champions League football, a big salary increase and the club a bid that we can't turn down. We'd also have to have a replacement lined up, with terms agreed, someone who can slot straight into his position and a proven upgrade. I haven't seen any suggestions that might be the case.

The media will keep running with this because - clickbait.