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Ben Brereton Díaz

gamble

Stuart Pearce
My concern is too many Championship level players, we've got enough at the minute and we need proven players at the top level.

Hoping he can step up immediately is a risk, if we had 2 proven strikers I'd be fine with it.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
Brereton certianly has the physicality for a a counter attacking. My concern was his finishing when he was here because his technique was a very ragged however if that has tightened up than hell be a decent signing for our system.
 

MASE

Up-Front
Had him down as a one hit wonder, but he's doing it again this season. Still young, Coopers influence on the player has to be factored in & he's got a few other high profile PL teams after him, but they aint as desperate as us for him to hit the ground running.

I think he'd be an upgrade on Surridge, so wouldnt turn my nose up. Wouldnt be surprised if he flopped either.

So f*** knows basically.
 

Danga

Formerly JLingz
I don't see him as having much more to offer than Surridge to be honest so it would be pointless.
Apart from pace, power and goal scoring ability I completely agree.

Brereton would fit in perfectly as the wide left forward with the false 9/number 10. He has shown he can play there or as an out and out striker. Like Mase alludes too, he scored 22 last season, is already on double figures this season, under 2 different managers/set ups so I personally don't think he is a one hit wonder. Even as a sub, I think he'd offer more than Surridge and Dennis purely down to his directness and pace.

We also have the trump card that is the sell on clause. I'd be more than happy to bring him back, I'd even float the idea of letting Surridge go to them on loan or as part of the package to bring him back.
 

lavelleuk

First Team Squad
Really liked him when he was here, seen him have a few great games for Blackburn, although I can't say I have watched them often!

Personally I would be all for it, potentially starting four academy graduates in the premier league would make me very happy

Playing four better players would make me happier, but I mean that's for future seasons!
 

Omar Devone Little

Mr Realistic
Apart from pace, power and goal scoring ability I completely agree.

Brereton would fit in perfectly as the wide left forward with the false 9/number 10. He has shown he can play there or as an out and out striker. Like Mase alludes too, he scored 22 last season, is already on double figures this season, under 2 different managers/set ups so I personally don't think he is a one hit wonder. Even as a sub, I think he'd offer more than Surridge and Dennis purely down to his directness and pace.

We also have the trump card that is the sell on clause. I'd be more than happy to bring him back, I'd even float the idea of letting Surridge go to them on loan or as part of the package to bring him back.

I think you're over-egging the pace a bit unless he's turned into a flying machine since leaving us. And to be honest I think if Surrudge plays week in week out in the Championship for a decent team he's getting 20-odd goals.

Really we want to buy better than what we have, surely? Rather than just padding out the squad with decent players and I just don't see that x-factor with Brereton. I was annoyed when he was sold originally but I think we've moved on from his level now.
 

Cloughie1975

John Robertson
I think you're over-egging the pace a bit unless he's turned into a flying machine since leaving us. And to be honest I think if Surrudge plays week in week out in the Championship for a decent team he's getting 20-odd goals.

Really we want to buy better than what we have, surely? Rather than just padding out the squad with decent players and I just don't see that x-factor with Brereton. I was annoyed when he was sold originally but I think we've moved on from his level now.
There’s absolutely no doubt in my mind that Ben Brereton is a better player than Sam Surridge (who is
a Championship standard striker).
The only question for me is-can Brereton make the step up to the Premier League?
I believe he can-and would back Steve Cooper to develop his game further.
All transfers are a risk-I think this is one worth taking.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
15m for one of our own academy players.

#GoVrentrzos #Businessnouse
Curious case: for about three years the common understanding was we'd had their pants down, then he was a one season wonder, now he won't make the step up.

I'd be all for him coming back - there are others I might want ahead of him, but in the he will make the step up... how long he will need is the only issue.

Fwiw I don't see it happening anyway, but he will do a decent job at his next club which will be at the top level somewhere.
 

Bob Fossil

Nottingham's dirty secret
Apart from pace, power and goal scoring ability I completely agree.

Brereton would fit in perfectly as the wide left forward with the false 9/number 10. He has shown he can play there or as an out and out striker. Like Mase alludes too, he scored 22 last season, is already on double figures this season, under 2 different managers/set ups so I personally don't think he is a one hit wonder. Even as a sub, I think he'd offer more than Surridge and Dennis purely down to his directness and pace.

We also have the trump card that is the sell on clause. I'd be more than happy to bring him back, I'd even float the idea of letting Surridge go to them on loan or as part of the package to bring him back.
Massively over-estimating his ability here lol.

Surridge looked quality in the Championship.
Brennan tore it up and has taken half a season to even start to adapt to the PL.
Davies is almost cheat mode in the Champ but never made an impact in the Prem.

The jump is huge. Nothing particularly stands out in Ben's game to suggest he'd take to the Prem- and I certainly wouldn't want to be relying on him should Awoniyi get injured.

Thankfully I refuse to believe Steve or the recruitment team are in for him.
 

youreds1986

Geoff Thomas
He'd suit the style of play and he's been consistently very good for a while now.

But does feel a risk on one hand whether he can step up. But there's risks in signing from abroad too.

I feel slightly more comfortable now that Taiwo is playing well. Feels that between the two of them we may get enough goals.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Apart from pace, power and goal scoring ability I completely agree.

Brereton would fit in perfectly as the wide left forward with the false 9/number 10. He has shown he can play there or as an out and out striker. Like Mase alludes too, he scored 22 last season, is already on double figures this season, under 2 different managers/set ups so I personally don't think he is a one hit wonder. Even as a sub, I think he'd offer more than Surridge and Dennis purely down to his directness and pace.

We also have the trump card that is the sell on clause. I'd be more than happy to bring him back, I'd even float the idea of letting Surridge go to them on loan or as part of the package to bring him back.
I am not 100% convinced he passes the eye test for one of those players that definitely stand out at that level though.

His numbers you can't argue with. But you need that X factor to make the step up. Adam Armstrong was the main man there before BB & he's managed 3 goals since. He was another quick player that's speed just isn't very effective at this level.

You mention his pace & power, but not convinced any of that would set him apart in the Prem - and he would need excellent goal scoring ability to counter that. We won't create him many chances & I don't think he has good technical ability.

Like I said in the other thread, if it's an easy deal to do and we intend on bringing somebody else in as well I would maybe risk it, but if he is our main attacking signing I would be hugely disappointed.
 

lavelleuk

First Team Squad
I think you're over-egging the pace a bit unless he's turned into a flying machine since leaving us. And to be honest I think if Surrudge plays week in week out in the Championship for a decent team he's getting 20-odd goals.

Really we want to buy better than what we have, surely? Rather than just padding out the squad with decent players and I just don't see that x-factor with Brereton. I was annoyed when he was sold originally but I think we've moved on from his level now.
With Surridge, maybe, but I mean this is a guy who has still only scored 41 league goals his whole career and never hit double figures, and best number of games in a season was five years ago, where he scored 8 in 41 in League Two

Even if he replicated his form for us he was still not on course for 20 goals a season, and that was the best form of his whole career to date. I like him, but I don't rate him as highly as some, and it's a bit of a stretch imo to assume he would score half of the goals he's got in his whole career (including league 2 and none league) in one season for a championship team based on what he's shown in the last year.
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
I am not 100% convinced he passes the eye test for one of those players that definitely stand out at that level though.

His numbers you can't argue with. But you need that X factor to make the step up. Adam Armstrong was the main man there before BB & he's managed 3 goals since. He was another quick player that's speed just isn't very effective at this level.

You mention his pace & power, but not convinced any of that would set him apart in the Prem - and he would need excellent goal scoring ability to counter that. We won't create him many chances & I don't think he has good technical ability.

Like I said in the other thread, if it's an easy deal to do and we intend on bringing somebody else in as well I would maybe risk it, but if he is our main attacking signing I would be hugely disappointed.
Know what you mean. As a second or back up striker he'd be better than what we have and if he does step up to the level required he'd be a bit of a bargin but I certainly wouldn't want to see us put all our eggs in a Brereton shaped basket.
 

DizzyBala

Jack Armstrong
I think all things considered, he'd be a great signing for the club.

I worry about how much it would take to bring him here, because it was reported that Blackburn wanted £15m from teams in January to take him, bearing in mind that he can leave on a free in the summer. While that fee seems steep for the potential buying club, he's one of the best chances of Blackburn getting promoted like Johnson was to us, so it's like, if they have to replace him, to do so is going to cost them money but also, potentially hurt their chances to get to the Premierleague.

In terms of him as a player, he was a boy when he last played for us, let's be honest and he really struggled after his move to Blackburn for two full seasons. Something like that can kill a young lad's career but the past couple of seasons for Blackburn, he's been their main man. He's started playing International football for Chile and all things considered, he is one of the best strikers outside the Premierleague.

When he was here, we played him as centre forward and also, as a right winger. Blackburn have played him as a centre forward and a left winger so he's pretty capable of playing anywhere along the front line which again suits how we want to play.

With regards to Surridge, I don't think they are comparable. I think in fairness to Sam, he's not had the run of games that Ben has and he's a competent finisher usually but if Ben came here, he's pushing Awoniyi for a starting spot. When it comes to Surridge and Dennis for that matter, it feels like we just bring them on because others are tired. It doesn't feel at any point like either of them come on and can change games of football.

If you really want to throw in the fact he was a Forest Academy player as some sort of endorsement then fair enough. His form in the past two seasons for Blackburn tells me that he wants it a lot more than when he was here and if he can do that in a some what familiar environment and show our fans what we were missing, all the better for it.
 

Carlton Cosmo

Youth Team
Brereton certianly has the physicality for a a counter attacking. My concern was his finishing when he was here because his technique was a very ragged however if that has tightened up than hell be a decent signing for our system.
Wasn't he only 17/18 years old when he was playing first team and scoring for forest?
 
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