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Stuart Pearce
Some workings out from Maguire
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Financial Fair Play (FFP)
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Annesleyred
Youth Team
Just take the bottom 10 teams out of the Premier League (That's what they would like) and let them bore themselves to death.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
true point and if it's any of Leics, Southampton and Leeds of their PSR 3 year rolling period they will have a EFL year too.
Ipswich, of course, will be similar to us and Luton.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
So am I but as i said the other day on that one, if the EPL did it, we'd see more of the likes of Kane and Bellingham going off to play in other European leagues, because if the likes of Newcastle, City, Arsenal can't pay a player what he wants because of a salary cap, he will go to a club who can.
Likewise, if it was a UEFA salary cap, then that wouldn't stop players swanning off to tinpot rich leagues like Saudi, UAE, Qatar...
It'd need to be global to stand any chance of working.
We already see this kind of talent drain with the MLS, which is a closed shop anyway, and from whence any player with some talent to make it as a reserve in a UEFA league (See also: Matt Turner) can rack up a load of appearances in the MLS then leave and do basically nothing for more money whilst piggy backing on the new club's achievements.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Hadn’t realised actually that Ipswich have been out of the PL nearly as long as we were.
Bing Crosby's Head
A. Trialist
Ipswich would actually be completely different as one of their years would be under League One's salary cost rules. God knows how that affects their overall PSR if they were in different leagues each year!
It's Baggio
John Robertson
Highest paid man in the Premier League.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Well it'd be less wouldn't it, they'd have 1 year at each of L1, CH and PL and the L1 limit would be even less than the CH one.
But only 1 year of PL limits still
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
Erm-Manchester City want a word.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
Does Marinakis want to own a club that has salary caps, etc?
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
He’d probably jump at it if it made Forest more competitive (and reduced the amount he
pumps in to keep the club afloat).
The problem there is, a Global Salary Cap stands no chance of really working, because of the financial disparity of various countries, especially those outside of Europe.
There is a reason why now, young players from the likes of Brazil and Argentina are only too willing to up sticks and move to Europe to sign for anyone, because the rewards are so much bigger.
If - for example - you said the “Cap“ was fifty thousand a week (or the local equivalent) absolutely nobody at all is on the equivalent of fifty grand a week in Brazil.
And in the US, whilst the MLS has a „cap“, there is the „Franchise Player“ tag which is exempt for that nominated player, so an MLS team can pay (for example) Lionel Messi a million dollars a week, if they want.
And again, it is just concentrating wealth at the top of the game, and you’ll get even worse incidents of mercenary scouts plundering Latin America and Africa looking for the „next big thing“.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
We can't know, but I suspect it's the other way around. A salary cap limits his ability to throw money at the problem to gain a competitive edge.
Additionally, a salary Cap in the EPL but no where else in Europe means one of the other leagues would quickly displace the EPL.as 'the best league in the world' because players will go where the $ is. Marinakis would want a team that excels in that league.
Bing Crosby's Head
A. Trialist
Yes but League One is a salary cap so doesn't fit in with looking at three years rolling PSR loses.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
Possibly,but ask yourself the question-was English football any the poorer with the 1st Division
before the Premier League/Sky takeover allowed the game to be flooded with overpaid foreign
mercenaries and (in some cases) dubious owners?
Redemption
One less gobshite...
I'm not discussing what I want but what I think Marinakis wants.
I doubt he cares about about mercenaries and overpaid players - it's just a cost of doing business.
He bought Forest as a way to get to the Premier League. He wants to get to the top of the league. He wants to pay top dollar for top players to win top prizes.
That's my take in what he wants.
But then for Ipswich, how would that even work? Because the rules for L1 are different to the Championship, and if a team goes L1->Champ->Premier League within that three-year period, then it just isn’t going to work at all, is it?
It is almost like the Premier League rules are a complete and utter load of bollocks, that don‘t take into account reality, or anything?
(or the prospect of a club „doing an Ipswich“ and going from League One to the top flight within three seasons).
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
Apart from players wages-the disparity in finances between the Premier League and the EFL
is one of the main problems in English football.
RedRobbo
Grenville Morris
Will start to reflect what the egg chasers are experiencing. Salary caps in the Premiership have resulted in a mass exodus of English players to France - with the effect ( due to a ridiculous restriction enforced by the RFU ) that the England team are shorn of half their first choice XV.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I'd argue those are the same thing.
That's our FFP for next year screwed then.
Bing Crosby's Head
A. Trialist
Well League One you can lose what you like provided wages are an allowable percentage of turnover so you couldn't really include that in PSR
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
With senior clubs going bust in Rugby Union (3 at the last count I think) and others deep in
trouble then I’d argue a salary cap is just what they need (a Leicester Tigers friend of mine
is giving up his season ticket due to the excessive price rise next season-presumably because
the club are paying the players too much).
The same with football-if we’re not the ‘best/contrived league in the world’ who f***ing cares?
Apart from the TV companies and plastic fans of course.
RedRobbo
Grenville Morris
Tell me about it Cloughie.
In addition to my season card at the CG - I had a season ticket for several years at Worcester Warriors.
The club no longer exists…
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
It’s quite simple they don’t want a regulator telling them how to conduct their business. I think what you are saying is far too conspiratorial.