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Have they changed the rules again?I'm told an appeal could lead to a further points deduction, which shocked me to be honest.
This definitely wasn't the case for the Everton appeal
Have they changed the rules again?I'm told an appeal could lead to a further points deduction, which shocked me to be honest.
For me -Is this the right time to gain a general consensus on how everyone has their Tea?
For me it's a Yorkshire tea bag, little splash of milk and one sugar
I don't like it - I feel we have been screwed over - but I agree.I'm pretty sure that if we were going to appeal, it's would have been stated as such by the club by now. Considering the tone of the club statement, it would have been declared in that. They have made their point but I think understand what a fruitless exercise dragging it out will be.
We have been given a lower deduction than the Prem League wanted, our rivals expected and most of us on here predicted.
Should we appeal and go down on goal difference there is no way they are going to change the relegation spots a few weeks later.
Having slept on it, I've retreated from the war zone and am now siding with the 'take medicine and move on' brigade. We need that clarity to draw a line under all this and just get on with the task at hand.
You make a very good point in my opinion. We probably need at least 3, probably 4 more windows of shrewd permanent recruitment (something Ross Wilson is beginning to deliver in my view) before we can start to look at establishing ourselves - hopefully under Nuno. In the meantime, we need to survive this season, and probably the next two. Hopefully EM and a section of the fanbase will temper their expectations accordingly.I think 20+ years away from the Premier League have diluted a lot of fans views of what top players are. We've clearly got the best talent we've had for 20+ years, but it is still poor by Premier League standards and the squad still ill balanced to be thinking anything near mid table yet.
I think we’re more likely to see a flying pig than EM temper his ‘ambition’.Hopefully EM and a section of the fanbase will temper their expectations accordingly.
Not when they know how many points they need to add to f^^k usImagine how much of a F You it would be to the league though if they increased your points deduction and you still survived.
Actually Col you are not, you made the point yesterday and I respect that you have a far greater knowledge than me in that regard. Your comment was taken as fact on that basis, I'm in no not position to question it mate I was surprised though!
When I speak of legal experts I mean those that act as such, as opposed to ones that actually practice it like yourself. Usually the ones that are experts in construction and planning too.
If that’s even remotely true then it’s absolutely insane and tells us all you need to know.
I think we’re more likely to see a flying pig than EM temper his ‘ambition’.
That was my initial thought but a good few people that understand it more than me have said that it is indeed the case.Have they changed the rules again?
This definitely wasn't the case for the Everton appeal
Do you have any evidence of this conversation then, or was it overheard by a Journo?So according to the Athletic, our finance director told EM that we would breach PSR in December last year.... He ignored the issue and here we are.
So for all the people saying it's not his fault as other people should have caught it, they did, they warned him and he ignored them.
Well if it's not true the club can sue the Athletic, or at least get a retraction posted.Do you have any evidence of this conversation then, or was it overheard by a Journo?
I disagree.And the fact that our primary mitigating argument that the whole case has hinged on (Brennan) has been exposed as being total, intelligence-insulting, bollocks.
Pretty sure they're just directly referring to this part of the judgement:So according to the Athletic, our finance director told EM that we would breach PSR in December last year.... He ignored the issue and here we are.
So for all the people saying it's not his fault as other people should have caught it, they did, they warned him and he ignored them.
I mean, the signings last January were not exactly brilliant. Wood, Shelvey, Ayew, Navas, Danillo, Felipe, ScarpaEven if EM did ignore it, without spending money in January we would’ve been relegated and then missed out on the hundred odd million we get from being in the PL again.
Unless people would’ve preferred us to play Wayne Hennessy in goal as Henderson’s replacement causing us to get battered every week.
Without Navas, Felipe and Danilo we would have been relegated its a calculated risk if we stay up this season tooI mean, the signings last January were not exactly brilliant. Wood, Shelvey, Ayew, Navas, Danillo, Felipe, Scarpa
Woods turned it around now, but his fee s this year anyway. Ayew and Shelvey waste of time. Navas was ok, but very expensive. Danillo was expensive at 17m, Felipe for 2. Was ok and Scarpa for free was a no brainer and we made allot of money on him.
Probably is tbh, they have a figure of 6.9m though.Pretty sure they're just directly referring to this part of the judgement:
"12.22 The Commission noted that there were few documents that demonstrated what Forest was doing about its PSR issue. There were no board meeting minutes and only a few emails or messages included within disclosure. Most communications were apparently oral. Mr Bonser, the Finance Director at Forest, did produce some forecasts of its PSR position. The first was on 22 August2022, the next was a week later and the next was on 29 September 2022. During this period, Forest was investing in players, so the PSR forecast was changing, but the last of these communications from Mr Bonser was forecasting a significant breach, absent intervention from the Club. These communications did not deter the Club from bringing further players in over the January 2023 transfer window"
With regards to Navas I'd have thought we could get similar levels from someone on loan for less wages. Navas did ok, nothing more than that, we did need him, but his wages were astronomical.Without Navas, Felipe and Danilo we would have been relegated its a calculated risk if we stay up this season too