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Stocky Red

First Team Squad
Redemption said:
There is something in the rules. It says the Commission can also set a compensation amount for impacted clubs.

Concurrent with the Everton Commission, several clubs - Forest, Leicester, Soton, Leeds and one other represented by bDe Marco - went to the High Court with the EPL to test if they should be allowed to present evidence to the Commission in order to set their compensation.

The court ruled in favour of the EPL that said it as long as the Commission did its job complying with the rules, the impacted clubs had no further case for involvement or litigation.
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Yeah, my point was more about whether there are any rules about the ability of parties (EPL and Forest) to negotiate and ultimately modify the official outcome of what is supposed to be an independent commission.
 
Redemption

Redemption

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PlayedOnGrass said:
Its strange - we all listen to the same thing and take different interpretations - that's life
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When Kevin Day asks him about the speculation from a journalist - and Day emphasises it is just one journalist speculating- that there is horse trading, he simply tries to think through the process - this is what 99% of the podcast series is - but he prefaces his comments with "the commission is supposed to be independent". I don't think there was anything in his response that implied he knows what the journalist is speculation is the case.
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
Redemption said:
When Kevin Day asks him about the speculation from a journalist - and Day emphasises it is just one journalist speculating- that there is horse trading, he simply tries to think through the process - this is what 99% of the podcast series is - but he prefaces his comments with "the commission is supposed to be independent". I don't think there was anything in his response that implied he knows what the journalist is speculation is the case.
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Apologies - I didn't realise that you were in the room with them.
 
Redemption

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Stocky Red said:
Yeah, my point was more about whether there are any rules about the ability of parties (EPL and Forest) to negotiate and ultimately modify the official outcome of what is supposed to be an independent commission.
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the criticism of the rules as they stand - by Everton and Agreed by the Appeal - was that the rules only say the Commission should determine the punishment, not howbitbshpuld be determined. So I would speculate that it's not allowed for the EPL to negotiate something that is expected for the commission to derive.
 
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Cloughie1975 said:
I strongly suspect Maguire knows a lot more than he’s letting on-he has his fingers in a
lot of pies.
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I find when he knows something he always let's on... that's part of his schtick on the show.

He either says directly 'he's heard' but can't repeat - as he did with the timing of the announcement - or he alludes to conversations with "secret insiders" or to his inclusion in "what'sApp groups".
 
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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
Redemption said:
the criticism of the rules as they stand - by Everton and Agreed by the Appeal - was that the rules only say the Commission should determine the punishment, not howbitbshpuld be determined. So I would speculate that it's not allowed for the EPL to negotiate something that is expected for the commission to derive.
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The telling bit for me in the Maguire podcast for me was that he stated ‘Nick (De Marco) always
encourages his clients to negotiate’.
I can only imagine that the EPL are desperate for the Forest and Everton cases to be finally
resolved before the season ends to prevent the campaign ending with appeals pending.
I’d be surprised if there’s not ongoing dialogue between the Independent Commission,EPL
and the clubs.
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
Redemption said:
I've listened to the podcast. Too many times now.

Are you saying it was his body language that gave the game away?
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I thought it was the hesitation in voice when asked the question and the tone of his voice sounded slightly different to the rest of the interview - as is he was very careful with is wording - to answer without saying anything.

Of course I could be wrong - but that was my interpretation having re-listened
 
andover red

andover red

Geoff Thomas
Is it right for us to decide whether or not to appeal before we know the outcome of the Everton hearing? What if we accept a 4 point penalty, but then Everton are subsequently given less (or even none)? Surely we would want to retain the right to appeal if the punishments were felt to be inconsistent?

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Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Redemption said:
He was coy about the timing of the announcement.

But not about the plea bargain.
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Just because this has carried on somewhat I'll add that's your interpretation and not a fact. The other poster is entitled to his own, and fwiw mine was the same as his. It's ok to interpret things differently, neither one can claim it as fact though.
 
redforest

redforest

Geoff Thomas
PlayedOnGrass said:
I have a work colleague who is a Liverpool season ticket holder.
Its true what you say - the 'tourists' are hated by the scouse's - they say they are taking rickets away from genuine supporters - but the club makes a fortune out of them by arranging 'weekend packages' flights, hotels and match tickets included for megamoney
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Don’t many of the season ticket holders flog their seats on the internet for hundreds of £ per match. Last week tickets were going for £1500!
 
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Flaggers

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Stocky Red

First Team Squad
Gyros Peter said:
Just because this has carried on somewhat I'll add that's your interpretation and not a fact. The other poster is entitled to his own, and fwiw mine was the same as his. It's ok to interpret things differently, neither one can claim it as fact though.
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This is so true, I always find it funny how posters present opinions and interpretations as factual statements
 
Redemption

Redemption

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Gyros Peter said:
Just because this has carried on somewhat I'll add that's your interpretation and not a fact. The other poster is entitled to his own, and fwiw mine was the same as his. It's ok to interpret things differently, neither one can claim it as fact though.
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Can we not discuss interpretations or are they too personal?
 
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