The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

[Ashley]

I don’t know why the whole conversation is revolving around capacity. A new main stand still leaves you with three stands that are extremely dated and need replacing even if they are replaced with stands of similar capacity.

The best option to me is to try and establish ourselves in the premier league and then look at building a new stadium on the current site whilst ground sharing elsewhere

The debate about moving away from the City Ground began because some people don't feel the plans for extending to 38k provides enough capacity.

I'm not sure how possible it would be to build a brand new stadium on the current site TBH.

 

[Masuka]

The debate about moving away from the City Ground began because some people don't feel the plans for extending to 38k provides enough capacity.

I'm not sure how possible it would be to build a brand new stadium on the current site TBH.

I agree the current site does have constraints and I have no idea how councils work but you would think rushcliffe council would do everything in their power to keep the ground in west bridgford with the money it brings into the local area. If that means booting a few people out of their houses then so be it

 

[Morpeth]

If you look at a map, it’s more like Newcastle/Sunderland is one big city with two clubs in it TBF. But they aren’t comparable in any case because there’s something different about football culture up there.

There’s no difference up here than anywhere else I’m afraid.

And Newcastle and Sunderland are two totally separate cities - there’s nothing to say other than that. Very similar in distance to Nottingham and Derby, but much more difficult to travel between.

 

[Yoghurt Slice]

Think I've agreed with Ashley on almost every point other than this is the prem, and it's likely imo that we could draw more fans than we currently might expect due to the marketing and exposure of the division. But for me, somewhere in the 38-45k capacity is the right target for now. That would involve a new PT stand, extended and joined up Bridgford end, and a new BC stand eventually. We could pull 50k fans for some games I think. But economics. Cost/benefit ratio in a largely unpredictable, results driven business. I think shooting for 50k right now would be financial suicide.

I think we should aim for the new PT stand to be a fair bit bigger than the current BC stand, to absorb mid-season attendance losses due to the loss of the stand while it's being rebuilt. Then go from there as and when. Ideally wrap the Bridgford end both tiers round to join, mirroring the other side as a 2nd stage. BC stand is well out date and built over the old stand, so needs replacing but hold off on that until the money and league status makes it make sense.

I've no chance of getting tickets next season (also I work most Saturdays and often evenings) but it'd be so so nice to be able to get one if I can make it to a match once or twice a year. Just not happening without either a) expansion or b) relegation.

 

[valspoodle]

If we like the current CG why not build a new ground identical to the current CG, but with slightly larger, more modern up-to-date stands. Convenient transport links, great foot outlets and pubs and a superb firework display area.

Then dig a bloody great lake that looks a bit like that section of the Trent.

 

[GOBIAS]

They,'re exactly what I want Forest to avoid

Don’t get me wrong. I want us to stay where we are. But I could be sold on the new ground if it was impressive and in the right location.

It would have certainly solve a lot of issues with spending a season playing in a 3 sided stadium when the PT is built, and possibly again if other stands are redeveloped.

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

Out of curiosity: has there been the slightest hint from the club that there are second thoughts to the plan to stay at the CG?

As for the capacity argument, I think you are missing the wider picture: ticket revenue is gradually becoming less important as the percentage of tv money in the balance sheets grows. And a growing part of the tv money in the future will depend on stadium atmosphere. To put it bluntly, a 38,000 full stadium on fire every single match will eventually make more money for the club than a half-empty most of the time 60,000 stadium. Not to mention the difference in helping the team perform better.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Out of curiosity: has there been the slightest hint from the club that there are second thoughts to the plan to stay at the CG?

As for the capacity argument, I think you are missing the wider picture: ticket revenue is gradually becoming less important as the percentage of tv money in the balance sheets grows. And a growing part of the tv money in the future will depend on stadium atmosphere. To put it bluntly, a 38,000 full stadium on fire every single match will eventually make more money for the club than a half-empty most of the time 60,000 stadium. Not to mention the difference in helping the team perform better.

We're miles behind on stadium income. While the TV revenue dwarfs what we'd take, it all helps, especially if we get relegated again. More income, tickets, conferences, restaurants etc etc would have helped with previous FFP breaches.

 

[Morpeth]

Out of curiosity: has there been the slightest hint from the club that there are second thoughts to the plan to stay at the CG?

As for the capacity argument, I think you are missing the wider picture: ticket revenue is gradually becoming less important as the percentage of tv money in the balance sheets grows. And a growing part of the tv money in the future will depend on stadium atmosphere. To put it bluntly, a 38,000 full stadium on fire every single match will eventually make more money for the club than a half-empty most of the time 60,000 stadium. Not to mention the difference in helping the team perform better.

If it’s that unimportant then make it 80k and give the tickets away for free.

 

[Redemption]

If it’s that unimportant then make it 80k and give the tickets away for free.

Thebworse thing in the world would be a half empty stadium because you can't give the tickets away!

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Thebworse thing in the world would be a half empty stadium because you can't give the tickets away!

Just ask Derby

 

[siforest65]

Daft I know, but I love the aftermath of the goal v Arsenal when Colin Fray says about the ball ending up low in the Trent End net. Stuff like that makes me glad we are hopefully sticking at the City Ground and not building a soulless bowl with imaginative names like the South Stand.

 

[Cloughie1975]

Daft I know, but I love the aftermath of the goal v Arsenal when Colin Fray says about the ball ending up low in the Trent End net. Stuff like that makes me glad we are hopefully sticking at the City Ground and not building a soulless bowl with imaginative names like the South Stand.

Yes-the ‘Sewer End’ at Stoke Bardolph doesn’t capture the imagination.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Daft I know, but I love the aftermath of the goal v Arsenal when Colin Fray says about the ball ending up low in the Trent End net. Stuff like that makes me glad we are hopefully sticking at the City Ground and not building a soulless bowl with imaginative names like the South Stand.

The Nicky Eaden Corner.

 

[valspoodle]

I always thought that a new stand or two would be required to improve the commercial offering at the club as well as adding to the fan numbers during games.

The current use of the ground every two weeks for nine months of the year does not make commercial sense. To have large and small conference venues, wedding (even) and party areas which could be used at times when the ground is not active as well as top class in-game hospitality would improve the whole view of the club as well as raising much needed revenue.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I always thought that a new stand or two would be required to improve the commercial offering at the club as well as adding to the fan numbers during games.

The current use of the ground every two weeks for nine months of the year does not make commercial sense. To have large and small conference venues, wedding (even) and party areas which could be used at times when the ground is not active as well as top class in-game hospitality would improve the whole view of the club as well as raising much needed revenue.

Problem is there isn't the demand for conferencing and hospitality in Nottingham like there is in London, Manchester or Birmingham.

I think if we're incorporating non-seating revenue from we have to think outside the box of what that could be. Something that encourages every day folk to traipse down not just business affiliations. Difficult when it's not in the city centre.

 

[eyupmeduck]

I always thought that a new stand or two would be required to improve the commercial offering at the club as well as adding to the fan numbers during games.

The current use of the ground every two weeks for nine months of the year does not make commercial sense. To have large and small conference venues, wedding (even) and party areas which could be used at times when the ground is not active as well as top class in-game hospitality would improve the whole view of the club as well as raising much needed revenue.

Its a good point, I'm not by any means suggesting that this would be a viable route for Forest but Spurs make over £100m a year from their stadium in ticket sales for matches but bring in loads from stuff like NFL matches, boxing matches and concerts as well.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

 

[Buster38]

Very nice. If you go through Felton on the way back get yourself to ‘The Running Fox’. It does afternoon tea which you can take away but the sizes and quality of the pies, sandwiches and scones are amazing and it’ll sort you out all the way home!

It's true that. Go to Widdrington a lot so The Running Fox (and Cook & Barker) are favourites with my lot. Size Matters!

 

[valspoodle]

Its a good point, I'm not by any means suggesting that this would be a viable route for Forest but Spurs make over £100m a year from their stadium in ticket sales for matches but bring in loads from stuff like NFL matches, boxing matches and concerts as well.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

That's exactly my point. These events both as you suggest and the other commercial prospects have to be fought for just like footballing success. Things don't fall into our laps, you have to go out and prospect, lure people in by having the facilities, both food and space, for their activities, whatever they may be.

To build a super stand with all the extra facilities there then just to stand back and say that's job done seems daft.

It's not easy, but then, nothing is unless you're born with a silver spoon.

 

[Bob D'Imsen]

Oh Out of Town Ground
The mist rolling in from Gotham
My desire is always to be here
Oh Out of Town Ground

Far I have travelled
And much have I seen,
Currys, PC World, are places I've been,
Poundland, Toys'R'Us,
Now echo the sound,
Of the boys in the red,
From the Out of Town Ground

 

[Timothy Pope]

Far I have travelled
And much have I seen,
Currys, PC World, are places I've been,
Poundland, Toys'R'Us,
Now echo the sound,
Of the boys in the red,
From the Out of Town Ground

 

[Bob D'Imsen]

Oh, no. The credit belongs to you, good sir.

I was merely clinging onto your coat tails.

 

[redun]

I agree the current site does have constraints and I have no idea how councils work but you would think rushcliffe council would do everything in their power to keep the ground in west bridgford with the money it brings into the local area. If that means booting a few people out of their houses then so be it

You have got to be joking.

 

[Rockabilly]

Far I have travelled
And much have I seen,
Currys, PC World, are places I've been,
Poundland, Toys'R'Us,
Now echo the sound,
Of the boys in the red,
From the Out of Town Ground

Brilliant!

 

[Eddie Yates]

Don't want any of that NFL bollocks played at the CG