Redemption
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"self-appointed"
I'm not sure who the question is directed at but I'll try and answer.Out of curiosity, how do you think the average fan will take to an improved catering service (managed internally) at a substantially higher cost?
probably. It is in most places to be fair.Is the catering still outsourced to a 3rd party?
It's piss poor.If there was acceptable beer in the concourse at reasonable price, they'd sell loads, before AND after the game if they set it up right.
Not being able to wash hands after a pee at half time, however, needs addressing immediately.
I think that is the problem. Its like me employing sub contractors to carry out works and not minotring what they have done. I mean surely in the name of sweet Mary someone can see the flaws here? Surely is not just outsourced and then not monitored?probably. It is in most places to be fair.
If they can outsource to a company then they have better supply benefits of economies of scale with their purchasing of course.
But they still have to make it work, which clearly it does not.
That’d be an insult to Port Vale!I think that is the problem. Its like me employing sub contractors to carry out works and not minotring what they have done. I mean surely in the name of sweet Mary someone can see the flaws here? Surely is not just outsourced and then not monitored?
The thing that makes me annoyed the most is that its not even difficult to improve, or costly if the bare minimum was to be met. If you are likely to use 30k bottles of water over a season, how can you run out? Youve got ONE f***ing job. Does someone bring it in the back of a car from another ground every week? "Yeah mate, 3 cases should be okay"
For so long Weve heard the outside world say how Forest are a ready made Prem club, able to make the step up etc and in terms of fansbase and ground yes, we are. In terms of matchday experience though we are probably comparable with Port Vale.
Are you a ST holder at Stuttgart mate? Its holds about 60k doesnt it?That’d be an insult to Port Vale!
Seriously though, there are companies out there who do this stuff for a living. Why the f@ck Forest limp on with their current frankly shit offerings is beyond me.
It is literally turning down money.
I remember at the last Members‘ meeting of the VfB, the CEO, Claus Vogt, was telling us how much money the club had lost in matchday revenue during the pandemic, when matches were played behind closed doors at first, then with limited attendances (typically 20% of capacity).
And it was a tidy sum with a lot of zeroes on the end.
Forest must do better here.
I am a Mitglieder (Club member) so - along with 75.000 or so others - I „own“ the club.Are you a ST holder at Stuttgart mate? Its holds about 60k doesnt it?
Over the summer on a trip back to Nottingham, I took my daughter to her first ever cricket match at Trent Bridge, the T20 against Derbyshire, which resulted in a thumping win for Nottinghamshire.Trent Bridge have a group of cleaners going around, cleaning and restocking. Bins are emptied on a regular basis. Never a problem.
Catering is varied and popular, as its been outsourced to various local concerns, who take great pride in doing a good job.
The one issue, is the beer. Like the City Ground, they sold out to a national brand and local independents are not allowed in.
And there's the mistake.Trent Bridge have a group of cleaners going around, cleaning and restocking. Bins are emptied on a regular basis. Never a problem.
Catering is varied and popular, as its been outsourced to various local concerns, who take great pride in doing a good job.
The one issue, is the beer. Like the City Ground, they sold out to a national brand and local independents are not allowed in.
It’s so obvious isn’t it.And there's the mistake.
I'm pretty sure Mr W who owns the Trent Nav and other splendid pubs in the area could do a better job at forest with his eyes shut, and a superb job with his eyes open.
He, or someone in a similar position - Mr Shipstones or Mrs Castle Rock I'm sure would be delighted to get the chance, and it's be a **** sake better than the crap currently poured.
Fixed sum or percentage, Forest would make a shit load of money. I'm sure I'm right in saying that if there was good stuff INSIDE the city ground pre-match we'd all be happy handing our £ over a Forest bar than e.g. Wetherspoons across the road.
Why should you pay so much, though?It’s so obvious isn’t it.
What are the beer options these days anyway?
I nearly cried when I went to Sunderland ground recently. Truly awful selection of Carling Dark Fruits which I’ve never even heard of and some local sludge from Vaux.
I’d pay £6 or £7 in the ground for crafty stuff, no problem.
MadriIt’s so obvious isn’t it.
What are the beer options these days anyway?
I nearly cried when I went to Sunderland ground recently. Truly awful selection of Carling Dark Fruits which I’ve never even heard of and some local sludge from Vaux.
I’d pay £6 or £7 in the ground for crafty stuff, no problem.
£5.50 a pint?Madri
Carling
Cold River Cider
Atlantic Pale Ale
£5.50/pint iirc
They could open the concourses at e.g. 12 for a 3pm. A few extra tellys and they could show the 5.30 game involving 2 clubs who are now our Premier League rivals while selling beer, pies etc and be open till 8-9 pm or even later. Why not? Other pubs do....All those mechanisms are too expensive to put in place for 40hrs per year.
Lol honestly I'd address it to the main man himself. You are far more likely to get an honest reply.Thing is, I dont think people would mind paying if they felt it was value. They now do a sausage roll that is absulutely amazing, but as youd expect, its more expensive than the shit theyve served up for 3 decades.
Its as if the catering is totally detached from the club. Whoever is running it clearly has a massive staff turnover because they pay shit wages, they are generally pretty useless too, have zero customer service skills and youre lucky if they can find a bottle of coke.
The club needs to take it in house and employ a team of people to orchastrate the most basic of things. You could literally come up with improvements if you had a post it note and a broken pencil.
To say its representative of the club and the ground I'm amazed its not been looked it before now, let alone in the close season. Its 2022 ffs.
Im that mad, Im going to write to someone about it, f*** it.
Who at the club would deal with it do you guys think?
They let the contract to Levy PLC last year.Thing is, I dont think people would mind paying if they felt it was value. They now do a sausage roll that is absulutely amazing, but as youd expect, its more expensive than the shit theyve served up for 3 decades.
Its as if the catering is totally detached from the club. Whoever is running it clearly has a massive staff turnover because they pay shit wages, they are generally pretty useless too, have zero customer service skills and youre lucky if they can find a bottle of coke.
The club needs to take it in house and employ a team of people to orchastrate the most basic of things. You could literally come up with improvements if you had a post it note and a broken pencil.
To say its representative of the club and the ground I'm amazed its not been looked it before now, let alone in the close season. Its 2022 ffs.
Im that mad, Im going to write to someone about it, f*** it.
Who at the club would deal with it do you guys think?
I think it’s a choice rather than being too difficult, what with the current ground being a bit crap. I was at Wembley during the euros and water cost money and the beer and food were awful, almost inedible and priced at about £14 for a crappy burger. Different competitions had different rules.A small bottle of water at the City Ground was £2.00.
At Wembley, I could fill my water bottle free of charge.
Water should be available at all times without needing to pay or queue, especially on such a humid and hot day.