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The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?


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Bob Fossil

Nottingham's dirty secret
I'm out of the loop on this.

Has anybody figured out how a £500m stadium would be financed? Or are we just in hypothetical dreamland?

If the answer to the former isn't yes I'm genuinely confused as to what the debate is.
 

sammy the snake

Jack Armstrong
You can shorten burocrats to Cnuts

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I’m all for bureaucracy as long as it delivers and follows democratic representation and a fully transparent process. What we believe about objections being unreasonable isn’t really going to count but we also know full well that process will be abused to the max. NIMBY objections are everywhere, some thoroughly justified.

What we ask is that either Nottingham Forest or RBC give their current view as to why it’s not moving forward? It’s not life or death here… but let’s have some facts. Club statement is massively well overdue
 

trentside69

Viv Anderson
I’m all for bureaucracy as long as it delivers and follows democratic representation and a fully transparent process. What we believe about objections being unreasonable isn’t really going to count but we also know full well that process will be abused to the max. NIMBY objections are everywhere, some thoroughly justified.

What we ask is that either Nottingham Forest or RBC give their current view as to why it’s not moving forward? It’s not life or death here… but let’s have some facts. Club statement is massively well overdue
I was thinking the same thing.
Does anyone even have a real up to date update?
It obviously takes time to arrange some things but it's turning into a drama because of the lack of an official update
 

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
I've been reading and I think the chaps have been most courteous to lady pen.
I'm not sure it would have turned out the same the username was hairy pete
Hairy Pete is a good name, Im not even called Pete, or particularly hairy, but the name has a ring to it.

Another name for Omar to adopt perhaps?
 

Redemption

One less gobshite...
Club statement is massively well overdue
We've had bits this year. The interview with Randall where he ummed and arghed about it but restated the intention.

Just 2 months ago, Marinakis renewed his commitment to the redevelopment in a letter to fans.

We are committed to retaining the soul of the stadium and its place in our history, whilst expanding it to create a modern venue commensurate with our bold ambitions.

And the new chairman, on his appointment, said "positive progress" was brring made.

And we're expecting an interview with Chairman soon.

What do you want to see in the the statement beyond what has been said?
 

chaospunx

Geoff Thomas
I've been reading and I think the chaps have been most courteous to lady pen.
I'm not sure it would have turned out the same the username was hairy pete
I'm giving up on that one as its increasingly hard to be courteous as her replies are very snide f*** your eastfield site go brainstorm another forum 🤣🤣
See what you have done trentside69 must remind myself not to look on this thread anymore
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
I'm out of the loop on this.

Has anybody figured out how a £500m stadium would be financed? Or are we just in hypothetical dreamland?

If the answer to the former isn't yes I'm genuinely confused as to what the debate is.
It is bizarre, isn't it? People think that we should build a massive state of the art stadium in a prime location but there's no argument put forward about how to finance this magical superstadium.

If we do end up leaving the City Ground, we aren't going to be getting the dream stadium that some people seem to think.

As I've said a few times in this thread, be very careful what you wish for.
 

Barry

Where's me hammer?
The points made without the agenda were fine.... but then the fan encroachment thing was so far left field, it was nearly at Eastcroft.

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REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
It is bizarre, isn't it? People think that we should build a massive state of the art stadium in a prime location but there's no argument put forward about how to finance this magical superstadium.

If we do end up leaving the City Ground, we aren't going to be getting the dream stadium that some people seem to think.

As I've said a few times in this thread, be very careful what you wish for.
This is the point I continuously make, theres no logic being applied to the original plan, let alone the plan of dreams.

Weve gone from being happy with the redevolpment plan, to not being happy with the location or amount of sanitory towel dispensers, in a plan that doesnt even exist.

Its a hard knock life for big Marra!
 

redun

Youth Team
The Club have got planning for their scheme but either can't or won't comply with the conditions that go with it. That's the position at the moment as I see it.

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Wes' Organ

Biggles
I chose this forum rather than any other because it seemed to me that there were a good number of intelligent and balanced posters. I have not posted anywhere on anything else. If I were tempted, I have to say I'd look at your contribution to this debate and seriously consider whether it would be worth it. Debate is debate, different points of view come in to play, nothing in this world stays the same.
Let's agree to disagree about stadium location, the facilities, the future potential and let's play nicely.
Very professional of you.
 

It's Baggio

John Robertson
I'm out of the loop on this.

Has anybody figured out how a £500m stadium would be financed? Or are we just in hypothetical dreamland?

If the answer to the former isn't yes I'm genuinely confused as to what the debate is.

The forum wouldn't have many posts at all if people didn't debate hypothetical's. I think it's been an interesting couple of pages & nice to read a few different POV's.

Hopefully we can find a way to stay at the CG, build the new Main Stand & then develop/renew the Bridgford/Clough stand's to get us to somewhere around 42k, which should help satisfy the (current) demand without leaving something of a white elephant should we ever drop back down into the Championship.

That said, who pays for all that & how long does it take? If the Main Stand rebuild is dependant on the new flats then what pays for the rest of it? Also on current timescales it'd take about 30 years, plus you've got the hassle & loss of revenue that comes from playing at a reduced capacity during construction. Maybe if there is an opportunity for a new build on a suitable site as part of a wider scheme of regeneration then they'd look at it.

Apologies for the hypotheticals & no, I don't work for the council, a developer or drink at the boat club.
 

Bob Fossil

Nottingham's dirty secret
The forum wouldn't have many posts at all if people didn't debate hypothetical's. I think it's been an interesting couple of pages & nice to read a few different POV's.

Hopefully we can find a way to stay at the CG, build the new Main Stand & then develop/renew the Bridgford/Clough stand's to get us to somewhere around 42k, which should help satisfy the (current) demand without leaving something of a white elephant should we ever drop back down into the Championship.

That said, who pays for all that & how long does it take? If the Main Stand rebuild is dependant on the new flats then what pays for the rest of it? Also on current timescales it'd take about 30 years, plus you've got the hassle & loss of revenue that comes from playing at a reduced capacity during construction. Maybe if there is an opportunity for a new build on a suitable site as part of a wider scheme of regeneration then they'd look at it.

Apologies for the hypotheticals & no, I don't work for the council, a developer or drink at the boat club.
Personally I find tens of dozens of pages dedicated to the ifs as and buts of moving to a make believe stadium when it's not even a remote possibility a bit weird & pointless.

But you do you. I guess.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
It is bizarre, isn't it? People think that we should build a massive state of the art stadium in a prime location but there's no argument put forward about how to finance this magical superstadium.

If we do end up leaving the City Ground, we aren't going to be getting the dream stadium that some people seem to think.

As I've said a few times in this thread, be very careful what you wish for.

No one is asking for a Spurs type stadium.

Yes financing a new stadium of any sort will be expensive, but you'll have the same issue at the CG if we do establish ourselves in the top flight as once the PT stand is complete then the Bridgford and Brian Clough stands will seriously need looking at both from a capacity and facilities POV, and that will come with more challenges given disruption and space concerns, with no further ability to offset costs through building some flats.

You can argue that just redeveloping the PT stand is enough but that's as much a belief as those who like the idea of a new stadium.

FWIW I'm on the fence and see merits and drawbacks of both. Ultimately I think the most sensible thing to do is pause our current plans and see where we are in three years time, both in terms of league were playing in and demand for tickets.
 
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