I’m all for bureaucracy as long as it delivers and follows democratic representation and a fully transparent process. What we believe about objections being unreasonable isn’t really going to count but we also know full well that process will be abused to the max. NIMBY objections are everywhere, some thoroughly justified.You can shorten burocrats to Cnuts
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I've been reading and I think the chaps have been most courteous to lady pen.I've got to laugh at the backtrack from some members because a 'lady' that appears to be in the know has arrived, just in case she knows 'something' that you can later claim was a good idea.
I was thinking the same thing.I’m all for bureaucracy as long as it delivers and follows democratic representation and a fully transparent process. What we believe about objections being unreasonable isn’t really going to count but we also know full well that process will be abused to the max. NIMBY objections are everywhere, some thoroughly justified.
What we ask is that either Nottingham Forest or RBC give their current view as to why it’s not moving forward? It’s not life or death here… but let’s have some facts. Club statement is massively well overdue
Hairy Pete is a good name, Im not even called Pete, or particularly hairy, but the name has a ring to it.I've been reading and I think the chaps have been most courteous to lady pen.
I'm not sure it would have turned out the same the username was hairy pete
We CAN wait... really ?
We've had bits this year. The interview with Randall where he ummed and arghed about it but restated the intention.Club statement is massively well overdue
We are committed to retaining the soul of the stadium and its place in our history, whilst expanding it to create a modern venue commensurate with our bold ambitions.
Some people can't, apparently.We CAN wait... really ?
I'm giving up on that one as its increasingly hard to be courteous as her replies are very snide f*** your eastfield site go brainstorm another forumI've been reading and I think the chaps have been most courteous to lady pen.
I'm not sure it would have turned out the same the username was hairy pete
It is bizarre, isn't it? People think that we should build a massive state of the art stadium in a prime location but there's no argument put forward about how to finance this magical superstadium.I'm out of the loop on this.
Has anybody figured out how a £500m stadium would be financed? Or are we just in hypothetical dreamland?
If the answer to the former isn't yes I'm genuinely confused as to what the debate is.
I was remarking on the spelling/grammar in the image just to clarify, as im not sure thats what they meantSome people can't, apparently.
I posted it as I recalled some posters on this thread remarked on its demise.
This is the point I continuously make, theres no logic being applied to the original plan, let alone the plan of dreams.It is bizarre, isn't it? People think that we should build a massive state of the art stadium in a prime location but there's no argument put forward about how to finance this magical superstadium.
If we do end up leaving the City Ground, we aren't going to be getting the dream stadium that some people seem to think.
As I've said a few times in this thread, be very careful what you wish for.
Very professional of you.I chose this forum rather than any other because it seemed to me that there were a good number of intelligent and balanced posters. I have not posted anywhere on anything else. If I were tempted, I have to say I'd look at your contribution to this debate and seriously consider whether it would be worth it. Debate is debate, different points of view come in to play, nothing in this world stays the same.
Let's agree to disagree about stadium location, the facilities, the future potential and let's play nicely.
I'm out of the loop on this.
Has anybody figured out how a £500m stadium would be financed? Or are we just in hypothetical dreamland?
If the answer to the former isn't yes I'm genuinely confused as to what the debate is.
Will spotted.I was remarking on the spelling/grammar in the image just to clarify, as im not sure thats what they meant
Personally I find tens of dozens of pages dedicated to the ifs as and buts of moving to a make believe stadium when it's not even a remote possibility a bit weird & pointless.The forum wouldn't have many posts at all if people didn't debate hypothetical's. I think it's been an interesting couple of pages & nice to read a few different POV's.
Hopefully we can find a way to stay at the CG, build the new Main Stand & then develop/renew the Bridgford/Clough stand's to get us to somewhere around 42k, which should help satisfy the (current) demand without leaving something of a white elephant should we ever drop back down into the Championship.
That said, who pays for all that & how long does it take? If the Main Stand rebuild is dependant on the new flats then what pays for the rest of it? Also on current timescales it'd take about 30 years, plus you've got the hassle & loss of revenue that comes from playing at a reduced capacity during construction. Maybe if there is an opportunity for a new build on a suitable site as part of a wider scheme of regeneration then they'd look at it.
Apologies for the hypotheticals & no, I don't work for the council, a developer or drink at the boat club.
We're on the same page!I don’t want to leave the City Ground ever. We’ve lost our soul if we do , and I think EM knows it.
So I don’t read long posts about fanciful new grounds elsewhere. Simple.
It is bizarre, isn't it? People think that we should build a massive state of the art stadium in a prime location but there's no argument put forward about how to finance this magical superstadium.
If we do end up leaving the City Ground, we aren't going to be getting the dream stadium that some people seem to think.
As I've said a few times in this thread, be very careful what you wish for.