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The Relegation Dogshite 23/24

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
It used to be hope that killed us...

Now it's the waiting.
 

Mr. Blonde

Jack Burkitt
Yes,Rocka-but if they hammer us then they must surely do the same with Everton.
We need to start winning.
The thing that gives me hope is there are very few games that we've lost recently where we've been played off the park

Even Arsenal only managed to beat us by one goal, and three 3-2 defeats where to be honest would should have drawn

I honestly think we're way better a side than either teams that played tonight and even with a points deduction we could well be fine

That's the hope anyway
 

Larry Lansbury

Viv Anderson
Really hope Everton go down-don’t think they will though. They’re a dismal team to watch, but set pieces get them through. Another one tonight, it all pretty basic stuff.
 

Trents

John Robertson
That would be the dream, Everton to drop and have 500 champ away fans every other week echoing in their shiney new stadium.

I recon the Premier League are itching to see them go down too. A bit like The EFL were with Derby in the end.
 

Major Oak Morgan

First Team Squad
Did anyone hear the guy on Forest Focus talking XG stats? Forest are near the top for both lowest XG against and highest XG for since Nuno took over . I know it could be considered a bollox metric but it does give some indication that we have played really well since Nuno has been here. Keep playing as we are and we should be fine, even with points deduction.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Did anyone hear the guy on Forest Focus talking XG stats? Forest are near the top for both lowest XG against and highest XG for since Nuno took over . I know it could be considered a bollox metric but it does give some indication that we have played really well since Nuno has been here. Keep playing as we are and we should be fine, even with points deduction.
Saw the stats as someone posted them here - we're third best for shipping chances (xg against) in Nuno's games, which is pretty impressive, especially when conceding three goals a week for lots of it. While that points to xg being a bit shit as a stat (shipping three goals with Los xg against) it shows that If we can just sort the set piece thing out we are good to go at the back.

Felipe will help there. I like Niakhate a lot but no way does the handsome one allow that second Newcastle goal to happen.

Also great we are making chances, though I want to see us become more ruthless there. It's hard to criticise Elanga given his input, but he could have had a hattrick on Saturday (admittedly one of which he made himself). I'd love see see us become one of those prem teams who takes four out of their five chances week in/out. Seems to be what the really good teams do.
 

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Did anyone hear the guy on Forest Focus talking XG stats? Forest are near the top for both lowest XG against and highest XG for since Nuno took over . I know it could be considered a bollox metric but it does give some indication that we have played really well since Nuno has been here. Keep playing as we are and we should be fine, even with points deduction.
Aye… his name is Mark Southern. Talks a lot of sense and knows his stuff. I like listening to him.
 

Monkman

Grenville Morris
Also great we are making chances, though I want to see us become more ruthless there. It's hard to criticise Elanga given his input, but he could have had a hattrick on Saturday (admittedly one of which he made himself). I'd love see see us become one of those prem teams who takes four out of their five chances week in/out. Seems to be what the really good teams do.
3rd best shot conversion rate under Nuno, apparently, so we're not doing badly on that front :D

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Trents

John Robertson
3rd best shot conversion rate under Nuno, apparently, so we're not doing badly on that front :D

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Now I don't like to Cooper bash and hate the overuse of xG but the numbers as they say do not lie.

SCs main approach since promotion was defend first and catch out when possible so not surprised he was midtable for that xG against. I think the fact Nuno has improved not only on that base but on expected goals too speaks volumes.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
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Bet365 odds.

Seems about right...
 

Robertson

Viv Anderson
Now I don't like to Cooper bash and hate the overuse of xG but the numbers as they say do not lie.

SCs main approach since promotion was defend first and catch out when possible so not surprised he was midtable for that xG against. I think the fact Nuno has improved not only on that base but on expected goals too speaks volumes.
It’s the old adage that sometimes attack is the best form of defence I suppose.
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
I am surprised at the bookies giving any odds on Forest or Everton, given both could have significant points deductions.
Taken to it's logical conclusion, the odds given for any of the teams are a bit previous as the Forest and Everton situation could, theoretically see both relegated and 2 of the more likely candidates saved.
But I am not a betting man, as I don't really understand how the bookies calculate the odds and if don't know how the other party in the transaction is setting the parameters I don't fully undestand the bet, and as such I wouldn't be tempted.
 

Cloughie1975

John Robertson
I am surprised at the bookies giving any odds on Forest or Everton, given both could have significant points deductions.
Those odds may change today if the outcome of Everton’s appeal is announced.
This may give a slight clue as to Forest’s likely deduction and possibly shed some more light on what we
might need to survive.
 
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