The FA Cup Thread

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
If I'm answering as a 14 year old boy then yes but if I'm answering as a 50 year old man with daughters older than what CG was in Gregory's girl then obviously it's a no
Aye, I meant back in the day.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
I never get this argument. What difference would it make to his legacy if he started at Cardiff?

He has managed those sides from the start because he is the best at managing world class players. The best by a country mile.

Whatever Pep does, everybody else does 3-4 years later - and by the time everybody has caught on he has developed a new way of playing which is superior to that one. That is a revolutionary coach and he does it over and over again.
Completely agree. There are plenty of examples of clubs chucking a lot of money at things and not winning things (Chelsea being the latest example).

Plus there is just winning the odd trophy, then there is being serial winners after having to dismantle, rebuild and innovate over and over again.

Pep is a top class manager. Even if he started somewhere like Cardiff, I think he'd have eventually find himself at the top anyway (like Ferguson did after Aberdeen). He's an innovator and revolutionary.
 

Farmer Jack

Stuart Pearce
Beckham in the crowd.

"Owww Victowwia. I ain't 'appy about all this today. Bad day at the office for UniTED. I wish I was queuing up with Philip and Holly. Seemed less stressful".

"Will you cook me sumFING like my good mate Gordan WAMSEY?"

Mug

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Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Completely agree. There are plenty of examples of clubs chucking a lot of money at things and not winning things (Chelsea being the latest example).

Plus there is just winning the odd trophy, then there is being serial winners after having to dismantle, rebuild and innovate over and over again.

Pep is a top class manager. Even if he started somewhere like Cardiff, I think he'd have eventually find himself at the top anyway (like Ferguson did after Aberdeen). He's an innovator and revolutionary.
They don't even spend much more than anyone else since Pep has been there:

 

Farmer Jack

Stuart Pearce

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Yes, they spend big money on a signing or two they need to push them on (as any club at that end of the league will do) but it doesn't go much further than that.

Pep always comes across as classier than managers of some of the other big clubs do. Class bloke, class manager IMO.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
The only manager that has been openly disrespectful when talking about us this season.

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Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Yes, they spend big money on a signing or two they need to push them on (as any club at that end of the league will do) but it doesn't go much further than that.

Pep always comes across as classier than managers of some of the other big clubs do. Class bloke, class manager IMO.
Just examples from this season:

He sells Jesus, replaces him with Haaland

Sells Cancelo & Zinchenko, ends up changing his system to adapt and turns John Stones into prime Busquets.

Agree, he is classy - and made even better that Man United & Liverpool fans absolutely hate him because he nicks all the trophies they think belong to them. It is why I have a soft spot for Man City in general, the established "elite" absolutely hate them.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Somewhat ironic we are discussing a managers fiscal responsibility when the club itself has allegedly breached ffp over a hundred times.

(That's not to say I don't rate the manager)
I genuinely do not give a crap about that.

The system is rigged against smaller clubs, the only way they could challenge top clubs was to break FFP rules. It just emphasises what a farce they are to begin with.

If we continue our growth we will get to a point where we will hit a cap of how much we can grow because the system is there to protect the elite clubs. Some clubs are allowed to spend more than others because of their size, it's a complete piss take.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
I genuinely do not give a crap about that.

The system is rigged against smaller clubs, the only way they could challenge top clubs was to break FFP rules. It just emphasises what a farce they are to begin with.

If we continue our growth we will get to a point where we will hit a cap of how much we can grow because the system is there to protect the elite clubs.
That's a different argument isn't it? I agree FFP is hugely flawed, but if they broke the rules everyone else is adhering to then they should be punished, and we shouldn't really be applauding their spending.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Just examples from this season:

He sells Jesus, replaces him with Haaland

Sells Cancelo & Zinchenko, ends up changing his system to adapt and turns John Stones into prime Busquets.

Agree, he is classy - and made even better that Man United & Liverpool fans absolutely hate him because he nicks all the trophies they think belong to them. It is why I have a soft spot for Man City in general, the established "elite" absolutely hate them.
Forest's medical staff could turn John Stones into biscuits though.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Just examples from this season:

He sells Jesus, replaces him with Haaland

Sells Cancelo & Zinchenko, ends up changing his system to adapt and turns John Stones into prime Busquets.

Agree, he is classy - and made even better that Man United & Liverpool fans absolutely hate him because he nicks all the trophies they think belong to them. It is why I have a soft spot for Man City in general, the established "elite" absolutely hate them.
I've always been a big fan of Pep, even back when he was Barcelona manager (what a team that was!). He's smart and adaptable, and makes players better. I agree that most of the criticism comes from bitterness, especially from United and Liverpool fans.

I genuinely think he'd be successful at any club you put him in.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Pep, as a Coach, is on an entirely different level to anyone else currently in the game.

He has taken the lessons from his own master, Johan Cruijff, and revolutionised the way the game is played.

And he’s made John Stones look like Franz Beckenbauer.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Pep, as a Coach, is on an entirely different level to anyone else currently in the game.

He has taken the lessons from his own master, Johan Cruijff, and revolutionised the way the game is played.

And he’s made John Stones look like Franz Beckenbauer.
Even as a fan of Pep, I was unsure about the Stones signing. But he's turned Stones into an outstanding player.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Pep changed FC Bayern so much, they still play the way he set them up years ago.

That is how you show yourself as a world-class coach. He’s a borderline genius when it comes to football, because he just sees things others miss.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
That's a different argument isn't it? I agree FFP is hugely flawed, but if they broke the rules everyone else is adhering to then they should be punished, and we shouldn't really be applauding their spending.
Yeah I don't disagree entirely.

It's just I don't really care whether they twisted the rigged rules in their favour because when you look at how they are ran now it just emphasizes how stupid the rules are.

If they were still at it in their position they are in now I would give less sympathy, but most of the charges are from when they first came in and had to break them to compete with others.
 
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