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First Team Squad
Just chatting with my wife about Forest, points deductions etc and I said it’s not really much fun being in the premier league at the moment “No, it was much more fun getting there” she says.
Well, the final 8 months of the journey were. The other 268, not so much.Just chatting with my wife about Forest, points deductions etc and I said it’s not really much fun being in the premier league at the moment “No, it was much more fun getting there” she says.
Laugh at the Jocks for not knowing what they were doing?Today I learned Captain John McGovern was never capped by the Jocks. What in the good name of hell should I do with this information!?
Funnily enough, the Guardian did a piece a couple of weeks back, where they were talking about players who had won European Cups and never been internationally capped.Today I learned Captain John McGovern was never capped by the Jocks. What in the good name of hell should I do with this information!?
Didn't the Sweaties think he was English?Today I learned Captain John McGovern was never capped by the Jocks. What in the good name of hell should I do with this information!?
Should have read his name.Didn't the Sweaties think he was English?
Yup, that was about it. It was said that all of Forest’s Scottish contingent would be in the squad (for the 1978 World Cup, I think this was) and the press duly got a pic of messrs Burns, Gemmill, Robertson and McGovern in kilts (was it Forest shirts and kilts or am I imagining that?). But only the first three were picked because they didn’t realise Border was Scottish. It seems they also overlooked the veteran John O’Hare, not unreasonably perhaps, though he had still been lively enough to get away from Phil Thompson to win the decisive penalty in the League Cup Final replay!Didn't the Sweaties think he was English?
By jingo, who would have thought that John McGovern, born in Montrose, wasn’t Scottish!Yup, that was about it. It was said that all of Forest’s Scottish contingent would be in the squad (for the 1978 World Cup, I think this was) and the press duly got a pic of messrs Burns, Gemmill, Robertson and McGovern in kilts (was it Forest shirts and kilts or am I imagining that?). But only the first three were picked because they didn’t realise Border was Scottish. It seems they also overlooked the veteran John O’Hare, not unreasonably perhaps, though he had still been lively enough to get away from Phil Thompson to win the decisive penalty in the League Cup Final replay!
Yup, that was about it. It was said that all of Forest’s Scottish contingent would be in the squad (for the 1978 World Cup, I think this was) and the press duly got a pic of messrs Burns, Gemmill, Robertson and McGovern in kilts (was it Forest shirts and kilts or am I imagining that?). But only the first three were picked because they didn’t realise Border was Scottish. It seems they also overlooked the veteran John O’Hare, not unreasonably perhaps, though he had still been lively enough to get away from Phil Thompson to win the decisive penalty in the League Cup Final replay!
Today I learned Captain John McGovern was never capped by the Jocks.
Do you live at the ground mate?Floodlight Friday again
One of my young uns goes to the academy there on a FridayDo you live at the ground mate?
I firmly believed then, and still do, that Border deserved to go to Argentina, but it shouldn't be forgotten that there was a contingent of idiots amongst the Forest fanbase at that time who somehow managed to convince themselves that he wasn't good enough for us let alone Scotland.Yup, that was about it. It was said that all of Forest’s Scottish contingent would be in the squad (for the 1978 World Cup, I think this was) and the press duly got a pic of messrs Burns, Gemmill, Robertson and McGovern in kilts (was it Forest shirts and kilts or am I imagining that?).
Didn’t Ally McLeod, the Scottish manager, do what Southgate is going to do and take trusted out of form players like Don Masson instead ?I firmly believed then, and still do, that Border deserved to go to Argentina, but it shouldn't be forgotten that there was a contingent of idiots amongst the Forest fanbase at that time who somehow managed to convince themselves that he wasn't good enough for us let alone Scotland.
I can't recall if Masson was out of form at that time TF, but I'm happy to accept your word.Didn’t Ally McLeod, the Scottish manager, do what Southgate is going to do and take trusted out of form players like Don Masson instead ?
Yes, quite a few fans seemed to want him to be a goal-scoring, box-to-box, get-stuck-in all-rounder spraying 40-yard passes, etc. Whereas he seemed highly valued by his teammates (and Cloughie) as someone who would calmly break up opposition attacks, winning the ball and passing it to someone more creative. I think he wasn’t helped by his physique and his running style, which maybe made it look a bit like he was holding back, but he could certainly hold his own with some of the more obviously physical opposing midfielders and I can certainly recall him getting under the skin of one or two of Liverpool’s so-called hard men.I firmly believed then, and still do, that Border deserved to go to Argentina, but it shouldn't be forgotten that there was a contingent of idiots amongst the Forest fanbase at that time who somehow managed to convince themselves that he wasn't good enough for us let alone Scotland.
Yes, quite a few fans seemed to want him to be a goal-scoring, box-to-box, get-stuck-in all-rounder spraying 40-yard passes, etc. Whereas he seemed highly valued by his teammates (and Cloughie) as someone who would calmly break up opposition attacks, winning the ball and passing it to someone more creative. I think he wasn’t helped by his physique and his running style, which maybe made it look a bit like he was holding back, but he could certainly hold his own with some of the more obviously physical opposing midfielders and I can certainly recall him getting under the skin of one or two of Liverpool’s so-called hard men.
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Souness losing his shit because wee John had him on toast for 4 straight years
f***ing bully, if he'd tried that with Burnsie or Big Larry they'd have levelled the prick
As clear a penalty as your ever likely to seeYup, that was about it. It was said that all of Forest’s Scottish contingent would be in the squad (for the 1978 World Cup, I think this was) and the press duly got a pic of messrs Burns, Gemmill, Robertson and McGovern in kilts (was it Forest shirts and kilts or am I imagining that?). But only the first three were picked because they didn’t realise Border was Scottish. It seems they also overlooked the veteran John O’Hare, not unreasonably perhaps, though he had still been lively enough to get away from Phil Thompson to win the decisive penalty in the League Cup Final replay!