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Steve Cooper will always be the MAN!
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Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
Only way I think this could happen is if we get a spanking in the next 2 games. The club could make the announcement as a PR exercise to lift spirits. It's a bit Mark Arthur-like but could happen.
Harvey
Chrissy Cohen
Everyone had written off MGW signing then all of a sudden it's fact.
Steeeeeevie Cooper who hates the Southampton and who hates the Derby will sign, don't worry.
Steeeeeevie Cooper who hates the Southampton and who hates the Derby will sign, don't worry.
Eddie Yates
Steve Chettle
Apologies for getting on my high horse over the deaths of 6k migrant workers
Anyway which bit isn't true
& yet you then agree with me & say the WC shouldn't be held in Qatar
Have you been starved of oxygen
I have been there, and would not really want to go again. I have also been to Kuwait (much nicer, well, it was when we were done) and some of the other Emirates.
To be honest, I am with Edward here, I am completely uncomfortable with FIFA awarding a World Cup to somewhere like Qatar. Nothing against the country personally, as It were, but their government (such as it is) and insular policies is a million miles away from the inclusive, welcoming spirit football is supposed to represent.
You cannot allow such despotic governments to whitewash civil rights and personal liberties, simply because they‘ve bunged a few quid into the right envelopes to somehow get awarded the greatest football tournament on the planet.
That is not right, on a number of levels.
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
The big problem is the vast wealth of these oil rich countries. They can literally outbid almost anyone for the sporting rights that they want and people like Eddie Hearn and others will take them up on it (the already fabulously rich golfers for instance) and then make feeble attempts to justify the money grab.
And there is nothing the rest of us can do about it.
And there is nothing the rest of us can do about it.
It isn‘t just „outbidding“ commercially VP, they have such incredible, incalculable wealth, they can somehow make sure money ends up in the right place to influence decisions, too, such as those which saw the World Cup awarded to Qatar (which, let us not forget, is about the size of Birmingham) in the first place.
The right money ends up in the right hands - such as that which happened to secure the World Cup for Russia in 2018 - and as you say, there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Eddie Yates
Steve Chettle
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I've worked in other places in the ME & usually find the people friendly & welcoming but I would still be very uncomfortable with Gaddaffi's Libya or Assad's Syria being a awarded a WC despite how nice the locals are
As I've said numerous times the hypocrisy behind it makes me want to puke
I've never been to Qatar & I don't need to to understand that's its not right to hold a significant world sporting event there
I've worked in other places in the ME & usually find the people friendly & welcoming but I would still be very uncomfortable with Gaddaffi's Libya or Assad's Syria being a awarded a WC despite how nice the locals are
As I've said numerous times the hypocrisy behind it makes me want to puke
Absolutely with you there Edward.
I can honestly say, there is one gulf state in which the large German conglomerate does not maintain an office, and that is Qatar, because, well, you guess.
And we have a substantial presence in Dubai (and we even have a small, albeit limited, Sales office in Iran).
Chappers85
Can't Play Left-Back
I think there's very few people that would disagree. It was a disgrace Qatar were awarded the World Cup, and the subsequent proven corruption within FIFA at the highest level, makes that decision even more dubious. The reported deaths, horrific laws and human rights violations are grim to say the least. Had major governments and sponsors withdrawn their support early on, it might have made a difference. The hypocrisy of players wearing rainbow armbands or shoe laces, or talking about social injustices and prejudice every week, then going off to play in Qatar is also unsettling. But at the same time I don't blame them. We're all a bunch of hypocrites, full of contradictions trying to bend morality to fit practicality. I hate to be so bloody nihilistic, but the world runs on money not principles. Will I still watch it? Probably. I do respect those that choose not to. Ultimately, it won't make any difference either way.
Eddie Yates
Steve Chettle
I'll have a look tomorrow & see if the large German organisation I work for have a presence in those countries, I know we have in Dubai
Think I'll do that instead of doing the wanky yearly online course about ethics & bribery that I scheduled in
Eddie Yates
Steve Chettle
I feel for the players, playing a WC is once in a lifetime for most so its a big ask to boycott it
That can't be said of the big European Associations such as England, France, Germany & Spain, those 4 could've nipped this in the bad back in 2010
f***ing shame on them
Ah, compliance training. They love it.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
I like to think he is just waiting to the end of the window. We know Cooper sets standards, maybe he is wanting it from the club.
If we get past the end of the window and no deal has still been signed I will be disappointed in him. We have given Cooper everything he would have wanted and have invested heavily in him, I think it should be repayed.
If we get past the end of the window and no deal has still been signed I will be disappointed in him. We have given Cooper everything he would have wanted and have invested heavily in him, I think it should be repayed.
Haych
John Robertson
I don’t think it was possible to show him we mean business more than we have this summer, especially with how we went about delivering MGW.
Redemption
Chief Eye Roller
Just trolling the fans for kicks. Fair play.
Quntib Hollox
Jack Armstrong
We don’t know what’s going off in his private life. It’s even mentioned his dad has health issues. Could be that he doesn’t feel he can commit long term here whilst that is hanging over him?
justnotjase
Viv Anderson
I think the fact the likes of MGW signed and referenced Cooper, means he knows he's likely to be here long term. As long term as any manager is likely to be in football anyway, as we know things change very quickly.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
You'd think even if this was the case he'd do it more to protect his own interests though. I know I would.
He's clearly well-thought of by Marinakis so for arguments sake let's say a 3 year extension has been offered on bigger wages, plus a bonus if we stay up, reach x round of FA Cup etc etc. So that's 4 years on the table with the year he still has included, with enough cash to set his family up for life I'd imagine. In a normally precarious job where a bad run of 5/6/7 games can get you sacked it just seems utterly bizarre from my view as an outsider why he wouldn't just sign the deal.
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
Steve is a deep thinker, who takes time to consider every possible option and likely outcome. You can see it in his work - he doesn't do everything that other managers do, the same as other managers do, just because they do it.
I suspect there are factors involved in his thinking that haven't even occurred to us, or been speculated on.
I suspect there are factors involved in his thinking that haven't even occurred to us, or been speculated on.
Redemption
Chief Eye Roller
There has to be a deal table for him to sign.
This started in June when SSN said he had agreed to a contract extension in principle while he was in Greece with Marinakis.
We don't know if this was true.
I doubt SSN made it up, so they were probably reporting what a source had told them.
It could be true or one side or the other could have put it out there for whatever reason; ultimately, hoping it would help it materialise.
Has any other media mentioned it since? I think Dave Jackson may have asked him about it after one of the pre-season games but I haven't checked.
This started in June when SSN said he had agreed to a contract extension in principle while he was in Greece with Marinakis.
We don't know if this was true.
I doubt SSN made it up, so they were probably reporting what a source had told them.
It could be true or one side or the other could have put it out there for whatever reason; ultimately, hoping it would help it materialise.
Has any other media mentioned it since? I think Dave Jackson may have asked him about it after one of the pre-season games but I haven't checked.
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congo_red_49
Ale Ape
I can't remember which of the interviews it was in, I think one of the post-match pre-season interviews - Colin Fray asked him about the new contract - and Steve gave a non-committal - "It'll get sorted when it gets sorted, but my priority is getting the players ready".
Redemption
Chief Eye Roller
as per above, here he is asked about the contract extension and is quite evasive about it
at the time, I think we were all thinking there was a deal and it was just waiting to be signed
if you listen back now and assume there was no deal, does it change his tone?
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
Marinakis is probably readying a contract for him...to take over at Oly.
Timothy Pope
I know that Nuno that I know that Nuno that I know
Maybe it’s one of those specialist tables like they have to have when buying football clubs?
Probably delayed due to all of the supply chain issues that are impacting the rest of the world?
I’m sure with Marinakis’ clout he could pull a few strings though to speed it up?