Stars on our shirt

[I'm Red Till Dead]

Fawaz said we were getting another.

Are you sure he wasn't just talking about upgrading the club's freezer rating?

 

[Strummer]

"Two Stars on the shirt
Kenny Burns still dreaming...
Twenty years of hurt,
Maurice Rowarth scheming!"

 

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

You're right mate. And remember, we didn't have them at all until the 25th anniversary of the first one, in 2004.

But Forest are a globally known name, thanks of course to our most successful manager, Mr. Clough.

I have travelled a lot, around the world, and most places I've gone to, when the talk turns to football, and the inevitable "who is your team?" question, well, everyone has heard of Nottingham Forest.

The reply is usually a smile, followed by "ah! Brian Clough!"

Unfortunately several younger fans I have spoken to in various parts of the world don't really have a clue who Nottingham Forest are these days. The systematic airbrushing of history any time before the Premiership and the Champions League means our name counts for less and less with every passing year.

You only have to look at the wankfest regarding Real Madrid's retention of the Champions League as if it was the first time a club had ever won back-to-back European Cup titles. Odd how when totting up the number of times such clubs have won the competition, they are suddenly more then happy to go back as far as 1955 though eh?

 

[Cortez the Killer]

At least one of the stars you listed was to denote said club having a chairman with a weirdly shaped head.

 

[West Beach Red]

I'd prefer to see some stars in our shirt............

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Agreed Jah. Naff. The badge always looked so much better without them.

Before they appeared Forest were still two-times European Cup winners. They are meaningless.

Think they started with either Adidas or Nike (probably Adidas) at one of the WCs to indicates how many times each had won the World Cup. Then it spread to other manufacturers and into club football to symbolise different things for different club whilst still ignored by most and lost what little meaning they had in the first place.

I have two cartons of milk in my fridge. They symbolise Forest's two European wins because I just said so. I can't ever remove them now. If I do, then I'll be forgetting what that wonderful team accomplished and it will somehow diminish their achievements. My brother has two cartons of milk in his fridge, they symbolise Gary McSwegan and Charlie Palmer's goals on Charlie Palmer Day (and he has an onion to remember Mark Draper's inexplicably re-taken free-kick after Mark Crossley had come and comfortably collected the first one). He cannot never remove them either.

Tin pot. Get rid.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

I like ours and any that symbolise winning stuff, not so keen on the "part of the design" crap.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

We already have a club badge (the best one by a landslide as it goes - https://liquidfootball.net/2016/08/01/nottingham-forests-badge-voted-best-in-english-football/) that symbolises those triumphs. It was chosen by Forest in the mid seventies to represent the football club and was worn with distinction on those nights.

Show that Forest tree to football fans around Europe and there would be plenty who wouldn't be able to name a single player at the club now, but could tell you that badge represents Nottingham Forest - two times European Cup winners. That is what the badge does already. Give or take a slight font change, it stays the same.

Show those two stars to football fans and they'll just see two generic stars. Maybe the odd one might be able to tell you they are the stars chosen by somebody in a sports kit manufacturer around the earlier 2000s to clutter up some already perfect football club badges to symbolise the number of times randomly a few football clubs, but not others, have won something even though what that something is isn't always obvious as it various from club to club. But most wouldn't even get that far.

 

[OLDMANRED]

Can we just get some stars IN our shirts please

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Silver star for European Cup

Gold for World Cup

Anything else is tin pot.

Was it Umbro that started with this trend in 05? Think it was the home shirt we got relegated to league one in. Silver stars on the side of the shirt. Snazzy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

earlier than I thought.

I'm pretty sure it was Adidas.


USA 94 - no stars

Euro 96 before Germany's third win

France 98 before their fourth win

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Adidas didn't give Argentina stars under the World Cup in 2006

Brazil and Nike also adopted them in 2006

Italy and Puma/Kappa/Lotto ignored it. Topo much style for this nonsense.

They appeared on Forest's badge after promotion back to div 2 in 2008. Around the time we captured Aaron Davies from Yeovil and it just felt right.

Nobody knows exactly when the onion in my brother's fridge came to symbolise that momentous day in Notts County's history. It is just generally accepted now that you're not a true Notts County fan if you insist it doesn't.

 

[Viktor]

Davies came a year earlier, we had two stars on our shirts (but not part of the badge) from 2005, the year we got relegated.


#Samuel4Mod #StrongAndStableModeration

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Thought the stars were a 25 year thing originally?

 

[Le Juif Rouge]

Can we just get some stars IN our shirts please

.....and some balls IN our shorts.

Like we once had with Tank, Kenny and Psycho.

 

[Ravi]

This one off design was classy. I'm not suggesting we should have it permanently, but I like the circle around the tree as sometimes the tree design can look a bit lost, especially with a 'loud' sponsor's logo like that 888 abomination last season.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

That 2005 shirt was hideous too. Looks like something from the Sports Direct reject bin. Were they supposed to be stars? Were they supposed to be stripes? They are neither. Was it supposed to carry on over the shoulder - it looks like an accident? Should it look like the Ku Klux Clan? Whatever they were attempting it failed and deserved relegation.
This guy's expression sums up that whole sorry mess.

 

[Strummer]

Thought the stars were a 25 year thing originally?

They were.

 

[valspoodle]

My word, you can tell that we're in the middle of the close season.

I'm in the middle of moving house and it's slightly more stressful than worrying about old shirts or stars.

Saying that, I'm a 'keep the stars' man.

 

[Wes' Organ]

My word, you can tell that we're in the middle of the close season.

I'm in the middle of moving house and it's slightly more stressful than worrying about old shirts or stars.

Saying that, I'm a 'keep the stars' man.

I'm in the same boat and I'd give both the stars to deal with someone competent.

 

[RRRREDUN]

NOT harping back to the past; we won more in a relatively few years than the VAST majority of clubs will win in their whole history. And I watched it all Direby fans. And I loved it.

Two stars on our badge begins a conversation. (At Pride Park for instance). Why've they got two stars daddy? Because they won the European Cup TWICE son. They were bloody marvelous. Wish our side had done something. Anything.

 

[Roonaldo]

Think they started with either Adidas or Nike (probably Adidas) at one of the WCs to indicates how many times each had won the World Cup. Then it spread to other manufacturers and into club football to symbolise different things for different club whilst still ignored by most and lost what little meaning they had in the first place.

Not so,

Juve started the whole thing off in the 50's, The Italians have an official system of a star being added for every 10 titles. I quite like the fact that Juve refused to add a third star after they had won their 30th title until one of the other clubs reached 20, so they could highlight their superiority.

Cocky Notts Clownty B Team bastards.

 

[Strummer]

Not so,

Juve started the whole thing off in the 50's, The Italians have an official system of a star being added for every 10 titles. I quite like the fact that Juve refused to add a third star after they had won their 30th title until one of the other clubs reached 20, so they could highlight their superiority.

Cocky Notts Clownty B Team bastards.

There's also the inconvenient point that they had some title wins struck off after the Calciopoli scandal.

 

[Flaggers]

Those stars have been earned.

There's about 90 league clubs would kill for one.

We've got 2.

We know why we've got them.

They know why we've got them.

Until we rank last in the list of "how many times did you win it", keep them.

 

[Barry]

Those stars have been earned.

There's about 90 league clubs would kill for one.

We've got 2.

We know why we've got them.

They know why we've got them.

Until we rank last in the list of "how many times did you win it", keep them.

But i thought only hartlepool could be jealous of us?

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

"They should be for European Cups and nothing else. That's the biggest prize. Everybody knows thats what they mean. Everybody else is just making the rules up as they go."

Real Madrid - 12 European Cup wins - 0 stars
Milan - 7 European Cup wins - 1 star
Bayern - 5 European Cup wins - 4 stars
Barcelona - 5 European Cup wins - 0 stars
Liverpool - 5 European Cup wins - 0 stars
Ajax - 4 European Cup wins - 3 stars
Inter _ 3 European Cup wins - 1 star
Man Utd - 3 European Cup wins - 0 stars
Juventus - 2 European Cup wins - 3 stars
Porto - 2 European Cup wins - 0 stars
Benfica - 2 European Cup wins - 3 stars
Forest - 2 European Cup wins - 2 stars

Fawaz should have added that third star. At least he could say he delivered on that promise. It is not as though anybody could have questioned it. Nigel Doughty gave us the first two in 2008 anyway.

Marinakis should add his face in the middle of the tree. Say it stands for league titles. Then promise to add a second Marinakis face.