Eddie Yates
Steve Chettle
From what I can see you've made 6 posts on this forum 5 of which reference the refereeing at the PO final
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Notcher
Stuart Pearce
I wasn't happy with the assistant referee constantly shoving and manhandling Reid around either. Reid was calmly stood there talking with his hands in his pockets and the lino starts laying hands on hin. I'd have something to say about that if I was the club or Reid. I hoke there's some footage of it
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WatnallRed
Geoff Thomas
Anyone want to update this….
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
There is. It was on MOTD.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I'd just like it if someone can provide us more than one "in favour" - as genuinely the only one I can think of this season is the Wissa potential penalty.
"These things even themselves out" - well, prove it, and if it can't be proven then perhaps the only way to address it is for Forest to be deliberately given a load of suspect decisions in our favour, you know, to even it out.
Henry Winter is arguably the most intelligent football correspondent in the UK - and has been for many years. He is always measured in his comments and can back it up with facts and knowledge.
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
And on the day IFAB meet to change/ amend/muck up the rules even more, we get officiating like that. So how did IFAB react?
Well, the goalie can hold the ball for two seconds longer (to add to the 30 seconds they get now whilst wandering around the penalty area), only the captain is allowed to speak to the ref(I thought that was already a rule in the Prem, which, of course, the Top 6 are allowed to forget) and if things get heated, the ref sends each team away to their penalty area to cool off!
And the sin bin trial will not take place, nor blue cards.
And what else were IFAB doing in the Lake District? Having a real jolly in the lovely scenery courtesy of FIFA.
What a waste of a meeting.
Well, the goalie can hold the ball for two seconds longer (to add to the 30 seconds they get now whilst wandering around the penalty area), only the captain is allowed to speak to the ref(I thought that was already a rule in the Prem, which, of course, the Top 6 are allowed to forget) and if things get heated, the ref sends each team away to their penalty area to cool off!
And the sin bin trial will not take place, nor blue cards.
And what else were IFAB doing in the Lake District? Having a real jolly in the lovely scenery courtesy of FIFA.
What a waste of a meeting.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
I mentioned somewhere else that a more vindictive VAR might have sent Felipe off on Weds. But of course it was safe to let us have that one since the game was already lost. To another sketchy VAR decision that went against us of course.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
The only thing the IFAB/PGMOL need to do is two things:
1) Record their meetings and live-stream the referee's mic's in game so that they can't hide their blatant corruption easily.
2) Address their talent management scheme so that they don't keep putting hopelessly incompetent toerags in charge of such important games.
Everything else is bluster. They need to fix their own f***ing house before trying to extend it.
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
The live streaming of the ref's mic on these decisions will never happen in football. The calm and considered chat of the cricket and rugger extra officials would not ever be matched. You only have to hear the aimless and frantic chatter between VAR and the onfield bloke on that decision which was released when Liverpool (strange it was them) were denied a goal, which emphasised that they don't really know what they are doing.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Not enough has been made of the players' contribution to the poor decisions.
Cheating is endemic: shirt pulling, diving, surrounding the ref: all are making refs' decisions more difficult.
Yesterday, there is no way Konate had a head injury.
You watch the replays: the player gets up and runs into his defensive position immediately the ref stops play.
If his head injury was real, he would be sat, dazed and confused.
Cheating is endemic: shirt pulling, diving, surrounding the ref: all are making refs' decisions more difficult.
Yesterday, there is no way Konate had a head injury.
You watch the replays: the player gets up and runs into his defensive position immediately the ref stops play.
If his head injury was real, he would be sat, dazed and confused.
YellowBelly Red
Viv Anderson
Head injury? Five minutes off the pitch for a concussion test.
Would cut the cheating out overnight!
Would cut the cheating out overnight!
trentside69
Viv Anderson
A few salty sheep and mardy huddersfield fans should feel at home anywhere on the bbc.
Are you going to join them?
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It's not a waste of time for those at the IFAB. They have to be constantly adjusting rules to justify their own existence and jobs. A self fulfilling job if ever there was.
trentside69
Viv Anderson
I thought there was a rule where the player should go off if there was possible concussion?
Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
I've just finished watching a playback of last night's MOTD, and whether it was sheer incompetence, willful ignorance, arrogance or blatent favouritism on Tierney's part (my words), Jermain Jenas was spot-on in that Tierney consciously chose to release the pressure on Liverpool at a point when they were looking increasingly vulnerable.
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Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
There is... if the player is dazed and confused.
The scouse cheat wasn't actually injured.
YellowBelly Red
Viv Anderson
Never used to be this bad when the referee was a headmaster from Whitby, or a retired dentist from Bromsgrove! Doing it for £50 and petrol money.
Now the refs think they are celebrities and bigger than the game.
Now that's Rob Jones and Paul Tierney that's no longer welcome at the City Ground. We can't have the best ref, David Coote, so maybe we'll run out of referees before the season end!
Now the refs think they are celebrities and bigger than the game.
Now that's Rob Jones and Paul Tierney that's no longer welcome at the City Ground. We can't have the best ref, David Coote, so maybe we'll run out of referees before the season end!
If they won’t do that VP - and I think you’re right here - then at least do what the Bundesliga does, and if there is a contentious decision given in a match, get the Referee out and interview him after the game to explain why he gave the decision he did.
That, at least, would force the officials to justify what they’ve done, as Germany‘s still-amateur officials have to do.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
"Because I was instructed by my employers to favour certain clubs on the sly in order to ensure the status quo."
Would be a hoot if a retiring referee in his last game fancied doing the right thing.
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
Along those lines, I was thinking as I made the bed this morning.
Does Howard Webb ever issue a regular bulletin after contentious refereeing decisions, say weekly, describing what diciplinary action, if any, has been taken against referees? Or does he, after having a chat at their weekly meeting in the local pub, just pull a proforma letter off the pile (like "apologies", "excuses" etc) and whiz it off to clubs with a grievance?
Does Howard Webb ever issue a regular bulletin after contentious refereeing decisions, say weekly, describing what diciplinary action, if any, has been taken against referees? Or does he, after having a chat at their weekly meeting in the local pub, just pull a proforma letter off the pile (like "apologies", "excuses" etc) and whiz it off to clubs with a grievance?
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
As my old man said, quite rightly imho, Teirney will be happy because after everything's done folk wil be talking about him. ****.
Indirectly related, but does this rule not apply to goalkeepers?
Sels went down in the penalty area following an aerial collision. I wasn’t quite clear if it was his head or his leg or both but he was attended to by the physios on the pitch for a couple of minutes. He was helped to his feet and then proceeded to take a free kick. He didn’t have to go off the pitch. :think:
Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
I'm more-than-happy to be corrected Richard, but I think Howard Webb issued a bit of a mealy mouthed apology to NFFC after another "elite" referee, Rob Jones, red-carded Boly for being on the end of a potential career-ending challenge from that Bournemouth player.
As we know, in 1984 Forest were cheated out of a UEFA Cup final place when Anderlecht bribed the referee. Highly questionable refereeing decisions in the 2nd leg gave Anderlecht a place in the final. Years later this was proven in a related criminal inquiry. People were sent to prison and Anderlecht were banned from European competition for a year following a period of procrastination by UEFA. The referee tragically died in a car crash in 1987.
For those who dismiss the current “conspiracy theorists” this is clear evidence that there has previously been high level corruption in football.
The Premier League are scared of the prospect of external regulation and are trying to make an example of Forest and Everton and imposing excessive penalties. It seems to have had an effect in curbing the transfer spending in January.
The top 6 cartel don’t want any ambitious clubs upsetting the apple cart. They must be livid that Villa are doing so well.
Forest are not helping themselves with some poor defending and poor finishing but, although not as obvious as the Anderlecht bribery, there are parties who want to be able to say that ultimately, a points deduction had no effect on the eventual relegation outcome.
Take a look at the video footage of the 1984 UEFA cup semi-final tie. The speed of the game may seem a little slower but the wrong refereeing decisions are the same as those that we still see every week, despite the “help” of VAR. Look at the penalty decision. Rashford at Old Trafford, perhaps?
For those who dismiss the current “conspiracy theorists” this is clear evidence that there has previously been high level corruption in football.
The Premier League are scared of the prospect of external regulation and are trying to make an example of Forest and Everton and imposing excessive penalties. It seems to have had an effect in curbing the transfer spending in January.
The top 6 cartel don’t want any ambitious clubs upsetting the apple cart. They must be livid that Villa are doing so well.
Forest are not helping themselves with some poor defending and poor finishing but, although not as obvious as the Anderlecht bribery, there are parties who want to be able to say that ultimately, a points deduction had no effect on the eventual relegation outcome.
Take a look at the video footage of the 1984 UEFA cup semi-final tie. The speed of the game may seem a little slower but the wrong refereeing decisions are the same as those that we still see every week, despite the “help” of VAR. Look at the penalty decision. Rashford at Old Trafford, perhaps?