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Ian Bowyer
Some folk will take what they are told by those in authority as gospel and never question it. The post office scandal hasn't dawned on a few folks yet.
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Snatchday 1: Nottingham Forest Vs the PGMOL
- Thread starter Alf-engelos Mindminackers
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but just seen on the Nottingham Forest Twitter….
Following yesterday’s match at Everton, NFFC issued a statement highlighting our concern at the perception of the PGMOL appointment of VAR for the game. This was an issue we raised with PGMOL prior to the fixture because of the fear of the side show that would ensue if anything went wrong with officiating in the game. That fear has materialised, as the correctness of three important decisions against the Club have been called into doubt.
This is not about individuals but rather how the integrity of the game is seen. We know match officials do not allow outside factors to influence their decision-making and that all referees are required to declare their ‘allegiances’ to PGMOL to avoid any perceived conflict or harm to the game’s reputation for integrity.
However, it is clear PGMOL must amend its rule on allegiances to account for contextual rivalries in the league table, not just local rivalries. This is currently not within the criteria but should be. Mere reliance on match officials to recuse themselves if contextual rivalries exist invites conjecture, as some have recused themselves where others have not.
NFFC stands by its request for greater transparency around PGMOL appointments to further protect the game’s reputation, as intended in PGMOL’s existing approach to allegiances.
Given the widespread and ongoing concerns, not merely of the fans, players and managers of this Club but of many others and the pundits too, over VAR decisions throughout this season any move which boosts confidence in the system should be properly considered.
Following yesterday’s match at Everton, NFFC issued a statement highlighting our concern at the perception of the PGMOL appointment of VAR for the game. This was an issue we raised with PGMOL prior to the fixture because of the fear of the side show that would ensue if anything went wrong with officiating in the game. That fear has materialised, as the correctness of three important decisions against the Club have been called into doubt.
This is not about individuals but rather how the integrity of the game is seen. We know match officials do not allow outside factors to influence their decision-making and that all referees are required to declare their ‘allegiances’ to PGMOL to avoid any perceived conflict or harm to the game’s reputation for integrity.
However, it is clear PGMOL must amend its rule on allegiances to account for contextual rivalries in the league table, not just local rivalries. This is currently not within the criteria but should be. Mere reliance on match officials to recuse themselves if contextual rivalries exist invites conjecture, as some have recused themselves where others have not.
NFFC stands by its request for greater transparency around PGMOL appointments to further protect the game’s reputation, as intended in PGMOL’s existing approach to allegiances.
Given the widespread and ongoing concerns, not merely of the fans, players and managers of this Club but of many others and the pundits too, over VAR decisions throughout this season any move which boosts confidence in the system should be properly considered.
donny
Grenville Morris
Its opened the can of worms, thats definitely something.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
It's on the other thread but the FA and EPL have announced they are investigating the club, NW and MC for the comments made...
The PL are saying that it's not allowed to "improperly question the integrity of match officials"... But that presumably means it is to do it properly...
The PL are saying that it's not allowed to "improperly question the integrity of match officials"... But that presumably means it is to do it properly...
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Yes, it seems that way. If there's a massive house of cards collectively with the FA, EFL and PGMOL it might be enough to set it burning down...
(No cooked wheat and yeast produce was harmed in the making of this drama scene)
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
But as I said... "improperly question"... If that tweet is improper than who knows what's allowed.
George Orwell is probably like "hey guys, hold my beer"
Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
Don't even joke about it mate.
If you don't laugh you'll cry.
Hector Salamanca
Youth Team
We are going to be properly f*cked over by the refs in our remaining games, to ensure we won't be in the PL next season and Sky etc will ignore Forest as no longer at the top table.
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Which could be great for the game itself in the long term.
Less so for us over the next 4 games though.
sammy the snake
Jack Armstrong
yet again
"Improperly question" that absolutely identifies the issue here...they believe they're untouchable. Forest have exposed and boxed them in very well.
I actually don't think Forest care about threats, Forest will take legal action based on evidence...that's the kicker for the EPL, a club that will finally expose them
"Improperly question" that absolutely identifies the issue here...they believe they're untouchable. Forest have exposed and boxed them in very well.
I actually don't think Forest care about threats, Forest will take legal action based on evidence...that's the kicker for the EPL, a club that will finally expose them
chaospunx
Viv Anderson
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
And here we go.
They'll find any excuse they can to stick it to us now. Folk there will be digging away at their end to find any minor discrepancy to "put us in our place"
Sigh.
Still, at least when we're relegated other clubs still in the Prem may benefit from the changes we set in motion.
Think we've taken on too many fights on too many fronts here tbh. Bob hope of us getting any points back from the appeal, that's for sure.
chaospunx
Viv Anderson
We should just go full European and have a big tifo of the forest tree being fisted by the PGMOL the FA and the EPL but as we're English we will just moan about it a bit 
@Alf-engelos Mindminackers
Fire up that ai app
@Alf-engelos Mindminackers
Fire up that ai app
I'm Red Till Dead
Stuart Pearce
theloner
Viv Anderson
Wonder if using Twitter to convey the message was a carefully planned masterstroke by the club. Tip of the hat if so.
Forest are going to court. There is no integrity left if there ever wasAnd here we go.
They'll find any excuse they can to stick it to us now. Folk there will be digging away at their end to find any minor discrepancy to "put us in our place"
Sigh.
Still, at least when we're relegated other clubs still in the Prem may benefit from the changes we set in motion.
Think we've taken on too many fights on too many fronts here tbh. Bob hope of us getting any points back from the appeal, that's for sure.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
If only those people had multi-billions behind them and made the rules
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
And courts are always just.
Just like any governing bodies.
You know, like the PGMOL
Sigh.
Still, at least we've got always the Tories.
chaospunx
Viv Anderson
Redemption
Chief Eye Roller
The idea that Forest are going to court is fanciful.