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Selling the crown jewels.

David Layne

First Team Squad
If selling the crown jewels put Forest in a financially stronger position and precipitates a change in ownership, then I'm all for it.
 

I'm Red Till Dead

Stuart Pearce
If selling the crown jewels put Forest in a financially stronger position and precipitates a change in ownership, then I'm all for it.

You are Kenny Burns and I claim my £5. If we let the good players go everytime they appear to show promise we will never reach the Premier League. Being in the Premier League or looking like we will get there is much more likely to make selling the club a better proposition.
 

tropix

Steve Chettle
This is your second thread in just over a week that relates to selling Assombalonga and Burke. What's the agenda?
 

SammyC

Banned
If selling the crown jewels put Forest in a financially stronger position and precipitates a change in ownership, then I'm all for it.

& replace Britt with who?

We don't currently have an alternative and every viable guaranteed alternative I can think of would probably cost us around the same money we'd get for Britt, so I really see the point in trading in the tried & tested for an alternative model that's tried & tested elsewhere, but we're not 100% would work for us.

The only way I'd look to sell Britt is if someone offered far in excess of his market value, which they won't or if we were well stocked in that department & had a manager I'd trust to farm us a cheaper alternative from the leagues below & I don't think our current management team has enough experience of our league & lower leagues yet to achieve that.

As for Burke, at present we'd probably get £8m-£12m max, & this time next year he'll be £12m-£18m, & if we managed to luck our way into the top league £25m-£30m.

There is just no earthly point in giving up one of our best talents at a cut price.

I'd see it as bad business if we sold either at the moment & it put us in a financially stronger position by holding on to them.

They are appreciable assets.
 

WillE

Geoff Thomas
No point getting rid of something which keeps people interested in the club.

Remove interest, lose people then -no club.
 

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Steve Chettle
Sell our crown jewels!!

So you want to sell your cock and balls!?

Perhaps you should have started this thread down in 'care in the community'.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion

Rich B

Viv Anderson
Keep

Get rid of Lansbury

Many moons ago when McGovern was the boo boy, I told someone who kept berating him to watch the space where McGovern would have been in the next game ( he was banned )and to his credit he came to me afterwards and said spot on. Massive holes where McGovern was always covering but were visible in his absence.

Same as Lansbury, he is probably our best midfielder and should be played in his best position at top of the diamond and attacking.
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
& replace Britt with who?

We don't currently have an alternative and every viable guaranteed alternative I can think of would probably cost us around the same money we'd get for Britt, so I really see the point in trading in the tried & tested for an alternative model that's tried & tested elsewhere, but we're not 100% would work for us.

The only way I'd look to sell Britt is if someone offered far in excess of his market value, which they won't or if we were well stocked in that department & had a manager I'd trust to farm us a cheaper alternative from the leagues below & I don't think our current management team has enough experience of our league & lower leagues yet to achieve that.

As for Burke, at present we'd probably get £8m-£12m max, & this time next year he'll be £12m-£18m, & if we managed to luck our way into the top league £25m-£30m.

There is just no earthly point in giving up one of our best talents at a cut price.

I'd see it as bad business if we sold either at the moment & it put us in a financially stronger position by holding on to them.

They are appreciable assets.

50 lines, Boy!: It should be WHOM, not WHO!
Burns is merely stating an unpopular truth in his column.
A career minded superstar of the future, such as Burke could well be, will if driven by the thought of loadsamoney, fame and glittering prizes surely do better in a big name club.
The trick for Forest is to milk the transfer fee for all its worth.
Oh - and try and get Burke on a season long loan back.
As for Britt - I think that his latest set-back with whatever injury he has suffered is going to stop the interest until January.
Potential bidders will probably want to see how serious the latest injury really is, and also see if Britt can play a string of games without getting injured again.
 

OLDMANRED

Jack Burkitt
Many moons ago when McGovern was the boo boy, I told someone who kept berating him to watch the space where McGovern would have been in the next game ( he was banned )and to his credit he came to me afterwards and said spot on. Massive holes where McGovern was always covering but were visible in his absence.

Same as Lansbury, he is probably our best midfielder and should be played in his best position at top of the diamond and attacking.

Comparing Lansbury to McGovern.?? Now I've heard it all
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
I'm happy with any decision taken by the owners (whoever that may be) provided it's done for the long term benefit of the club. I wanted the club to sell Antonio in order to exit the embargo - it was the most imperative thing at the time.

If selling Britt and Burke allows us to develop as a club (however that is achieved) then that's OK too, although both are appreciating assets (assuming Britt remains injury free) so we shouldn't rush into those decisions.
 

incapable hulk

Best served cold
Thing to remember is we are now an established lower end Championship. As much as I'd hate us to sell our best players, if bigger clubs come calling - there is only so much power we have now.

Whilst it may be gutting, this is why it's so important that we get the right people in behind the scenes to put a strong structure in place so we can rebound from losing players like Southampton do. That way we could continue to push forward and move ahead of many of the clubs who are circling our players like vultures.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Thing to remember is we are now an established lower end Championship. As much as I'd hate us to sell our best players, if bigger clubs come calling - there is only so much power we have now.

Whilst it may be gutting, this is why it's so important that we get the right people in behind the scenes to put a strong structure in place so we can rebound from losing players like Southampton do. That way we could continue to push forward and move ahead of many of the clubs who are circling our players like vultures.
And if we keep selling the players who could turn us in to a top end championship (or lower end premiership) club, we'll be destined to remain an established lower end championship club indefinitely.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
If we are going to sell, let's at least take a hefty slice of the premiership billions that are sloshing about in the upper levels.

Bidding can start at £30 million if they really want.

And it can keep going to nearer 50 until we bang the hammer.

Or they can all f*** off.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
And if we keep selling the players who could turn us in to a top end championship (or lower end premiership) club, we'll be destined to remain an established lower end championship club indefinitely.

Depends how we reinvest the cash Alex.

The reaction to the Antonio was roughly split between acceptance and anger, but I guess with hindsight the vast majority now accept that it needed to be done.

If we got £15m for Britt we shouldn't turn it down. It represents a 100% RoI and there will always be players to replace him, despite how much we like him.

For too long we've been ran badly, paying too much in wages and turning down bids only for the player to leave a year or two later for less or nothing. As someone else pointed out, Southampton sell their prized assets every year, but they reinvest the money and get better. We're not a Chelsea, United or City and we can't just ignore large transfer bids for our players.
 

Clifford

Viv Anderson
You can not easily buy players like Burke at championship level, the only way Forest get a player like him is from the academy or a rare great purchase like Antonio. We at least need to get some use out of him and potentially a promotion before we let him go.

That way he will score a lot of goals and do well at international level and his value will increase while we benefit from playing him. When he is worth a significant amount, £20+ million for example, sell him and buy 3 or 4 £5 million players of Assombalonga type standard. They in turn go up in value and all of a sudden we are a well run club.

Or we take £8 million now, which is a drop in the ocean with our losses, get no use out of the best youth player in recent history and wait 20 years for the next one. These "crown jewels" are a chance for us to change the pattern of the last 17 years and the whole ethos of the club. We shouldn't give that up for instant cash.
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
No issue with selling Britt if we replace well. Think we should wait until Jan at least (Next season ideally) so we can line up a proper replacement, and see Britt's value rise even further in the meantime.

Folk are worried about his injury, but he's young & quality, so his value won't drop regardless.

Hang on for a long as possible, & get scouting like buggery. Or maybe even consult/employ a certain Mr Pearce who seemed to have an eye for goalscorers.
 

OLDMANRED

Jack Burkitt
If we are going to sell, let's at least take a hefty slice of the premiership billions that are sloshing about in the upper levels.

Bidding can start at £30 million if they really want.

And it can keep going to nearer 50 until we bang the hammer.

Or they can all f*** off.

My answer to the McGovern boo boys was similar to youres. Yoa can't see his influence on the team till he doesn't play.
Lansbury. You can't see any influence when he does. In ANY position.
Re Brit and Burke. If this new Greek bloke is taking over and is serious he should send a big fk off to the suitors
 

Rich B

Viv Anderson
My answer to the McGovern boo boys was similar to youres. Yoa can't see his influence on the team till he doesn't play.
Lansbury. You can't see any influence when he does. In ANY position.
Re Brit and Burke. If this new Greek bloke is taking over and is serious he should send a big fk off to the suitors

See, a lot clearer when you actually read what I wrote ;-)
 

BryanRoy

Stuart Pearce
Currently our structures in place behind the scenes are young and developing. At this stage I don't think they could replace Britt or Burke.

Still got lots to prove.

The keeper situation is case and point. They didn't have options quick enough. I still worry with the type of keeper we going to replace De Vries with.
 
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