Saudi Arabian Sportswashing Shenanigans

Danga

Formerly JLingz
Money is all well and good but end of the day as a player which would you rather win, the Premier League, La Liga, Serie A - competitions that are a hundred plus years old and that have been won by some of the best teams and players ever to play the game? Or the Saudi Pro League which, well, hasn't?

It's the same reason the much-touted breakaway Formula One championship has never happened - history and kudos matter to those who compete in the sport

So however much money they throw at it personally I highly doubt their product will ever match the European leagues

And that's before you even get into their human rights record, gender equality / LGBT laws etc
Depends on what stage of your career you are at. I for one don't begrudge Benzema, Kante etc rinsing them for every $ they have.
 

Haych

John Robertson
Navas will probably join his mate Benzema over in Saudi.

I didn’t agree with them hosting the World Cup but I’m not going to pretend I wouldn’t accept 200m a year from them to kick a ball around.

They’re apparently willing to pay Messi 435M a year as well, after tax I think.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
N‘Golo Kante, who will be out-of-contract at Chelsea at the end of this month, has been apparently offered a £100m-a-season contract in Saudi Arabia.
Is Kante a muslim? I also think Muslim players would be attracted to go to Saudi anyway or the middle east in general.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
I don;' want the Saudis, or the Chinese, anywhere near my sport. They think money can buy anything, and that it gives them some sort of legitimacy.

Sport is not a plaything for the Billionaires!
You see what makes me piss myself is the owners who are most liked are the ones who treat football as a hobby as a passion. If you treat it well and make sure the club makes money and dosent go under a la American owners and Mike Ashley they are demonised.

As I said the problem in football is that money rules. So if money is how you gaion advantage than its a race to the top. Which is fine but there are only so many multi billionaires in the world. It has for example killed any competion in Europe now. When was the last a team outside Portugal, Holland, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, England won the thing.

The whole system is rotten to the core and globalisation has killed football. Unless we control globalisation your football teams sucsess will depend on globalisation and you be ruled by globalisation.

As a Forest fan I shouldnt have to hope a middle eastern nation buys us for us to compete for titles.
 

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
The son of the Emir of Qatar has submitted another bid to buy Man United.

Looking forward to seeing how the Premier League gets around their own rules that states can't own clubs this time.

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Ashley

Steve Chettle
The son of the Emir of Qatar has submitted another bid to buy Man United.

Looking forward to seeing how the Premier League gets around their own rules that states can't own clubs this time.

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If the Glazers accept the bid, you just know the Premier League will find a way (and much quicker than the Newcastle takeover too). It's Man United.
 

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
If the Glazers accept the bid, you just know the Premier League will find a way (and much quicker than the Newcastle takeover too). It's Man United.
If one of these owners with unlimited wealth gets hold of one of Man United, Liverpool, Real or Barcelona, competition will be f**ked.

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PynchonForest

John Robertson
Anyone who is offering Kante (who, it must be stated, is brilliant when fit) 100 million quids after a season he barely played in---these people are complete idiots. I am certain Lingard will make a boatload there shortly.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
I count EM as a proper and passionate football fan. Not someone trying to buy their way to the top, with dodgy money.
As obviously demonstrated by the fact he bought us!

What will be in store when EM's mate, the multi-billionaire South Korean ship-building-magnate eventually comes onboard?
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
The son of the Emir of Qatar has submitted another bid to buy Man United.

Looking forward to seeing how the Premier League gets around their own rules that states can't own clubs this time.

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If the Glazers accept the bid, you just know the Premier League will find a way (and much quicker than the Newcastle takeover too). It's Man United.

It's easy for the PL to do this.

PIF (who are, according to the Premier League, "NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT...NO...NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO...They promised us they weren't so we took it at face value...")...

...have already gone on Oath in the US Courts to state that they ARE the Saudi Government...

(while they lost the case, their admission into evidence stands)

So all the PL has to do is cite precedent: "We did f*** all when PIF took over Newcastle, so why should we do anything about Qatar owning ManU. It'd be unfair to meddle since we accepted the PIF promise like little lambs".

Simple, really.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
If one of these owners with unlimited wealth gets hold of one of Man United, Liverpool, Real or Barcelona, competition will be f**ked.

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This would seem to suggest that it isn't already?!

It's why I want ManCity to lose on Saturday.
I don't trust the PL/UEFA to do anything about City, so them NOT HAVING that trophy will be easier to deal with than them reckoning to have won it but having it taken off them.
 

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
This would seem to suggest that it isn't already?!

It's why I want ManCity to lose on Saturday.
I don't trust the PL/UEFA to do anything about City, so them NOT HAVING that trophy will be easier to deal with than them reckoning to have won it but having it taken off them.
I'm not sure I elaborated my thought fully. United, Liverpool, Barca and Real are another level of "elite" club that the likes of Man City and PSG can't reach despite their money. If the wealth that City have gets in to one of those clubs then they can offer both the draw of the money as well as the prestige of the club.

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incapable hulk

Best served cold
I hate that football clubs in this country are able to be run be bought by nations, hedge funds and all those things. You look at the people who bought Chelsea and it wasn’t because they loved the club or even the sport, it was as an investment with the aim of selling it on in a few years for a profit.

It sounds naive, given what the premier league has done to football in country, but it wouldn’t half be nice to put the game into the hands of people who genuinely care about it.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
I hate that football clubs in this country are able to be run be bought by nations, hedge funds and all those things. You look at the people who bought Chelsea and it wasn’t because they loved the club or even the sport, it was as an investment with the aim of selling it on in a few years for a profit.

It sounds naive, given what the premier league has done to football in country, but it wouldn’t half be nice to put the game into the hands of people who genuinely care about it.
As I have posted more than once before; the „50+1“ model of fan ownership in German football is one of the reasons I love it so much.

Effectively, me and 80.000 others „own“ a controlling interest in my local side and that is absolutely fine by me.
 

Phooey

Jack Burkitt
...and well done for not being relegated this season...

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incapable hulk

Best served cold
As I have posted more than once before; the „50+1“ model of fan ownership in German football is one of the reasons I love it so much.

Effectively, me and 80.000 others „own“ a controlling interest in my local side and that is absolutely fine by me.

That is how it should be. It will never happen here and it's why things like the Super League will keep popping up. Because those owners don't care about the clubs or the game and few of them have any connection with it. It's just a vehicle for profit.

Football needs a big change but then people have been saying that for years.

Of teams in the Premier League, the jewel in the crown of British sport - only Spurs, West Ham, Brentford, Brighton and I assume probably Luton are owned by fans. The rest are all petro-states, hedge funds or foreign businessmen (including us).
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
I used to think it was but I certainly don't think the 50+1 model is the answer anymore.

For me it creates an impenetrable hierarchy and now the Germany league is lagging behind even the Italian & Spanish leagues because the competition is just non existent and will probably continue falling behind.

It's a utopian idea but I am not sure in practice it is. A bit like communism! There are better ways of giving fans more control IMO if that's the idea.
 

bono1975

Viv Anderson
Not sure if this been posted anywhere but article in The Athletic today says Grabban and a few other players have been to court to get wages, signing on fees and bonus.

The veteran saw his contract terminated by Al Ahli within three months of joining on a one-year deal last August. Grabban said he did not receive $400,000 — $200,000 as a signing-on fee when joining last August and another $200,000 for two months of unpaid wages — and when formally requesting payment he was informed of his release a fortnight later.


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sammy the snake

Jack Armstrong
Manure sale will be ratified and sports washing continues. The issue the EPL has is that it won’t risk its global appeal and the value of its equity. It’s the same reason why Man City won’t be retrospectively punished for the their financial tricks.

It’s an agenda to manufacture a super league with or without approval from EPL members. Government have mitigated all responsibility to the FA and the FA isn’t capable
 

Eddie Yates

Steve Chettle
Manure sale will be ratified and sports washing continues. The issue the EPL has is that it won’t risk its global appeal and the value of its equity. It’s the same reason why Man City won’t be retrospectively punished for the their financial tricks.

It’s an agenda to manufacture a super league with or without approval from EPL members. Government have mitigated all responsibility to the FA and the FA isn’t capable
Manure?
 
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