Nuno Herlander Simões Espírito Santo

[Strummer]

He only managed us for 1 game, he's only ever managed 1 game of football FFS

100% win record though.

 

[Erik]

100% win record though.

And he's never lost to Fulham either.

Got to be a positive.

 

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

I feel the same way about Nuno as I would about a slightly out of date jar of potted beef: utter indifference.

 

[Rockabilly]

Only one man can save us now!







@Bonfy177

 

[trentendnz]

I'm done with Nuno, he has the same rabbit caught in the headlights look as Cooper had at the end.
Shite subs, shite tactics and f*** all fire in the belly. Barely an upgrade on his predecessor, rather like the players.
Not advocating a change, just finding little reason to back the guy.

 

[Red Dog in a Forest]

This is interesting, Toffolo is rated by many. is it a coincidence? He definitely doesn't have the power to move us up the field as the other two do. He also doesn't prevent crosses from coming in. Hopefully the return of the Aina and Tavares will see us pick up more points.

Toffolo is a squad player (imo), I don’t think he should be a starter. Having him around has proven it’s worth, without him we’d be stuck with Niakhate at LB!

The last time Tavares played was West Ham. Since then we’ve scored 3 and conceded 8 (if you include the Man United game).

In the games where either Aina or Tavares have started (since Nuno came in):

Newcastle - W3-1 - Aina starts / Tavares replaces.
Man U - W2-1 - Aina starts / Toffolo comes on at 87 minutes (when it’s already 2-1).
Brentford - L3-2 - Tavares plays the full game.
Bournemouth - D1-1 - Tavares plays the 90.
Newcastle - L3-2 - Tavares plays the 90.
West Ham - W2-0 - Tavares plays the 90.

10 points in six PL games vs one draw in seven (if you include Man U in the cup) since they haven’t been available.

We also scored 12 and conceded 9 in those six games.

Aina and / or Tavares give the opposition something to worry about. Without them we are unable to counter as fast, score as frequently and we invite teams onto us.

Not a slight on Toffolo, but could our problems be as simple as Toffolo not fitting Nuno’s preferred system? It’s a team game of course and this could all be coincidence, but the stats are very compelling.

 

[PynchonForest]

I'm done with Nuno, he has the same rabbit caught in the headlights look as Cooper had at the end.
Shite subs, shite tactics and f*** all fire in the belly. Barely an upgrade on his predecessor, rather like the players.
Not advocating a change, just finding little reason to back the guy.

He seems, to me, a man of very limited ideas. Far too conservative for my taste. I've turned on him after today. Unless something magical happens, he won't be here next season. Waits too long to make sub when we are behind, makes teh wrong subs when we winning or tied. He's yet another mistake in a long line of mistake appointments the club have made over the years.

 

[Red Dog in a Forest]

I think if I got into a fight with some of you lot, I’d knock myself out first, to save the deep embarrassment of going down without a fight.

We were largely shit for 23 years, and yet, rather than look at the positives (or stats…which could be just that of course) of what we have now, you’d rather pin your hopes on the past and accept defeat, wallowing in the negativity it brings.

In one sentence it’s Luton have more fight than us, and yet we just got a point there and we should be rolling them over. Which one is it?!

We were two goal line clearances from being 3-0 up ffs!!

Anyone would think the seasons ended already.

 

[andyjm1983]

Get him out, aside from the new manager bounce, he's been f***ing dreadful.

Marinakis won't, but I think apologising to Steve and asking him to return would actually spark a revival in the club to stay in the league. I think more than anything, we feel very fragmented as a club and he's still got enough currency with our fans for them to rally behind him but also, importantly he knows the squad. It feels like a hail mary, but there's only one way things are going.

That said, it's very unlikely and even if it isn't Steve, at this point, we might as well give whoever is going to be next a head start on next season. I'm fed up with Nunoball, the fact we still can't defend a f***ing set piece is criminal.

Seriously, Nunos football is identical to coopers. I'm sure we're all fed up with boring low block tactics and inviting pressure on to us. Give us a manager who promotes attacking football.

 

[andyjm1983]

I think if I got into a fight with some of you lot, I’d knock myself out first, to save the deep embarrassment of going down without a fight.

We were largely shit for 23 years, and yet, rather than look at the positives (or stats…which could be just that of course) of what we have now, you’d rather pin your hopes on the past and accept defeat, wallowing in the negativity it brings.

In one sentence it’s Luton have more fight than us, and yet we just got a point there and we should be rolling them over. Which one is it?!

We were two goal line clearances from being 3-0 up ffs!!

Anyone would think the seasons ended already.

Yeah we had a few close chances but the football was dire again against a relegation team ravaged with injuries.

 

[BryanRoy22]

I'm done with Nuno, he has the same rabbit caught in the headlights look as Cooper had at the end.
Shite subs, shite tactics and f*** all fire in the belly. Barely an upgrade on his predecessor, rather like the players.
Not advocating a change, just finding little reason to back the guy.

It's all rinse and repeat at this moment.

It doesn't matter who's putting the clothes in the washing machine, the outcome is the same. It keeps leaking, the drum continues to rattle loudly and the appliance cannot achieve the desired result.

That suggests the problem lies deeper. More with the person who owns the house.

 

[Irish Wolf]

For a while there we were playing some beautiful attacking football, even if the results didn't always go our way. It gave us hope in our potential. But that seems to have faded away.

Is it because it's the business end of the season and we badly need points (not forgetting our potential points' deduction hanging over us) and the idea is not to lose (even that's not always working out)?

It just seems like we're playing with a completely different team with a different philosophy recently. If a team could be bi-polar we would be the encapsulation of it. I'm worried that fear/panic is setting in.

At this stage I don't care about expansive football, only results. And I don't care how they are achieved. And maybe that's how Nuno/the staff/players see it too.

 

[isaacs]

Seriously, Nunos football is identical to coopers. I'm sure we're all fed up with boring low block tactics and inviting pressure on to us. Give us a manager who promotes attacking football.

It was an opinion i held back in the summer, September through to December, and from December until now. We do not have the quality nor depth to play an expansive attacking game.

Elanga, CHO and a makeshift Origi (who to be fair has done better than expected). Throw in a box to box midfielder in Dominguez playing left wing not once, but on 4/5 occasions and this backs my view. Also add a pinch of our players being complete biscuits in the attacking half.

We survived last year by being a counter attacking team, having space to run into and being one of the most clinical teams in the league with the few opportunities we created. We could defend set pieces (for the most part). Cohesive and everyone knew the gameplan.

But it wasnt enough. The sentiment in the summer changed, more possession, 4-2-3-1 attack. After one season in the Premier League in 24 years.

One.

From the twats on twitter all the way up to the Big Man and his son in Coopers ear. 4-2-3-1. Nicer football. Better. Demand it!

The result? We have no identity. As a team and as a fanbase. A manager "searching for solutions, whilst always competing in every area of the pitch" while he watches yet another set piece goal float in and ignoring the need for a set piece coach. Fanbase silent and mentally wrecked as a result of the inevitable collapse in most games we're watching. From oozes football soul to questioning what and who we are.

Points deduction on Monday.

The Nottingham Forest party bus is BACK

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

I'd like to see Nanu-Nanu smile once in a while.

Wot meks him laff? Oppun Grave??

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I'm done with Nuno, he has the same rabbit caught in the headlights look as Cooper had at the end.
Shite subs, shite tactics and f*** all fire in the belly. Barely an upgrade on his predecessor, rather like the players.
Not advocating a change, just finding little reason to back the guy.

Whoever is here will struggle whilst those above him carry on like they did in the Champ.

That said, Nuno's one of the most puzzling managers we've had here for me. I can see his methods working in different situations, but we're not currently in those. Thus he keeps making decisions which seem bizarre when put into context.

 

[andyjm1983]

It was an opinion i held back in the summer, September through to December, and from December until now. We do not have the quality nor depth to play an expansive attacking game.

Elanga, CHO and a makeshift Origi (who to be fair has done better than expected). Throw in a box to box midfielder in Dominguez playing left wing not once, but on 4/5 occasions and this backs my view. Also add a pinch of our players being complete biscuits in the attacking half.

We survived last year by being a counter attacking team, having space to run into and being one of the most clinical teams in the league with the few opportunities we created. We could defend set pieces (for the most part). Cohesive and everyone knew the gameplan.

But it wasnt enough. The sentiment in the summer changed, more possession, 4-2-3-1 attack. After one season in the Premier League in 24 years.

One.

From the twats on twitter all the way up to the Big Man and his son in Coopers ear. 4-2-3-1. Nicer football. Better. Demand it!

The result? We have no identity. As a team and as a fanbase. A manager "searching for solutions, whilst always competing in every area of the pitch" while he watches yet another set piece goal float in and ignoring the need for a set piece coach. Fanbase silent and mentally wrecked as a result of the inevitable collapse in most games we're watching. From oozes football soul to questioning what and who we are.

Points deduction on Monday.

The Nottingham Forest party bus is BACK

But there are games where we should be attacking more!! The players we have need to be trusted more, I wouldn't say we have the worst team in the Premier league

 

[dr_horse]

"We did enough to win the game".

I f***ing hate comments like that.

No we didn't Nuno, we did enough to draw it.

Not good enough again.

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[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

A focus on Nuno in today's Athletic article...

https://theathletic.com/5346767/2024/03/17/nottingham-forest-mood-nuno-cooper/

Apparently boos again from a vocal minority at full time.

 

[valspoodle]

I sometimes type out a comment, then discard it. Or think a thought and do nothing with it.

So I forget if I said it earlier, but I will be surprised if Nuno is with us next season. Done nothing so far to energise the team and, I feel, nothing to excite the owner.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

Football is better under Nuno even in the defeats, but these mistakes (almost all set piece related) are hurting us big time. Only one defeat has been by more than a goal.

Nuno has become more circumspect recently, we are only conceding a goal a game to the detriment of offensive threat.

I think people have forgotten how bad it was under Cooper near the end. Team couldn't pass water.

We are in most games, hoping the tide will turn and we'll get that win or 2 soon.

Improvement on pieces at both ends has got to be the order of the day in this international break.

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[magicwoand]

We’ll win five games in the run in, you heard it here first.

 

[Hector Salamanca]

We’ll win five games in the run in, you heard it here first.

On the sauce already?

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[magicwoand]

On the sauce already?

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Nope, if you look at run in, there’s only Tottenham away and Man City at home, that we should be concerned about. Our luck will change, Elanga learns how to score again, the law of averages sees our set piece stats to improve slightly, we start to get fair decisions from referees and we ban Gibbs-white from taking corners (last one might be a pirate dream)

 

[Bob Fossil]

Had about 6 midfielders & no strikers on towards the end of the game when we should have been looking to kill them off.

Thinks Divock Origi is a better bet than CHO or Gio Reyna.

God knows what he's doing to address the set-piece situation. Both offensively & defensively.

I should add - some of these issues were also levelled at Cooper & i'm hungover & miserable.

 

['mist rollin in']

Would you have sacked Cooper if someone had told you that his replacement would have you sitting in 17th, only 3 points above the team in 18th?

Difficult question to answer, there's no doubt Cooper was struggling, but a lot of the reasoning behind the struggle was due to 'off' field problems. The fact that Nuno is encountering the exact same problems is troubling and Nuno has the advantage of at least having a semi-decent goalkeeper.

I'd read that there was a lot of anger in the stands yesterday, whilst I don't agree with any abuse of players, I can understand the frustration from the fans. Some fans thought this group of players were capable of pushing towards a comfortable mid-table finish, some fans thought Cooper was clueless and it was all down to him, some fans pinned all the blame on Worrall.

If we don't beat Crystal Palace at home (arguably the easiest home game we have left), the fan frustration is going to boil over - can you blame them.