New punishment for gobbing off

[GOBIAS]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36844570

About time. I hope it's properly enforced and we can fix the game of this intimidation. Lots of top managers use it as a tactic to get an advantage but will soon instruct otherwise when there is no advantage in doing so.

 

[Account Deleted]

Brian Clough will be looking down from on high wondering why it has taken so long to happen.

Referees have got a hard enough job as it is, without having to put up with infantile players and their pathetic abuse of officials.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Believe it when it happens.

 

[Account Deleted]

That's the spirit, Francis

 

[adam09]

About time they did something. I've long said they need to get on top of a lot of things like this. The lack of application of a number of laws has led to a decline in both behaviour and in turn, the amount of poor decisions, many being critical. However, I do think a sin bin should be trialed for this, 5 minutes off for swearing or whatever would be sufficient? Depending on the seriousness etc. Obviously pushing an official would be a red card still.

Hopefully this leads the way, the players will become more like rugby players then the refs can concentrate on the proper stuff.

I hope they clamp down on the shirt pulling and holding at set pieces too and players obviously faking injuries or being overly theatrical... a bit like during the Euros many of the refs weren't having it and the officiating was the best I've seen for a long time.

 

[george lyall]

Another initiative! Dont get me wrong its the right thing todo but the whole refereeing system has let this creep in lkie so many other things that have come to be deemed "just a part of the game" Referees have got the power to stamp this intimidation and bullying out but have systematically failed to do anything about it for far too long

 

[Barry]

Brian Clough will be looking down from on high wondering why it has taken so long to happen.

His own offspring could do with taking note

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Doesn't need to. I'm sure Nigel Clough already knows he has yet to do enough over the course of his career to earn the respect of Forest supporters.

 

[Lefkasman]

Linekars comment summed up what I've been thinking for years.
As thick as they are players would soon learn.

 

[Alpha Fail]

STOP HASSLING OFFICIALS! cries the FA and introduces firm guidelines for disciplinary action against players who do so, whilst simultaneously appointing the self-styled scourge of linesmen as manager of the national team.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Brilliantly done. In two acts they've ridden the English game of most the harassment

 

[JordanForest]

I thought gobbing off at refs was already punishable with a card? Like foul throws, diving, 6 second rule, pushing in the box etc its pointless having rules if the referees never actually enforce them!

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[Lefkasman]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...es-that-drive-us-mad-and-must-be-changed.html

 

[george lyall]

The first time I became aware of this in the game was in our 77/78 league winning year, carried out by Souness who was never more than 2 paces from the ref when not in posession giving the ref a diatribe of garbage and whingeing. It is a piss poor state of affairs that it still pevails in another century!

 

[GOBIAS]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...es-that-drive-us-mad-and-must-be-changed.html

The different grade of foul does my head in. Waving fouls away vigorously because it's happened in the penalty area and then the most innocuous fouls given in other areas or even in the penalty area but against attackers.

One thing that does my head in is defenders playing for easy fouls and refs giving it every time. Defender runs the ball in to a corner but gets put under any sort of pressure so stumbles a bit and gets foul. 99% of the time. If a similar type of foul was given as a penalty there would be uproar. But if all fouls are the same then why. It?

 

[Alexandro Garibaldi]

why. It?

It's because football's rules were written about 150 years ago and haven't really been updated much since. As the Telegraph article alludes to, back then if you had the ball in the box you were far more likely to get the chance to shoot (because of the pace of the game, formations, defending technique, etc). That meant that most fouls in the area were denying a goalscoring opportunity, which hasn't been the case for decades.

Other team sports, like rugby and hockey, which have been more open to evolution over time, now have a middle-ground option that allows an attacking team to retain their offensive advantage after a foul. If a 'penalty corner' was available to referees instead of a penalty kick, they would give a lot more fouls in the box.

 

[GOBIAS]

It's because football's rules were written about 150 years ago and haven't really been updated much since. As the Telegraph article alludes to, back then if you had the ball in the box you were far more likely to get the chance to shoot (because of the pace of the game, formations, defending technique, etc). That meant that most fouls in the area were denying a goalscoring opportunity, which hasn't been the case for decades.

Other team sports, like rugby and hockey, which have been more open to evolution over time, now have a middle-ground option that allows an attacking team to retain their offensive advantage after a foul. If a 'penalty corner' was available to referees instead of a penalty kick, they would give a lot more fouls in the box.

I don't like the idea of the penalty corner in football. Over the last 20 years a Forest corner is just an opportunity for the opposition to mount a counter attack whereas an opposition corner guarantees them a free header on target and gives them a 50 /50 chance of a goal. It seems unfair on us as a club.

 

[Alexandro Garibaldi]

I don't like the idea of the penalty corner in football. Over the last 20 years a Forest corner is just an opportunity for the opposition to mount a counter attack whereas an opposition corner guarantees them a free header on target and gives them a 50 /50 chance of a goal. It seems unfair on us as a club.

We could take a penalty aimless hoof up the field instead.

 

[GOBIAS]

We could take a penalty aimless hoof up the field instead.

To a 5ft 8 inch striker who can't control the ball? Seems fair.

 

[GOBIAS]

The different grade of foul does my head in. Waving fouls away vigorously because it's happened in the penalty area and then the most innocuous fouls given in other areas or even in the penalty area but against attackers.

One thing that does my head in is defenders playing for easy fouls and refs giving it every time. Defender runs the ball in to a corner but gets put under any sort of pressure so stumbles a bit and gets foul. 99% of the time. If a similar type of foul was given as a penalty there would be uproar. But if all fouls are the same then why. It?

And as if to prove my rant. In the first match I watch today and the softest foul is given against Austin after a defender dropped in the box. Yet a Burnley player is sythed down in the area for a definite penalty and Mike dean has to use the hysterical wave it away refs use when they know it's a foul but don't want to cause controversy and give a penalty to the away team.