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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Any Time Now said:
Some people seem to be working on the assumption that the add on bonuses are a pool of money that doesn't matter, in this situation its far more likely that the bonus clauses will benefit the selling club more than us so it's incredibly unlikely that it's tied to unrealistic things like 'top 6 finish = release x amount'

A lot of it will be based on things like appearances and it's more likely a large amount of the add ons will be triggered sooner rather than later. The only 'long term' clause I can see Wolves being prepared to sit on would be something like a sizable sell on clause

If he had less time on his contract it would be a different story, but as things stand Wolves are in a position to dictate negotiations. They've made it pretty clear that the only way anyone gets hold of him this window is by submitting a ridiculous package thats impossible for them
to turn down.

The lack of any other interest should say a lot, MGW is a great talent but there's still a line that has to be drawn. I don't think now is the right moment for us to be firing off on this type of move at >£40m regardless of how it's structured
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I don't think anyone can reasonably predict what the add-ons are and the likelihood of them being realised.

If they really benefitted the selling club then I suspect Wolves might have said yes though, given that £42m is a shit tonne of money.
 
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Harry1982

Grenville Morris
MaxiRobriguez said:
I don't think anyone can reasonably predict what the add-ons are and the likelihood of them being realised.

If they really benefitted the selling club then I suspect Wolves might have said yes though, given that £42m is a shit tonne of money.
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You can't but I'd assume that the vast majority were realistic achievable add ons. The ones that were not achievable I'd assume would not have a a high value attached. You gotta assume if its 42mill with add ons that we will end up paying 40 mill unless he turns out to be utter dog shit for us.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Everyone has their own limits. If a deal gets done I think the numbers that come out will be much less than reported now.

But at the end of the day - it should surely come down to: Do you trust Cooper & the recruitment teams judgement?

I am not sure what they have done to gain a single persons mistrust.
 
Calvin Plummer

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
Rzar said:
Everyone has their own limits. If a deal gets done I think the numbers that come out will be much less than reported now.

But at the end of the day - it should surely come down to: Do you trust Cooper & the recruitment teams judgement?

I am not sure what they have done to gain a single persons mistrust.
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I'm not sure it's mistrust, more scepticism that he's worth the mooted prices or necessarily worth the finite resources of our recruitment team for such a prolonged period.

I'd also understand some nervousness about not wanting to do a QPR and end up relegated without a pot to piss in.

Cooper and Co are all learning on the job too, it's not unreasonable to expect mistakes.
 
Any Time Now

Any Time Now

Grenville Morris
Rzar said:
Everyone has their own limits. If a deal gets done I think the numbers that come out will be much less than reported now.

But at the end of the day - it should surely come down to: Do you trust Cooper & the recruitment teams judgement?

I am not sure what they have done to gain a single persons mistrust.
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My concern is certainly nothing to do with DM and the recruitment team who have done an excellent job so far, if anything my concern is that this seems to be quite the opposite approach to all the other smart business we've done this summer. Especially considering the way EM has personally intervened and taken over the negotiations of this specific move

Is it a target that Dane, our analysts and recruitment team have identified and are targeting or is it EM side stepping our otherwise shrewd business model and taking things into his own hands to try and repay Cooper with his key man?

Like I mentioned before, if it is EM feeling he owes Cooper then it's of course a nice gesture and you can't knock the man for his backing, but we have a business model for a reason and i'd hope we aren't bypassing it to facilitate a move driven by emotion
 
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Berkshire Red

Jack Armstrong
Any Time Now said:
My concern is certainly nothing to do with DM and the recruitment team who have done an excellent job so far, if anything my concern is that this seems to be quite the opposite approach to all the other smart business we've done this summer. Especially considering the way EM has personally intervened and taken over the negotiations of this specific move

Is it a target that Dane, our analysts and recruitment team have identified and are targeting or is it EM side stepping our otherwise shrewd business model and taking things into his own hands to try and repay Cooper with his key man?

Like I mentioned before, if it is EM feeling he owes Cooper then it's of course a nice gesture and you can't knock the man for his backing, but we have a business model for a reason and i'd hope we aren't bypassing it to facilitate a move driven by emotion
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Why would it be?

Why do folk search for hidden meanings, underhand dealings and expose problems which aren't necessarily there?
 
mister

mister

First Team Squad
Rzar said:
Everyone has their own limits. If a deal gets done I think the numbers that come out will be much less than reported now.

But at the end of the day - it should surely come down to: Do you trust Cooper & the recruitment teams judgement?

I am not sure what they have done to gain a single persons mistrust.
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Of course, complete trust.

...unless I haven't heard of the player or his current club's fans say he isn't very good or he plays in a league I think is weak or journalists start mentioning much bigger numbers than I'm used to seeing in the Championship or I don't see how he fits in the first 11 or I think we've already got enough squad depth in that position or he's too old to develop or he's too young to be ready at this level. Then I might have some doubts but apart from that, complete trust.
 
Any Time Now

Any Time Now

Grenville Morris
Berkshire Red said:
Why would it be?

Why do folk search for hidden meanings, underhand dealings and expose problems which aren't necessarily there?
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I'm not claiming that is what's happening, just pointing out that this move (in terms of cost/player and the fact EM put his self in charge of the negotiations) is quite a different approach to other business we've been involved in this summer

I don't think there's any harm in asking questions or speculating what could be the driving factors behind that. If nothing more it prompts discussion which with all respect seems appropriate for a forum
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Any Time Now said:
I'm not claiming that is what's happening, just pointing out that this move (in terms of cost/player and the fact EM put his self in charge of the negotiations) is quite a different approach to other business we've been involved in this summer

I don't think there's any harm in asking questions or speculating what could be the driving factors behind that. If nothing more it prompts discussion which with all respect seems appropriate for a forum
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Has he?

What Steve Madeley's article said was "Forest have now had at least two offers rejected by Wolves, with the latest coming after Marinakis intervened to hold discussions with senior counterparts at Molineux.".

We don't know that he continued to negotiate after the knock back or even that his discussions amounted to negotiations.
 
football post

football post

I'm still here Crewton
He could always put in a transfer request and write off a few quid 😄
 
Morpeth

Morpeth

John Robertson
Col said:
More chance of Wes Morgan, Robin Gibb and Barry White
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I bet you had Robin Gibb in your head for ages, couldn’t think of an actual Gibbs, googled it, and still couldn’t find anyone famous enough other than a fictional character from NCIS or another footballer to replace him.

Should have just said Bee Gees 😂

I may be overthinking it.
 
Souvik

Souvik

First Team Squad
Morpeth_Edgar said:
I bet you had Robin Gibb in your head for ages, couldn’t think of an actual Gibbs, googled it, and still couldn’t find anyone famous enough other than a fictional character from NCIS or another footballer to replace him.

Should have just said Bee Gees 😂

I may be overthinking it.
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Herschelle Gibbs!
 
Col

Col

Has he singed yet?
Morpeth_Edgar said:
I bet you had Robin Gibb in your head for ages, couldn’t think of an actual Gibbs, googled it, and still couldn’t find anyone famous enough other than a fictional character from NCIS or another footballer to replace him.

Should have just said Bee Gees

I may be overthinking it.
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You were definitely overthinking it. Was going to put Barry Gibb but already had Barry White so didn't want to over-Barry things.
 
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